who thinks you wouldn't buy a gay car?
Actually she could easily bring back $2 gas if they opened US drilling!! She might have to kill Maxine Waters to get it done though.
Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas
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who thinks you wouldn't buy a gay car?
Actually she could easily bring back $2 gas if they opened US drilling!! She might have to kill Maxine Waters to get it done though.
You really are a moron. How could we possibly replace 90% of the cars on the road instantly?
Production is ramping up very slowly, as pointed out repeatedly by The Dude. Upgrades of the grid are being planned, as you well know.
Also, ignored by you is the fact that every electric car plugged in makes the grid smarter. The benefits to this factor alone cannot be overstated.
As to the green aspect, I am surprised you are this ignorant. Electric cars use less fuel and contribute less greenhouse gases than internal combustion cars, by 50%, even if the electricity is generated by coal, they are that efficient. This includes the contributions of mining, transporting the coal, and electrical transmission losses. This is because internal combustion engines are only from 20%-30% efficient (gas, diesel respectively) while electric motors are 90% efficient.
When an electric car is charged by renewable means their greenhouse gas contribution are zilch.
As you know, any product with high tooling costs loses many at low sales volume.
The obverse though is that prices will drop as prodution increaes.
I have been researching this for years. I am on electric car forums, engineering, science and alternative energy forums, additionaly I read quite a few alt energy magazines, and tons of internet research.
It wouldn't happen as fast as she claims though, and we still need more refineries! Cost won't go down that much in my opinion.
It not a Dem talking point. The only thing "dem" about it is that republicans are opposed because it means using less oil, spending less on defence, less greenhouse gas, more people who are less energy dependent.
This is bullshit. Increased domestic production would at best add half a million barrels by 2030, a drop in the global bucket which would be instantly offset by decreases in OPEC production anyway.
No way gas drops in half by anything Back to mom can do in four years. You are down to stems and seeds.
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now come the lies and spin because dune was shown his stupidity. you're now moving the goal posts from "existing" to "future" grid capabilities. let us go back to your original claim that you've now obviously realized is wholly ignorant:
hence my comment on cars now. you showed once again you have no clue what you're talking about. you can't even follow your own claims and the conversation. i responded about cars now because of YOUR claim that the EXISTING infrastructue is "more" than sufficient. now you're wildly backpeddling. do try and keep up dune.
you really need to get a grip on what is being said rather than your talking points. i never said it wasn't green. if you bother to calm down and rationally think about what is being said, you would see i said it is not as green as many believe or promote. producing all that electricity is done how dune? more dams? nuke plants? what about all the batteries?
please try and stay focused so we can continue this discussion.
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a half a million barrels by 2030....lmao. you're clueless. it would far more than that. i would ask you to link to your claim but you never do when you pull shit out of your ass like you did with your bush claim.
Yeah, what about all those batteries? They need to be made by someone.
Sorry, I did write that too quickly. I meant half a million barrels a day, not in total.
The overal point is still valid, though, the additional percentage would still be under 1% of world wide use, and unable to influence the price in any way.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-offshore-drilling-make-us-independent&page=2
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that article was full of huge what ifs....it would affect price in some way, maybe not as much as some think, but more supply would influence price, especially given the way oil is traded, based on future consumption and output...think of what happens now when the saudi's or some other ME country reduces production by half a million or increases production by half a million...oil price almost always reacts
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so now you continue to move the goal posts from "existing" infrastructure, to "future" infrastructure.....from the environment to jobs.....you're not focused on this because it is clear you have no clue what you're talking about. it was nice of you to admit you were wrong about the oil, how about owning up to your claim of EXISTING infrastructure. i never moved the goal post, my comment about the cars was in DIRECT response to your idiot claim that -- EXISTING infrastructure IS MORE than adequate -- my comment about the cars was perfect and got you to recant your statement, albeit dishonestly, but it showed how wrong you are that existing infrastructure is more than enough.
Stop bloviating yurt. The existing infrastructure, while not sufficient for 225 million cars, is sufficient for now. I explained why, several times. You can continue to misunderstand what I said all you like.
http://www.chron.com/business/article/Utilities-confident-grids-can-handle-electric-car-1703785.php
http://www.vancouversun.com/technol...expansion+conference+hears/4852903/story.html
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/08/ev-charging-infrastructure/
Gas can't go to $2 and you know it, especialy during Bachmann's 4 year term. If we started now, it would be ten years. Try smoking a little less next time.
No, do you own an oil well?