Belligerent steward a hero?

Sammy Jankis

Sammy Jankis

Was it me?
Why is the media presenting this guy as a hero?

If a passenger did this he would probably be going to jail, but the fascists nazi controllers don't want that reality to be broadly considered, so they're making him into a hero, as the law will not be enforced on him, so the sheeple won't awaken.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Why is the media presenting this guy as a hero?

If a passenger did this he would probably be going to jail, but the fascists nazi controllers don't want that reality to be broadly considered, so they're making him into a hero, as the law will not be enforced on him, so the sheeple won't awaken.
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Didn't that steward fella go to jail?
 
NigelTufnel said:
Didn't that steward fella go to jail?
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Briefly. But he's faced now with possibly going to jail for seven years.


I believe he will get off, so there is not enough public outrage to get the law changed.

The media is shaping the meme to be "poor steward abused by passenger". All i have seen is stewards and stewardesses on a power trip. But the media will invert this reality, because the masses need to always be made to feel wrong.
 
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Folks like someone who flames out like that. He should have just decked the guy instead. Probably some oversized prick who took his luggage early because he thinks he's more important than the other passengers. That's what pepper spray is for.
 
This flight attendent is likely going to jail or at least spend a signifigant amount of time on probation, and likely he should...

But, I see why he is a hero.

So many people would love to tell there bosses to "take this job and shove it" these days. The economy is such that they cant, but to these people this guy is a hero. I have some measure of respect for the guy for listening to his gut and not putting up with shit anymore.
 
Jarod said:
This flight attendent is likely going to jail or at least spend a signifigant amount of time on probation, and likely he should...

But, I see why he is a hero.

So many people would love to tell there bosses to "take this job and shove it" these days. The economy is such that they cant, but to these people this guy is a hero. I have some measure of respect for the guy for listening to his gut and not putting up with shit anymore.
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I do too, actually. but I think if a passenger had done it, the media would not be hoping for deification.
 
He didn't tell his boss that Jarod; he whined to the passengers then risked the safety of others. If he had decked the guy or at least told him off I'd have some respect for him.

People get all nutsy at airports for some reason. Let me tell you a story from a similar situation an an airport.

My Dad was waiting for his bag at the return at Logan Airport one time, and a guy upstream of him grabs his bag and starts to walk away. So my Dad caught up to him, tapped him on the shoulder and said as polite as he could that the bag was his. The guy said no it wasn't then started to walk away, so my Dad grabbed his arm and told him to look at the tag. The guy does and sure enough it was my Dad's bag. So the guy flips him the bird.

Now you have to understand what happens next and why. In his generation, flipping the bird or telling someone to fuck off was one of the worst things you could do. It was considered an insult to your person, nearly on par with someone dissing your family. So instinctively my Dad grabs the guys middle finger, squeezes it, and it breaks.

The guy goes ape-shit and calls a cop, and my Dad waited around for that. The Cop came and asked both sides what happened, and the stories were similar enough, so he told the guy that he was lucky that's all that happened, and he wasn't going to put my Dad under arrest, basically "pound sand and hire a lawyer".
 
Southern Man said:
He didn't tell his boss that Jarod; he whined to the passengers then risked the safety of others. If he had decked the guy or at least told him off I'd have some respect for him.

People get all nutsy at airports for some reason. Let me tell you a story from a similar situation an an airport.

My Dad was waiting for his bag at the return at Logan Airport one time, and a guy upstream of him grabs his bag and starts to walk away. So my Dad caught up to him, tapped him on the shoulder and said as polite as he could that the bag was his. The guy said no it wasn't then started to walk away, so my Dad grabbed his arm and told him to look at the tag. The guy does and sure enough it was my Dad's bag. So the guy flips him the bird.

Now you have to understand what happens next and why. In his generation, flipping the bird or telling someone to fuck off was one of the worst things you could do. It was considered an insult to your person, nearly on par with someone dissing your family. So instinctively my Dad grabs the guys middle finger, squeezes it, and it breaks.

The guy goes ape-shit and calls a cop, and my Dad waited around for that. The Cop came and asked both sides what happened, and the stories were similar enough, so he told the guy that he was lucky that's all that happened, and he wasn't going to put my Dad under arrest, basically "pound sand and hire a lawyer".
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Your dad handled that exactly as I would have. Public discourtesy should be sanctioned and the person calling someone for their rudeness should not be sanctioned. I was in a crosswalk one time and a woman blew through it so close to be that I was able to throw a cup of coffee I had at her car and hit it. She called the cops and got a ticket for not yielding to pedestrians. I hate public rudeness.
 
Socrtease said:
Your dad handled that exactly as I would have. Public discourtesy should be sanctioned and the person calling someone for their rudeness should not be sanctioned. I was in a crosswalk one time and a woman blew through it so close to be that I was able to throw a cup of coffee I had at her car and hit it. She called the cops and got a ticket for not yielding to pedestrians. I hate public rudeness.
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No. His dad should have been arrested for assault. Rudeness is not illegal. And you're a lawyer? what a joke.
 
Resulting to violence should be sanctioned.

In some situations the sanction would be worth it.
 
Socrtease said:
Your dad handled that exactly as I would have. Public discourtesy should be sanctioned and the person calling someone for their rudeness should not be sanctioned. I was in a crosswalk one time and a woman blew through it so close to be that I was able to throw a cup of coffee I had at her car and hit it. She called the cops and got a ticket for not yielding to pedestrians. I hate public rudeness.
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There was an episode of "Men of a Certain Age" where that happened to one of the characters, he threw a coffee and the guy stopped and got out of the car. A big guy (of course) an "fast, steroid fast", and he chases the guy around the car and they stop with the smaller man on the drivers side and the big guy on the passenger side. The car was running and the passenger door locked, so the guy gets in and drives away with the steroid fast guy chasing him on foot. He goes up about a two blocks, gets out of the car, and while the guys about 50 feet away, breathing hard, he throws the keys onto the roof of an adjacent building.

Telling the story to his friends, they agreed that was an awesome way to handle "a Dick". :good4u:
 
Jarod said:
Resulting to violence should be sanctioned.

In some situations the sanction would be worth it.
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Sounds good.

One of the things i hate about modern society is that you can't smash someone's face in with a tyre iron for ticking you off.
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. His dad should have been arrested for assault. Rudeness is not illegal. And you're a lawyer? what a joke.
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YOu are right, rudeness is not illegal. But the public has the right to sanction it. Sometimes a violent retort to rudeness gets you arrested, but in my experience, juries forgive it. I walked a guy who busted a mans nose when the guy called his wife a whore. The jury refused to convict. They got to see the "victim" on the stand, my client and his wife. The verdict, "Some guys need their nose broken."
 
Socrtease said:
YOu are right, rudeness is not illegal. But the public has the right to sanction it. Sometimes a violent retort to rudeness gets you arrested, but in my experience, juries forgive it. I walked a guy who busted a mans nose when the guy called his wife a whore. The jury refused to convict. They got to see the "victim" on the stand, my client and his wife. The verdict, "Some guys need their nose broken."
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That's vigilante corporal punishment. The judge should have set aside the vigilante verdict and put the perpetrator away.
 
Socteaser's right, and GreenBoy is wrong. Juries decide on if an assault is an assault or not. In NC weve had juries nullify a murder conviction because the deceased was a repeated child molester, caught in the act by a parent who dealt swift justice. As I recall a jury commented that the man 'needed killin'.
 
Southern Man said:
Socteaser's right, and GreenBoy is wrong. Juries decide on if an assault is an assault or not. In NC weve had juries nullify a murder conviction because the deceased was a repeated child molester, caught in the act by a parent who dealt swift justice. As I recall a jury commented that the man 'needed killin'.
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You have your facts all wrong.
 
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