Auto Pen use Clarified

[QP!]

We now have PROOF of how it is others behind the POTUS who are making the decisions and running the government without his involvement, via auto pen and other means.


"...The president was unaware of Hegseth’s order, as were other top national security officials in the meeting, according to two sources briefed on the private White House discussions and another with direct knowledge of the matter...."

Order by Hegseth to cancel Ukraine weapons caught White House off guard​

 

[Hawkeye10]

Suuuure.

 

[QP!]

Suuuure.

Sure ... what?

Do you think Trump is lying and that he knew what Hegseth did and the "other top national security" are also lying?

Or do you think the people in Trumps admin are are enacting the most critical type of foreign policy with an absentee Trump who is out golfing instead of being available for these briefings, so basically they are doing the equivalent of auto-penning his admin decision?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

We now have PROOF of how it is others behind the POTUS who are making the decisions and running the government without his involvement, via auto pen and other means.


"...The president was unaware of Hegseth’s order, as were other top national security officials in the meeting, according to two sources briefed on the private White House discussions and another with direct knowledge of the matter...."

Order by Hegseth to cancel Ukraine weapons caught White House off guard​

Whataboutism.

Aside from that, it is an instance that was obviously caught and dealt with in some fashion. With Biden we don't know what was going on with hundreds, potentially thousands, of official documents and proclamations.

 

[Nordberg]

Stephen Miller is the boss. Project 2025 is the blueprint. Trump is golfing, taking credit for what happens to go right, and taking none for what goes wrong. Can you imagine what a terrible mess Trump is making out of tariffs? His bullying worked when he was in business. So he is trying that in national deals. Countries are bypassing the US.
Trump signs EOs that he has no knowledge of. He has done it over and over. Even a die-hard Trump can see he is clueless about the EOs. There were hundreds of EOs already written by Miller and the super wealthy when he came into office. Are you rightys saying you do not understand that?

 

[Phantasmal]

We now have PROOF of how it is others behind the POTUS who are making the decisions and running the government without his involvement, via auto pen and other means.


"...The president was unaware of Hegseth’s order, as were other top national security officials in the meeting, according to two sources briefed on the private White House discussions and another with direct knowledge of the matter...."

Order by Hegseth to cancel Ukraine weapons caught White House off guard​

When they accused Biden of misusing it, I knew it was a confession!

 

[Trumpet]

Whataboutism.

Aside from that, it is an instance that was obviously caught and dealt with in some fashion. With Biden we don't know what was going on with hundreds, potentially thousands, of official documents and proclamations.

Just keep your head buried in the sand, where it belongs.

 

[christiefan915]

Whataboutism.

Aside from that, it is an instance that was obviously caught and dealt with in some fashion. With Biden we don't know what was going on with hundreds, potentially thousands, of official documents and proclamations.

We don't know because magas started that rumor with nothing to back it up.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

"People" knowingly elected a mentally inert lump to the Oval Office.
Nothing that's happened as a result
is anything different than these "people" apparently wanted.

 

[FastLane]

We now have PROOF of how it is others behind the POTUS who are making the decisions and running the government without his involvement, via auto pen and other means.


"...The president was unaware of Hegseth’s order, as were other top national security officials in the meeting, according to two sources briefed on the private White House discussions and another with direct knowledge of the matter...."

Order by Hegseth to cancel Ukraine weapons caught White House off guard​

What are the sources names?

 

[QP!]

Whataboutism.

Aside from that, it is an instance that was obviously caught and dealt with in some fashion. With Biden we don't know what was going on with hundreds, potentially thousands, of official documents and proclamations.

I am not talking about Biden here. This is a Trump story in the news now.

You are the one doing the whataboutism by bringing Biden in to this.

This thread is about either Trumps incompetence (absentee POTUS who is out golfing too much) or dementia (top leaders in his party do not think he can handle a briefing) and either of those is a concern.

 

[archives]

I am not talking about Biden here. This is a Trump story in the news now.

You are the one doing the whataboutism by bringing Biden in to this.

This thread is about either Trumps incompetence (absentee POTUS who is out golfing too much) or dementia (top leaders in his party do not think he can handle a briefing) and either of those is a concern.

Now you are really going to confuse them

The whole thing is just another Murdoch, Comer, and Jordan innuendo created as deflection off of Trump’s screw ups

 

[QP!]

Now you are really going to confuse them

The whole thing is just another Murdoch, Comer, and Jordan innuendo created as deflection off of Trump’s screw ups

it is just amazing to see @T. A. Gardner come into a story about Trump and a thread about Trump and try to make it about Biden while saying posting any news about Trump is a Biden whataboutism.

Over the next few years there will be many stories about Trump's inability to know what he has signed, or what decisions have been made. He will say he does not know what was fully in his Big Ugly Bill as the blow back starts to come his way.

That is because Trump is sundowning and knows he needs to protect his remaining mental health by golfing as much as he can and staying out of the WH where it becomes more clear.

So you can bet Terry will be here to claim every new Trump story is just a Biden whataboutism as Terry only wants the former POTUS scrutinized and thinks Trump should get a pass.

 

[Nordberg]

Trump does not know what is in the Big Ugly Bill. He doesn't know what is in the EOs he keeps signing. Trump is not part of the writing of any bills. So rightys claim, without proof, that Biden used auto pen. However he is a real experienced politician who helped craft legislation and set the agenda. Trump plays golf.

 

[Phantasmal]

Trump does not know what is in the Big Ugly Bill. He doesn't know what is in the EOs he keeps signing. Trump is not part of the writing of any bills. So rightys claim, without proof, that Biden used auto pen. However he is a real experienced politician who helped craft legislation and set the agenda. Trump plays golf.

Trump ran to stay out of prison and to enrich himself. He has no interest in being President, otherwise.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

We don't know because magas started that rumor with nothing to back it up.

We do know. Biden was near vegetative for at least the last year he was in office. Somebody was running the show, but it wasn't Joke.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Sure ... what?

Do you think Trump is lying and that he knew what Hegseth did and the "other top national security" are also lying?

Or do you think the people in Trumps admin are are enacting the most critical type of foreign policy with an absentee Trump who is out golfing instead of being available for these briefings, so basically they are doing the equivalent of auto-penning his admin decision?

What actually happened is that Trump took this claim that we were stopping arms supplies to Putin asking for a cease fire, when he said no the game is all over......as Trump denies he had anything to do with it.....when there is zero chance that Hegseth is ever going to do anything unless he is sure that Trump wants him to.