Before you can read this, a thousand more gallons of crude spews into the gulf!

Okay; given that it's still spewing, do you know what the rough % of oil, as compared to the total spewing out every day, the "best equipment" would be able to clean?

In other words, if the best cleanup efforts & equipment were in place from day 1, would it have prevented the fishing area topspin referred to from being slicked?

A friend of mine came up with an idea using a seperator.

Everyone should go out on a boat, start sucking up the water and oil, seperate the oil into containers, and sell it. It really could be a gold mine if done right.
 
Well, there is plenty of criticism for "not capped yet" here on the ol' board that goes by completely unnoticed by you rightie hacks.

And as for "not bringing in the best minds fast enough" on cleanup...can you please explain to me the massive difference that has effected, when you admit that there was little he could have done about capping, and this thing has been spewing unabated from the get go, and will continue to spew for a few more weeks at minimum? How much "extra" cleanup are we really talking about here?

Completely idiotic.

Oh... I can see those who have stated as such, but there are about 1000 complaints every time someone does so. Thus, no need for any additional piling on.

As for the clean up... the very fact that there is little that can be done about capping if anything ADDS to the inept decision to wait so long to get every available proven technology on site as soon as possible to get the oil out of the water.

The Dutch (among others) have proven expertise in the clean up with their arms... yet it took over a month to make the request to get them here. Had equipment such as that been on hand within the first week and up and running in the second, then they could have done a better job of removing it. Had they brought down all of the boom that was offered from the start and deployed it better, they also could have done a better job containing the spill.

Had they not decided to keep the sand berms construction with JUST American companies and instead brought in those foreign companies who could produce with greater capacity... that too would have likely helped.

That said, there is little they could have done to stop/slow the pace of the spill. Which is why it was all the more important to have cleaning and containment equipment on hand in as much mass as possible.
 
Now there's a new one. This is Obama's "My Pet Goat" moment. LOL.

Man, you really get a sense of the baggage Bushies have had to carry around w/ this disaster.

I think it's hilarious that Obama is being blamed for the actual spewing of oil, as though he is supposed to invent the technology that can actually cap the thing. This whole disaster is much more of a lesson on how profits don't rule when it comes to common sense prevention and precautionary measures.

As for "nothing is being done," pick up a paper once in awhile...

But Onceler, he's not expected to invent the technology to stop the leak...nonono...Righties expect Obama to don a diving mask and snorkel, dive down OVER ONE MILE and seal the leak with his heat vision!

They expect nothing less, and if Obama gives them anything less, they'll keep calling him the names we've read over the past week.
 
Okay; given that it's still spewing, do you know what the rough % of oil, as compared to the total spewing out every day, the "best equipment" would be able to clean?

In other words, if the best cleanup efforts & equipment were in place from day 1, would it have prevented the fishing area topspin referred to from being slicked?

see toppys reply....
 
I'll post this again, obviously you missed it the first time...

In the early 90s, the Saudi's had a spill nearly as bad as this, and they dispersed super-tankers immediately, where the gushing oil was sucked up as it came out, limiting the damage it did to their coasts. Why aren't we doing that? Why haven't the Saudi's been consulted on this? Why can't the Dutch even get their phone calls returned?


I'll ask you again, WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THIS????????????

No one expects Obama to go down to the Gulf and wave his hand to make the oil stop flowing! God knows, there were certainly some liberals out there who THOUGHT he had such powers, but most of us rational sane people understand he can't do that. But the talking and meeting with people is not doing a thing to address this crisis. We need some REAL ACTION, we need to see an effort being made to mitigate the problem, to deal with what is already in the gulf! We simply can't wait around until August, when the oil flow is stopped, then start thinking about the clean up! We need to be doing SOMETHING NOW!


4 days into Katrina Bush suspended the Jones Act.
 
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no new tech is needed to keep oil off the beaches, these clowns have boom thrown around beaches like crumpled up toilet paper. It's an utter disasterous response, piss poor on the pres, coast guard, industry and state level. Sorry
 
Basically what is happening, is that Republicans say that government "doesn't work" (they actually say that with government less is better) and the Democrats get elected and prove it.
 
Basically what is happening, is that Republicans say that government "doesn't work" (they actually say that with government less is better) and the Democrats get elected and prove it.
Oh, and before somebody takes it too seriously, this is tongue in cheek, and a poor twist on what another poster kept posting just a few weeks ago.
 
Gulf Oil Spill Update: What's All This Business About the Jones Act?

Fox News' Brian Wilson made some waves yesterday with a post arguing that a 90-year-old law may be impeding the cleanup efforts in the Gulf oil spill.

The Jones Act, enacted in 1920, places restrictions on certain shipborne activities in U.S. waters to boats built in the U.S. and operated by American workers. Foreign Policy magazine noted last month that a number of nations had offered to help contain the spill by sending over skimmer ships, but US officials turned the offers down, saying thanks, but they could handle the spill on their own. It was unclear what was going on at the time, but politicians and commentators on both sides of the partisan divide are now wondering whether the Jones Act is behind the refusal.

During Katrina, Bush waived the act, writes Wilson, yet Obama has yet to do so for the Gulf crisis -- which some speculate has to do with Obama's support for labor unions, which benefit from the Jones Act in non-crisis times. The administration and the Coast Guard have responded by saying they've accepted help from a number of nations in terms of equipment, including 3,000 meters of containment boom from Canada, and two oil skimmers from Mexico. But those are all operated from U.S. ships, by American workers. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told Fox, "If there is the need for any type of waiver, that would obviously be granted. But, we've not had that problem thus far."
 
I have always faulted Bush for not showing leadership when it came to actually getting people out of those streets.

and just like i said previously, onceler will fail to mention the democrats in charge and ONLY mention bush until called on it...he doesn't blame them, he only gives lip service to it when called on it
 
But Onceler, he's not expected to invent the technology to stop the leak...nonono...Righties expect Obama to don a diving mask and snorkel, dive down OVER ONE MILE and seal the leak with his heat vision!

They expect nothing less, and if Obama gives them anything less, they'll keep calling him the names we've read over the past week.

thats exactly what libs did with bush and katrina :pke:
 
and just like i said previously, onceler will fail to mention the democrats in charge and ONLY mention bush until called on it...he doesn't blame them, he only gives lip service to it when called on it

Board police!

Yurtsie, Yurtsie, Yurtsie - you're just like bravo. Don't you know that the same could be said of you & bringing up Bush?

I bet you'll deny that, Yurtsie! "Oh, no, I'm so super-objective - I take righties and lefties to task all of the time!"

LOL LOL LOL

:clink:
 
Board police!

Yurtsie, Yurtsie, Yurtsie - you're just like bravo. Don't you know that the same could be said of you & bringing up Bush?

I bet you'll deny that, Yurtsie! "Oh, no, I'm so super-objective - I take righties and lefties to task all of the time!"

LOL LOL LOL

:clink:
Yaaaay. More "They did it too!"

I don't let my 6 year old get away with that sorry excuse.
 
Yaaaay. More "They did it too!"

I don't let my 6 year old get away with that sorry excuse.

LOL

Really? That's your issue? Yurtsie hops on the thread, makes a bee-line for one of my first responses - one where I was asked SPECIFICALLY about the Bush/Obama, Katrina/BP comparison - and proclaims that, in the course of that topic (again, about the Bush/Obama comparison), I'm supposed to point out that "Oh, and Roy Nagin sucked too."

But that's what you hone in on. Speaks much more about you than it does me. Specifically, it tells me that you didn't like being called "Beckocles" today.

I'll have to remember that.
 
Board police!

Yurtsie, Yurtsie, Yurtsie - you're just like bravo. Don't you know that the same could be said of you & bringing up Bush?

I bet you'll deny that, Yurtsie! "Oh, no, I'm so super-objective - I take righties and lefties to task all of the time!"

LOL LOL LOL

:clink:

translation:

i have an obsessed crush on yurt, so much that i have to lovingly call him my favorite kinky name of yurtsie over and over and over and over....oh...and btw...yurt is actual right, so i will just deflect with my usual bullshit rather than address any substance

LOL LOL LOL

:crybaby::crybaby:
 
LOL

Really? That's your issue? Yurtsie hops on the thread, makes a bee-line for one of my first responses - one where I was asked SPECIFICALLY about the Bush/Obama, Katrina/BP comparison - and proclaims that, in the course of that topic (again, about the Bush/Obama comparison), I'm supposed to point out that "Oh, and Roy Nagin sucked too."

But that's what you hone in on. Speaks much more about you than it does me. Specifically, it tells me that you didn't like being called "Beckocles" today.

I'll have to remember that.
Nah, I wish I was as financially successful as Beck. And while he's hyperbolic (from what I've seen) his opinions are not usually at odds with mine, sometime but not usually. I'm cool with it.

It does remind me of Herr Doktor though, he'd throw a fit when I called him that...

:D
 
We hear the talking heads telling us, the leak in the gulf is estimated at 60,000 barrels... 40,000 barrels... they reduced the flow by 20,000 barrels... per day. But do we really have a grasp of exactly how much oil we're talking about? A barrel of crude oil, is 42 u.s. gallons. In the most conservative estimates, there are approximately 1,700,000 gallons of crude spewing into the gulf daily...70,000 gallons per hour... 1,200 gallons per minute.... 20 gallons per second.

The EPA has prohibited several efforts to mitigate the oil...
The MMS has gone into CYA mode...
BP continues to scratch their heads...
BO has given several eloquent speeches...
Congress has held hearings...

But no one has stopped the oil... 1,200 gallons per minute... from spewing into the gulf! In fact, we are told by BP, it will be AUGUST before we can expect the oil flow to be stopped. AUGUST... two months from now... 100,000,000 gallons from now!

But the president is going to meet with the greatest minds, and they are going to talk about this, and discuss ways they may be able to help. He is going to appoint a panel to study this, and of course, BP will be held accountable and made to pay for cleaning this up... but can anyone clean this up? Will the Gulf of Mexico ever be the same? Will the sugar white sands of the gulf coast, ever be the same again?

Just last week you were saying it was cool because as much oil seaps out of the sea floor naturally every year.
 
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