uscitizen
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Ahh but before it fell apart it was the great bush economy
Strange how that works.
bad news for Republicans
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Ahh but before it fell apart it was the great bush economy
Strange how that works.
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The Almighty
1) That graph is almost a year old so is pretty meaningless at this point
2) Even if it were current, the fact that it is still a statistical dead heat between McCain and either Dem means that he is pulling the independents to the Reps. Bottom line. It is a statistical tie right now, so acting as though McCain "Can't" win is idiotic. But please.... continue believing so. The more Dems believe this is going to be a cakewalk the eaiser it will be for McCain to get a win.
evince
Truthmatters
Well seeing that they took office a little over a year ago I dont see how two years is in the offing.
They have not done as much as I would have liked but then again they are a slim majority and Bush is now vetoing things. He vetoed nothing the Rs did for years.
Therefore the Rs majority could do whatever they fucking wanted for years.
What they do doesnt count though does it SP only Dems get the credit huh?
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The Almighty
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
yes, the above is contradictory in Desh's assertion that McCain cannot win. What party people identify with is quite meaningless.... it is who they wish to vote for at this time that is relevant.
Topspin
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usmoron the ever bushblaimer
the economy issue is traditionally favoring the dems, and with a 26% approval rating the dems don't have much chest to stick out.
Dems are much better served playing the anti-war, anti-civil rights card, the water is over most of their heads on the economy.
the economy issue is traditionally favoring the dems, and with a 26% approval rating the dems don't have much chest to stick out.
Dems are much better served playing the anti-war, anti-civil rights card, the water is over most of their heads on the economy.
The person to whom I was speaking already answered the question, but thanks for the effort. Keep in mind, I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with Desh when I posted my information. I was merely providing a separate piece of bad news for Republicans. Whether your poll data is contradictory to Desh's assertion has no bearing whatsoever on what I posted.
Try to keep up.
1) The graph shows a fairly striking trend of people identifying more with the Democrats than with the Republicans. Yes, it is somewhat dated but to cast it aside as meaningless is, well, stupid.
2) I'm not sure who you think you are speaking to, but it certainly isn't me. If you want to discuss Desh's assertion that Republicans can't win, please do so. Just quit quoting my posts when you do it.
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The Almighty
The point is that your data is most certainly contradicted by current polling. It may not tell what party people identify with, but it shows a statistical tie. That means, either McCain is drawing overwhelming support from Independents (which would mean they are not in trouble) or that more people are now identifying with Reps (which means they are not in trouble).
EITHER way... McCain is not in trouble as people are identifying WITH HIM in great enough numbers to be in a statistical tie with either Dem.
I know that is a complex thought and that Desh is too partisan to understand it. But you should be able to comprehend that Dung.
cawacko
Well-known member
You are correct. For whatever reason Desh equated more voters registered as Democrats than Republicans to meaning the Democrats will automatically win the Presidency. As you stated its not that simple.
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The Almighty
Most use a random sampling Desh. They most certainly do not go by who identified with what party a year ago.
By the way... latest time poll was 38 Dem 31 rep 22 Independent and the rest were "Other"
Which again leads you to the point that even with 7 percent more dems it is STILL a statistical tie... which means what Desh???
All that shows is that McCain is a decent candidate. Are you seriously trying to assert that a 15 point gap on partisan identification is not bad news for Republicans? Because that is the point I was making.
You seem to be saying that the 15 point gap is not bad news for Republicans generally because people seem to like John McCain. Not so.
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The Almighty
Latest CNN poll....
The poll surveyed 1,192 adults. Of 974 registered voters, 500 described themselves as Democrats and 412 identified themselves as Republicans.
Again, more said Dems, yet in a statistical tie.
The poll surveyed 1,192 adults. Of 974 registered voters, 500 described themselves as Democrats and 412 identified themselves as Republicans.
Again, more said Dems, yet in a statistical tie.
evince
Truthmatters
Take a look at America today and realize the vast majority considers Bush a sad joke.
It has become embarrassing to try to defend him. Like it or not he and his kdeeds represent your party.
The trend is not going to swing back in his direction in nine months. this graph is less than a year old.
The trend has not reversed since then it has swung further away from Bush.
Democrats will come out in huge masses to vote against the man who has embraced Bush (McCain).
You guys think he is not even enough of a Bush butt boy.
they can not cheat enough to win this one.
It has become embarrassing to try to defend him. Like it or not he and his kdeeds represent your party.
The trend is not going to swing back in his direction in nine months. this graph is less than a year old.
The trend has not reversed since then it has swung further away from Bush.
Democrats will come out in huge masses to vote against the man who has embraced Bush (McCain).
You guys think he is not even enough of a Bush butt boy.
they can not cheat enough to win this one.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
THis is about the immigration issue, which bush agreed with him on. We want him further from bush.
ON the war issue, even democrats will keep us there, despite what they're saying now. Their main job is to keep the country at war.
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The Almighty
What I am saying and you are apparently not comprehending is that YOUR DATA IS OLD.
Take a look at the damn polls. They too ask people what party they identify with.
You are complete wrong in suggesting that the year old data has ANY relevance today. It is how people identify TODAY that matters. It is how people intend to vote TODAY that matters TODAY. But you know what, even THIS data does not matter in the long run as it only matters how people identify themselves and who they vote for on election day.
yes, I am saying your gap does not matter.
cawacko
Well-known member
Keep telling yourself that Desh if it makes you feel good, 'Democrats can not lose unless the Republicans cheat'. That way you don't ever have to face issues your party deals with.
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The Almighty
The poll surveyed 1,192 adults. Of 974 registered voters, 500 described themselves as Democrats and 412 identified themselves as Republicans.
Do try to comprehend this time you partisan hack. Obviously your assertation in bold above is nothing more than your OPINION, with no facts behind them. It most certainly matters that the data Dung posted was from March of 2007.