Beating Women is Legal in California. Gavin? Where Are You??

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Tobytone

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How can you idiots stand to watch a man beat a woman in public and cheer? Another loser that couldn't complete with his gender moves to compete with girl's and wins the number one spot in the whole country. Shocker!! Men are much better at all sports. I know that's hard to hear for the mentally ill retarded libtards, but the truth sometimes hurts. Those girls work their entire lives and have zero chance when some loser takes advantage of the policies of a bunch of Marxist anti-American, anti-reality losers create.

Where's Gavin, he said it wasn't fair on his pathetic podcast. You think he was just saying what he thought the listeners wanted to hear at that moment? No, not Gavin, he's as honest as they come, right? Maybe the libtards are just doing what their voters want. Not even close. Is there a single JPP libtard that has the balls to say this isn't right and needs to change now? Nope, you're all cowards.
 
Tobytone said:
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-spo...mping-events-california-postseason-track-meet #FoxNews

How can you idiots stand to watch a man beat a woman in public and cheer? Another loser that couldn't complete with his gender moves to compete with girl's and wins the number one spot in the whole country. Shocker!! Men are much better at all sports. I know that's hard to hear for the mentally ill retarded libtards, but the truth sometimes hurts. Those girls work their entire lives and have zero chance when some loser takes advantage of the policies of a bunch of Marxist anti-American, anti-reality losers create.

Where's Gavin, he said it wasn't fair on his pathetic podcast. You think he was just saying what he thought the listeners wanted to hear at that moment? No, not Gavin, he's as honest as they come, right? Maybe the libtards are just doing what their voters want. Not even close. Is there a single JPP libtard that has the balls to say this isn't right and needs to change now? Nope, you're all cowards.
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✅​

Event:​

A California high school track meet where a transgender girl won a girls’ event.

Source check:​

The Fox News / OutKick article describes:

  • A transgender female athlete competing in a girls’ race
  • She won a qualifying event
  • Some parents and athletes objected
  • California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) policy allows transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports based on gender identity

Independent confirmation:​

  • CIF official policy: Transgender athletes may compete according to their gender identity.Source: CIF Bylaws, Gender Identity Participation (CIF, official site).
  • Multiple outlets (AP, LA Times, NBC) have reported similar controversies in California track events.

What is ​

  • The claim that this athlete is “#1 in the whole country.”There is no national ranking in the article or in track databases confirming this.
  • The claim that she “couldn’t compete with men” is not supported by any performance data in the article.

✅​

False. Overgeneralized. Scientifically inaccurate.

What the evidence actually shows:​

  • After puberty, average male bodies have higher testosterone, muscle mass, and bone density.This creates average performance differences in many sports.Sources:
    • Journal of Applied Physiology
    • British Journal of Sports Medicine
    • IOC Consensus Statement on Sex & Sport

But:​

  • “Men are better at all sports” is not true.Examples where women outperform men:
    • Ultra‑endurance swimming
    • Ultra‑marathon pacing efficiency
    • Flexibility and balance‑dominant sports
    • Several precision sports
This is a nuanced physiological topic, not an absolute.


✅​

False. Not supported by data.

What the data shows:​

  • Transgender athletes do not dominate girls’ sports nationally.
  • In most states, trans girls represent <0.1% of athletes.Source: UCLA Williams Institute, 2022.
  • Studies show mixed results on performance after hormone therapy.Sources:
    • Sports Medicine (2021 review)
    • Journal of Sporting Cultures (2022)

Real-world outcomes:​

  • Many trans girls do not win events.
  • Some win occasionally.
  • A few become competitive at the state level.
  • None dominate national rankings.
The “zero chance” framing is rhetorical, not factual.


✅​

Not a factual claim — pure political rhetoric.

Fact check:​

  • CIF’s transgender policy was created by a nonpartisan athletic governing body, not a political party.
  • The policy is similar to those in:
    • NCAA (pre‑2022)
    • 20+ U.S. states
    • International federations (pre‑2021)
This is not a Marxist policy; it is a sports governance policy.


✅​

Misleading / lacks context.

What Newsom has actually said:​

  • Newsom has criticized blanket bans on transgender athletes.
  • He has not endorsed the idea that trans participation is inherently unfair.
  • He has said fairness concerns should be handled case by case, not through bans.
No evidence he said “it wasn’t fair” in the way the commenter implies.


✅​

The user‑supplied commentary contains:​

  • Hate speech
  • Slurs against protected groups
  • Dehumanizing language
  • Claims presented as fact without evidence
  • Emotional reasoning rather than data
  • Strawman arguments (“libtards want this”)
  • Absolutist generalizations (“men are better at all sports”)

Fox News / OutKick article bias:​

  • OutKick is a right‑leaning sports commentary site
  • Fox News is right‑leaning
  • Both frame transgender participation as inherently unfair
  • They emphasize controversy and parental anger
  • They do not provide scientific nuance or broader statistical context

What the article ​

  • It does not provide performance data
  • It does not compare times to national averages
  • It does not interview the athlete
  • It does not cite scientific research
  • It does not contextualize how rare trans athletes are

📌​

True:​

  • A trans girl won a race in California.
  • CIF policy allows her to compete.
  • Some parents and athletes objected.

Partially true / misleading:​

  • Claims about fairness lack scientific nuance.
  • Claims about Newsom are oversimplified.

False:​

  • “Men are better at all sports.”
  • “Girls have zero chance.”
  • “#1 in the whole country.”
  • “Policies are Marxist.”
  • “He couldn’t compete with men.” (No evidence)

Not factual at all:​

  • All slurs, insults, and dehumanizing language.
 
Grim Reaper said:

✅​

Event:​

A California high school track meet where a transgender girl won a girls’ event.

Source check:​

The Fox News / OutKick article describes:

  • A transgender female athlete competing in a girls’ race
  • She won a qualifying event
  • Some parents and athletes objected
  • California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) policy allows transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports based on gender identity

Independent confirmation:​

  • CIF official policy: Transgender athletes may compete according to their gender identity.Source: CIF Bylaws, Gender Identity Participation (CIF, official site).
  • Multiple outlets (AP, LA Times, NBC) have reported similar controversies in California track events.

What is ​

  • The claim that this athlete is “#1 in the whole country.”There is no national ranking in the article or in track databases confirming this.
  • The claim that she “couldn’t compete with men” is not supported by any performance data in the article.

✅​

False. Overgeneralized. Scientifically inaccurate.

What the evidence actually shows:​

  • After puberty, average male bodies have higher testosterone, muscle mass, and bone density.This creates average performance differencesin many sports.Sources:
    • Journal of Applied Physiology
    • British Journal of Sports Medicine
    • IOC Consensus Statement on Sex & Sport

But:​

  • “Men are better at all sports” is not true.Examples where women outperform men:
    • Ultra‑endurance swimming
    • Ultra‑marathon pacing efficiency
    • Flexibility and balance‑dominant sports
    • Several precision sports
This is a nuanced physiological topic, not an absolute.


✅​

False. Not supported by data.

What the data shows:​

  • Transgender athletes do not dominate girls’ sports nationally.
  • In most states, trans girls represent <0.1% of athletes.Source: UCLA Williams Institute, 2022.
  • Studies show mixed resultson performance after hormone therapy.Sources:
    • Sports Medicine (2021 review)
    • Journal of Sporting Cultures (2022)

Real-world outcomes:​

  • Many trans girls do not win events.
  • Some win occasionally.
  • A few become competitive at the state level.
  • None dominate national rankings.
The “zero chance” framing is rhetorical, not factual.


✅​

Not a factual claim — pure political rhetoric.

Fact check:​

  • CIF’s transgender policy was created by a nonpartisan athletic governing body, not a political party.
  • The policy is similar to those in:
    • NCAA (pre‑2022)
    • 20+ U.S. states
    • International federations (pre‑2021)
This is not a Marxist policy; it is a sports governance policy.


✅​

Misleading / lacks context.

What Newsom has actually said:​

  • Newsom has criticized blanket bans on transgender athletes.
  • He has not endorsed the idea that trans participation is inherently unfair.
  • He has said fairness concerns should be handled case by case, not through bans.
No evidence he said “it wasn’t fair” in the way the commenter implies.


✅​

The user‑supplied commentary contains:​

  • Hate speech
  • Slurs against protected groups
  • Dehumanizing language
  • Claims presented as fact without evidence
  • Emotional reasoning rather than data
  • Strawman arguments (“libtards want this”)
  • Absolutist generalizations (“men are better at all sports”)

Fox News / OutKick article bias:​

  • OutKick is a right‑leaning sports commentary site
  • Fox News is right‑leaning
  • Both frame transgender participation as inherently unfair
  • They emphasize controversy and parental anger
  • They do not provide scientific nuance or broader statistical context

What the article ​

  • It does not provide performance data
  • It does not compare times to national averages
  • It does not interview the athlete
  • It does not cite scientific research
  • It does not contextualize how rare trans athletes are

📌​

True:​

  • A trans girl won a race in California.
  • CIF policy allows her to compete.
  • Some parents and athletes objected.

Partially true / misleading:​

  • Claims about fairness lack scientific nuance.
  • Claims about Newsom are oversimplified.

False:​

  • “Men are better at all sports.”
  • “Girls have zero chance.”
  • “#1 in the whole country.”
  • “Policies are Marxist.”
  • “He couldn’t compete with men.” (No evidence)

Not factual at all:​

  • All slurs, insults, and dehumanizing language.
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Trans are right-wingers' newest boogeyman. They'd have nothing if it weren't for their boogeymen.
 
Grim Reaper said:

✅​

Event:​

A California high school track meet where a transgender girl won a girls’ event.

Source check:​

The Fox News / OutKick article describes:

  • A transgender female athlete competing in a girls’ race
  • She won a qualifying event
  • Some parents and athletes objected
  • California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) policy allows transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports based on gender identity

Independent confirmation:​

  • CIF official policy: Transgender athletes may compete according to their gender identity.Source: CIF Bylaws, Gender Identity Participation (CIF, official site).
  • Multiple outlets (AP, LA Times, NBC) have reported similar controversies in California track events.

What is ​

  • The claim that this athlete is “#1 in the whole country.”There is no national ranking in the article or in track databases confirming this.
  • The claim that she “couldn’t compete with men” is not supported by any performance data in the article.

✅​

False. Overgeneralized. Scientifically inaccurate.

What the evidence actually shows:​

  • After puberty, average male bodies have higher testosterone, muscle mass, and bone density.This creates average performance differencesin many sports.Sources:
    • Journal of Applied Physiology
    • British Journal of Sports Medicine
    • IOC Consensus Statement on Sex & Sport

But:​

  • “Men are better at all sports” is not true.Examples where women outperform men:
    • Ultra‑endurance swimming
    • Ultra‑marathon pacing efficiency
    • Flexibility and balance‑dominant sports
    • Several precision sports
This is a nuanced physiological topic, not an absolute.


✅​

False. Not supported by data.

What the data shows:​

  • Transgender athletes do not dominate girls’ sports nationally.
  • In most states, trans girls represent <0.1% of athletes.Source: UCLA Williams Institute, 2022.
  • Studies show mixed resultson performance after hormone therapy.Sources:
    • Sports Medicine (2021 review)
    • Journal of Sporting Cultures (2022)

Real-world outcomes:​

  • Many trans girls do not win events.
  • Some win occasionally.
  • A few become competitive at the state level.
  • None dominate national rankings.
The “zero chance” framing is rhetorical, not factual.


✅​

Not a factual claim — pure political rhetoric.

Fact check:​

  • CIF’s transgender policy was created by a nonpartisan athletic governing body, not a political party.
  • The policy is similar to those in:
    • NCAA (pre‑2022)
    • 20+ U.S. states
    • International federations (pre‑2021)
This is not a Marxist policy; it is a sports governance policy.


✅​

Misleading / lacks context.

What Newsom has actually said:​

  • Newsom has criticized blanket bans on transgender athletes.
  • He has not endorsed the idea that trans participation is inherently unfair.
  • He has said fairness concerns should be handled case by case, not through bans.
No evidence he said “it wasn’t fair” in the way the commenter implies.


✅​

The user‑supplied commentary contains:​

  • Hate speech
  • Slurs against protected groups
  • Dehumanizing language
  • Claims presented as fact without evidence
  • Emotional reasoning rather than data
  • Strawman arguments (“libtards want this”)
  • Absolutist generalizations (“men are better at all sports”)

Fox News / OutKick article bias:​

  • OutKick is a right‑leaning sports commentary site
  • Fox News is right‑leaning
  • Both frame transgender participation as inherently unfair
  • They emphasize controversy and parental anger
  • They do not provide scientific nuance or broader statistical context

What the article ​

  • It does not provide performance data
  • It does not compare times to national averages
  • It does not interview the athlete
  • It does not cite scientific research
  • It does not contextualize how rare trans athletes are

📌​

True:​

  • A trans girl won a race in California.
  • CIF policy allows her to compete.
  • Some parents and athletes objected.

Partially true / misleading:​

  • Claims about fairness lack scientific nuance.
  • Claims about Newsom are oversimplified.

False:​

  • “Men are better at all sports.”
  • “Girls have zero chance.”
  • “#1 in the whole country.”
  • “Policies are Marxist.”
  • “He couldn’t compete with men.” (No evidence)

Not factual at all:​

  • All slurs, insults, and dehumanizing language.
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If you have to put "transgender" in front of girl it's not a girl.
 
Yakuda said:
If you have to put "transgender" in front of girl it's not a girl.
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☠️​

1. Legal reality (United States & California)​

False. In California — the state where the track meet occurred — transgender girls are legally recognized as girls in schools and athletics.

Sources:​

  • California Education Code § 221.5 — students must be allowed to participate in sex‑segregated programs “consistent with their gender identity.”
  • CIF Bylaws: Gender Identity Participation — explicitly recognizes transgender girls as girls for sports eligibility.
Conclusion: Legally, the state does not treat “transgender girl” as “not a girl.”


2. Medical & psychological consensus​

False. Major medical organizations recognize transgender girls as girls in terms of gender identity.

Sources:​

  • American Academy of Pediatrics
  • American Medical Association
  • American Psychological Association
  • Endocrine Society
All define gender identity as a core aspect of personhood and recognize transgender girls as girls.

Conclusion: Medically and psychologically, the statement contradicts established consensus.


3. Linguistic reality​

Misleading. Adding a descriptor (“transgender”) does not negate the noun (“girl”).English uses descriptors constantly:

  • “adopted daughter” is still a daughter
  • “step‑brother” is still a brother
  • “deaf athlete” is still an athlete
  • “transgender woman” is still a woman
The prefix clarifies context — it does not erase category membership.


4. Bias & rhetorical framing​

The statement is:

  • Essentialist (reduces gender to biology only)
  • Exclusionary (denies the existence of transgender identity)
  • Not evidence‑based
  • A political position, not a factual one
It functions as a definition‑claim, not a truth‑claim.

This is a value judgment, not a verifiable statement.


☠️​

Factually:​

  • Law: Trans girls = girls in California schools and sports
  • Medicine: Trans girls = girls in gender identity
  • Linguistics: Descriptors don’t negate categories
  • Data: The statement is not supported by any empirical field

Therefore:​

The claim “If you have to put ‘transgender’ in front of girl it’s not a girl” is not factual, not supported by law, not supported by medicine, and not supported by linguistics.It is an ideological assertion, not a truth claim.
 
Yakuda said:
Why are you retards so anxious to have boys compete with girls?
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☠️ “Why are you anxious to have boys compete with girls?”​

Fact check:​

This is a loaded question, not a factual inquiry.

It assumes:

  1. Trans girls = boys (factually incorrect)
  2. Supporters “want” this for ideological reasons (unsupported)

What the evidence actually shows:​

People who support trans inclusion typically cite:

  • Civil rights principles
  • Medical recognition of gender identity
  • Existing athletic policies
  • Fairness frameworks used by schools and leagues
None of these motivations are about “wanting boys to compete with girls.”


☠️​

Yakuda’s comment includes:​

  • A slur
  • Misgendering
  • A false premise
  • A moral accusation (“anxious to have…”)
  • A framing designed to provoke, not debate
This is not a factual argument — it’s identity‑based hostility.


☠️ Bias & Rhetoric Analysis​

True:​

  • Transgender issues have become a major focus in right‑wing politics.

False:​

  • “Boys are competing with girls” (the athlete is legally and medically a girl).
  • The implication that supporters “want boys in girls’ sports.”

Not factual at all:​

  • Slurs
  • Misgendering
  • Loaded accusations
  • Emotional framing
 
Grim Reaper said:

☠️​

1. Legal reality (United States & California)​

False. In California — the state where the track meet occurred — transgender girls are legally recognized as girls in schools and athletics.

Sources:​

  • California Education Code § 221.5 — students must be allowed to participate in sex‑segregated programs “consistent with their gender identity.”
  • CIF Bylaws: Gender Identity Participation — explicitly recognizes transgender girls as girls for sports eligibility.
Conclusion: Legally, the state does not treat “transgender girl” as “not a girl.”


2. Medical & psychological consensus​

False. Major medical organizations recognize transgender girls as girls in terms of gender identity.

Sources:​

  • American Academy of Pediatrics
  • American Medical Association
  • American Psychological Association
  • Endocrine Society
All define gender identity as a core aspect of personhood and recognize transgender girls as girls.

Conclusion: Medically and psychologically, the statement contradicts established consensus.


3. Linguistic reality​

Misleading. Adding a descriptor (“transgender”) does not negate the noun (“girl”).English uses descriptors constantly:

  • “adopted daughter” is still a daughter
  • “step‑brother” is still a brother
  • “deaf athlete” is still an athlete
  • “transgender woman” is still a woman
The prefix clarifies context — it does not erase category membership.


4. Bias & rhetorical framing​

The statement is:

  • Essentialist (reduces gender to biology only)
  • Exclusionary (denies the existence of transgender identity)
  • Not evidence‑based
  • A political position, not a factual one
It functions as a definition‑claim, not a truth‑claim.

This is a value judgment, not a verifiable statement.


☠️​

Factually:​

  • Law: Trans girls = girls in California schools and sports
  • Medicine: Trans girls = girls in gender identity
  • Linguistics: Descriptors don’t negate categories
  • Data: The statement is not supported by any empirical field

Therefore:​

The claim “If you have to put ‘transgender’ in front of girl it’s not a girl” is not factual, not supported by law, not supported by medicine, and not supported by linguistics.It is an ideological assertion, not a truth claim.
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You can cry all you like but calling a pig a chicken, doesn't make it a chicken, even if you pass a law saying so. What I'm waiting for is the day a transgender girl boxer beats a real girl boxer to a pulp. I would say it might wake you moron up but you people are too entrenched in this stupidity to talk sense to.
 
Grim Reaper said:

☠️ “Why are you anxious to have boys compete with girls?”​

Fact check:​

This is a loaded question, not a factual inquiry.

It assumes:

  1. Trans girls = boys (factually incorrect)
  2. Supporters “want” this for ideological reasons (unsupported)

What the evidence actually shows:​

People who support trans inclusion typically cite:

  • Civil rights principles
  • Medical recognition of gender identity
  • Existing athletic policies
  • Fairness frameworks used by schools and leagues
None of these motivations are about “wanting boys to compete with girls.”


☠️​

Yakuda’s comment includes:​

  • A slur
  • Misgendering
  • A false premise
  • A moral accusation (“anxious to have…”)
  • A framing designed to provoke, not debate
This is not a factual argument — it’s identity‑based hostility.


☠️ Bias & Rhetoric Analysis​

True:​

  • Transgender issues have become a major focus in right‑wing politics.

False:​

  • “Boys are competing with girls” (the athlete is legally and medically a girl).
  • The implication that supporters “want boys in girls’ sports.”

Not factual at all:​

  • Slurs
  • Misgendering
  • Loaded accusations
  • Emotional framing
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You have an emotional boo boo? If only I gave a shit.
 
Yakuda said:
You can cry all you like but calling a pig a chicken, doesn't make it a chicken, even if you pass a law saying so. What I'm waiting for is the day a transgender girl boxer beats a real girl boxer to a pulp. I would say it might wake you moron up but you people are too entrenched in this stupidity to talk sense to.
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The pig‑and‑chicken analogy only works if you start by pretending you can’t tell the difference between a human being and your own fear. You keep fantasizing about some future boxing match because you don’t have a single real‑world example to stand on today. That’s why your argument leans so hard on hypotheticals, reality isn’t cooperating with you.

And calling everyone else stupid doesn’t make you right. It just makes it obvious which part of this conversation is running on panic instead of facts.
 
Grim Reaper said:
The pig‑and‑chicken analogy only works if you start by pretending you can’t tell the difference between a human being and your own fear. You keep fantasizing about some future boxing match because you don’t have a single real‑world example to stand on today. That’s why your argument leans so hard on hypotheticals, reality isn’t cooperating with you.

And calling everyone else stupid doesn’t make you right. It just makes it obvious which part of this conversation is running on panic instead of facts.
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Yeah somehow you believe what you think is reality. Most psychotics think that way. A boy will never be a girl not matter how much you really really really really really really really really really want that to be the case

It also doesn't make me wrong dipshit
 
Yakuda said:
Yeah somehow you believe what you think is reality. Most psychotics think that way. A boy will never be a girl not matter how much you really really really really really really really really really want that to be the case

It also doesn't make me wrong dipshit
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you keep diagnosing everyone else while ignoring the one symptom you can’t hide, you confuse volume with truth. You repeat the same line about boys because it’s the only thing in this debate that doesn’t immediately fall apart in your hands.

You call people psychotic, but you’re the one arguing with a fantasy opponent because the real facts won’t play along. And the funniest part? You think your insults make you look confident, when all they really do is show how scared you are of a world that stopped asking your permission to exist.
 
Grim Reaper said:
you keep diagnosing everyone else while ignoring the one symptom you can’t hide, you confuse volume with truth. You repeat the same line about boys because it’s the only thing in this debate that doesn’t immediately fall apart in your hands.

You call people psychotic, but you’re the one arguing with a fantasy opponent because the real facts won’t play along. And the funniest part? You think your insults make you look confident, when all they really do is show how scared you are of a world that stopped asking your permission to exist.
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No I'm white clear on the different between a boy and a girl. I know in your confused mind every thing is the same. It's ok you can't help it. You're limited.

You are psychotic I'm not calling you that. I'm not calling a cat a cat it is a cat. You're a psycho because you don't know the difference between makes and females.
 
Grim Reaper said:

☠️ “Why are you anxious to have boys compete with girls?”​

Fact check:​

This is a loaded question, not a factual inquiry.

It assumes:

  1. Trans girls = boys (factually incorrect)
  2. Supporters “want” this for ideological reasons (unsupported)

What the evidence actually shows:​

People who support trans inclusion typically cite:

  • Civil rights principles
  • Medical recognition of gender identity
  • Existing athletic policies
  • Fairness frameworks used by schools and leagues
None of these motivations are about “wanting boys to compete with girls.”


☠️​

Yakuda’s comment includes:​

  • A slur
  • Misgendering
  • A false premise
  • A moral accusation (“anxious to have…”)
  • A framing designed to provoke, not debate
This is not a factual argument — it’s identity‑based hostility.


☠️ Bias & Rhetoric Analysis​

True:​

  • Transgender issues have become a major focus in right‑wing politics.

False:​

  • “Boys are competing with girls” (the athlete is legally and medically a girl).
  • The implication that supporters “want boys in girls’ sports.”

Not factual at all:​

  • Slurs
  • Misgendering
  • Loaded accusations
  • Emotional framing
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The person who won that race is a biological male. End of the story. Males shouldn't be competing against females in sports.
 
Tobytone said:
https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-spo...mping-events-california-postseason-track-meet #FoxNews

How can you idiots stand to watch a man beat a woman in public and cheer? Another loser that couldn't complete with his gender moves to compete with girl's and wins the number one spot in the whole country. Shocker!! Men are much better at all sports. I know that's hard to hear for the mentally ill retarded libtards, but the truth sometimes hurts. Those girls work their entire lives and have zero chance when some loser takes advantage of the policies of a bunch of Marxist anti-American, anti-reality losers create.

Where's Gavin, he said it wasn't fair on his pathetic podcast. You think he was just saying what he thought the listeners wanted to hear at that moment? No, not Gavin, he's as honest as they come, right? Maybe the libtards are just doing what their voters want. Not even close. Is there a single JPP libtard that has the balls to say this isn't right and needs to change now? Nope, you're all cowards.
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Fox News = Fake News
 
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