Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter

archives said:
Of course it makes sense, but probability is that the average working American who doesn't have the time to stay on top of things never understood that the withholding tax was eliminated along with personal exemptions, the earlier bump they saw in their paychecks they thought was the tax cut. Now the reality will sink in
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Withholding tax eliminated? WTF are you talking about?

The personal exemption went up so losing mortgage deduction only matters to rich folk. The ones you claim you want to tax more
 
cawacko said:
I'd argue many people see with their own two eyes the waste that occurs within our government and the services they provide us and thus question how much more of our money the government needs. To speak to that viewpoint isn't using demogaugery it's just talking about the real world.
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And as far as tax refunds what really needs to be stated is what state are these folks complaining from? We know with high tax states like Cali, NY, NJ etc. the limiting of SALT deductions hits them more.
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What then are you going to do down the road when these Trump tax cuts come due? You can't cut revenues and increase discretionary spending

And melodramatically throwing "tax cuts" or tax increases into every election is demagoguery, same thing as Democrats with their class struggle standard

Refunds mentioned are nationwide, it is common sense, if you eliminate payroll withholding you are going to be hit with a bigger bill in April, add in the elimination of personal exemptions and it is suprising Americans who thought they were getting "the biggest tax cut in history"
 
I Love America said:
Withholding tax eliminated? WTF are you talking about?

The personal exemption went up so losing mortgage deduction only matters to rich folk. The ones you claim you want to tax more
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Real estate taxes affect the middle class also in many communities. In addition there are a whole lot of other deductions Americans have lost thanks to Trump
 
I Love America said:
Withholding tax eliminated? WTF are you talking about?

The personal exemption went up so losing mortgage deduction only matters to rich folk. The ones you claim you want to tax more
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Obvious you don't understand the Trump tax cut you are discussing

The payroll withholding Americans were used to was eliminated, one had to file a special W4 to have money withdrawn. In addition, personal exemptions were eliminated, the poor working shmuck with four kids lost substantially
 
floridafan said:
Real estate taxes affect the middle class also in many communities. In addition there are a whole lot of other deductions Americans have lost thanks to Trump
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That’s right. Hign tax leftist states are impacted. They can no longer pass their taxing ways to the rest of us

Want to live in a high tax state live with it. Why should the rest of us subsidize it? I have to assume those people are happy with those taxes
 
archives said:
Obvious you don't understand the Trump tax cut you are discussing

The payroll withholding Americans were used to was eliminated, one had to file a special W4 to have money withdrawn. In addition, personal exemptions were eliminated, the poor working shmuck with four kids lost substantially
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You are a colossal dumb fuck and couldn’t be more wrong

Payroll withholding eliminated? What the fuck are you talking about?
 
I Love America said:
That’s right. Hign tax leftist states are impacted. They can no longer pass their taxing ways to the rest of us

Want to live in a high tax state live with it. Why should the rest of us subsidize it? I have to assume those people are happy with those taxes
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Your ignorance of the tax laws does not allow you to learn of the many other deductions taxpayers have lost. We have lost more than a mortgage interest deduction
 
floridafan said:
my little twat, the average tax payer has lost many more deductions than just property tax, but your handlers have just not explained them all tp you
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cite dumb cunt

I love how JPP democrats are not in the position of defending tax loopholes for the rich that Trump eliminated. Gotta love it
 
I Love America said:
cite dumb cunt

I love how JPP democrats are not in the position of defending tax loopholes for the rich that Trump eliminated. Gotta love it
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You know what I love, bitch? People who are so fucking pathetic that they groan recipe posts.

Groan, my little bitch. Groan.
 
domer76 said:
You know what I love, bitch? People who are so fucking pathetic that they groan recipe posts.

Groan, my little bitch. Groan.
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You know what I love? It bothered you so much you had to come here and whine about it

I love rent free in your brain. Dance for me my puppet
 
signalmankenneth said:
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

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Enough was not taken out u stupid fuck

Everyone pay their fair share..if they didnt take the right amount out U OWE or get less back!
 
You motherfucking idiots.
Nobody is talking about either tax withholdings or tax refunds.
What kind of stupid fuck would even bring that up?

We're talking about an incredibly bad tax law that was passed for the benefit of corporate oligarchs and the detriment of everybody else.

Anybody who didn't recognize that immediately doesn't deserve oxygen to breath.

Which, of course, brings us to the larger problem.

All 63,000,000 pieces of shit who voted for Donald Trump are worthless, irredeemable cretins.
The 66,000,000 people who voted against Trump, except for me, apparently, don't have the appetite to ruthlessly purge the 63,000,000 who did.
So America is fucked, well on its way to becoming a third world shithole.

The only answer for the foreseeable future is this: young people of procreational age, don't bring anymore innocent souls onto this shitstain of a planet.
You're fucking them over if you do.
 
And not only that, but the government also took in less revenue in 2018 than it did in 2017 because of the Russia Tax Cut they all support.
 
volsrock said:
Enough was not taken out u stupid fuck

Everyone pay their fair share..if they didnt take the right amount out U OWE or get less back!
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Before, Conservatives were saying that everyone's 2018 returns would be so wonderful and terrific. "Just wait for 2018 taxes, " they said, "you're gonna see all the savings this tax cut gave you."

Fast forward to 2019 and none of what Conservatives promised everyone has come to pass.

So now they shift their strategy to pettiness and selfishness.

Quite the change from December 2017, and throughout 2018, when they kept saying "just wait, you'll see how great the Russia Tax Cut was."

Narrator (In Morgan Freeman's voice): But it was not great, and many Trump voters found themselves with smaller refunds, or worse, owing money to the IRS
 
signalmankenneth said:
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

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Oh the poor babies aren't getting their outrageous state taxes subsidized as much by the rest of us!

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