Attention: progressives/actual socialists/wokies

The establishment hates them as much as it does Trump.
Its all about getting back to the status quo.
The gentry didnt spend that money building the cash cow to watch it go away.
 
Darth Omar said:
Sen. Bernie Sanders expressed disappointment Thursday that former Republicans got more speaking time at the Democratic National Convention than progressives voices.

"I think the future of our country is with the progressive movement and I would have liked to have seen more progressives have a chance to get out there and to talk about their vision of the future of America," Sanders told Washington Post Live of the DNC choice to highlight Republicans like John Kasich and Colin Powell over progressives like the freshman squad.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/be...nvention-speech.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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It’s already started—you’re being kicked to the curb.

Bernie has a point: what the actual frick? Why should 2 Republicans crowd out AOC at the convention? Makes no sense. I can see trotting out one Never Trumper because—well I don’t know why really. What does it accomplish? Trump supporters could care less about Kasich or Colon Pile.

Democrats are dying to hear from them? I don’t get it.

At any rate, this is a slap in the face to the very segment of the party that has any measurable enthusiasm.

I think democrat leaders know that it’s going to be impossible to govern with the AOC wing doing anything but yipping from the sidelines.

The next 12 weeks are going to be interesting.
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Dems are playing a shell game- "hide the progressives" because they are not popular outside of Dem circles
 
guno said:
subhuman polack
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The IQ, and intellectual achievements, of Polish Americans are far more similar to Ashkenazi Jews, than to African Americans.

That's probably just because the smart Ashkenazis mostly went to the USA.

Because Israel's IQ & Intellectual accomplishments are below that of Poland.
 
Darth Omar said:
Democrats *need* enthusiasm from their voters. The Republican Party is united behind Trump and they’re ready to roll.
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trump is an extremely divisive individual. he does get his supporters behind him, but even more so enthuses anyone who does not support him to vote against him. Can you imagine any liberal staying home on election day, and letting trump win? It is becoming hard to imagine any moderate not voting against trump.

I will say that I am amazed that so many religious conservatives are still strong supporters of a serial adulterer who has put an abortion requirement in contracts he signed with prostitutes. I really thought the religious conservatives had so morality, but I guess I was wrong.
 
Walt said:
trump is an extremely divisive individual. he does get his supporters behind him, but even more so enthuses anyone who does not support him to vote against him. Can you imagine any liberal staying home on election day, and letting trump win? It is becoming hard to imagine any moderate not voting against trump.

I will say that I am amazed that so many religious conservatives are still strong supporters of a serial adulterer who has put an abortion requirement in contracts he signed with prostitutes. I really thought the religious conservatives had so morality, but I guess I was wrong.
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It’s hard to imagine moderates voting for what some of what Democrats are offering.

Do they hate Trump so badly they’re ready to turn the country over to socialists?
 
Darth Omar said:
It’s hard to imagine moderates voting for what some of what Democrats are offering.
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Do you really think the "moderates" believe the right-wing media's claim that's what the Democrats are offering?

Do they hate Trump so badly they’re ready to turn the country over to socialists?
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Please tell me you're joking. PLEASE?
 
anatta said:
Dems are playing a shell game- "hide the progressives" because they are not popular outside of Dem circles
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Their ideas certainly aren’t.

Was it a year ago AOC’s New Green Deal came out? Congressional democrats were trying to tamp it down because even they knew all but the most rabid lefty voters would run from it. If the NGD was run out in the open democrats might as well concede the swing states.

Try thinking of it as a moderate or independent voter: so what’s the deal, are democrats really going to do this stuff? Or are they pandering to their radical wing to try and keep the party together? Can I trust them to not raise my taxes and cost of living?

I don’t know how it’s possible to keep from being uncertain about democrats *actual intentions* given the state of their party. Actually, I’m half persuaded even democrat leaders aren’t exactly sure what’s going to happen after/if Biden sits his geriatric ass down in the Oval Office lol.

Their convention was long on platitudes and short on policy prescriptions. They were certainly obsessed with race and Donald Trump. Do Democrats understand that many moderates and independents are sick of hearing about race? What are they going to with COVID? Lock us down again? Where’s the foreign policy vision?

I just can’t imagine why moderates/independents would be in a hurry to vote for Biden and the Democrats.
 
Darth Omar said:
Their ideas certainly aren’t.

Was it a year ago AOC’s New Green Deal came out? Congressional democrats were trying to tamp it down because even they knew all but the most rabid lefty voters would run from it. If the NGD was run out in the open democrats might as well concede the swing states.

Try thinking of it as a moderate or independent voter: so what’s the deal, are democrats really going to do this stuff? Or are they pandering to their radical wing to try and keep the party together? Can I trust them to not raise my taxes and cost of living?

I don’t know how it’s possible to keep from being uncertain about democrats *actual intentions* given the state of their party. Actually, I’m half persuaded even democrat leaders aren’t exactly sure what’s going to happen after/if Biden sits his geriatric ass down in the Oval Office lol.

Their convention was long on platitudes and short on policy prescriptions. They were certainly obsessed with race and Donald Trump. Do Democrats understand that many moderates and independents are sick of hearing about race? What are they going to with COVID? Lock us down again? Where’s the foreign policy vision?

I just can’t imagine why moderates/independents would be in a hurry to vote for Biden and the Democrats.
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What exactly are you trying to do?
 
AProudLefty said:
Do you really think the "moderates" believe the right-wing media's claim that's what the Democrats are offering?

Please tell me you're joking. PLEASE?
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Not even a little.

Whether you think it’s true or not doesn’t matter: what should matter to Democrats is *the perception* of socialism in the minds of voters.
 
Darth Omar said:
Not even a little.

Whether you think it’s true or not doesn’t matter: what should matter to Democrats is *the perception* of socialism in the minds of voters.
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Actually what matters is *the perception* of socialism in the minds of some Trump voters. The word screams Communism and Venezuela

Every time the word "socialism" is mentioned, they scream and say that America is going to be a shithole. Do you understand how silly it looks to us?.
 
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