Bernie Madoff and Donald Trump's Bond Amounts

It still took up part of the market, You think if Trump had not taken the loan, Deutsche would not have found another borrower?

Trump should be entitled to cheat, while others are not?
The other lender may have paid them back, too, while Donald defaulted on $290 million.
 
You are delusional.

People leave NY in droves every evening after arriving in droves every morning. It's called a commute. Something you probably have no clue about.

No, the delusional one here is you, for I believe there were upwards of 600,000 people leaving New York last year and guess what, most of them headed to
red states like Florida and Texas, and Tennessee etc. You think they left because it was so safe to live in the left's dis-management and lawless leadership roles.
Crime runs rampant in N.Y.C., and its getting worse with biden's illegals causing much of it. And no one, and I mean no one is going to want to buy real estate
in N.Y. after witnessing this sham case against the best and most successful real estate owner in N.Y., and in case you missed it, that person is of course the
great Donald Trump. Trump got all his wealth by being a successful businessman and real estate developer, whereas, biden got his millions by scamming his
pay to play through his crooked son to get millions from our foreign adversaries.
 
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Wrong, read the order. Or continue to stay ignorant, its safer that way, you can keep your current incorrect value system.

I have read it. It says exactly, if not in the exact same words what I stated. Engoron admits in his order that there was no victim or loss but that Trump's actions (the way he filled out the loan paperwork) could be repeated in the future and possibly create a victim and loss and therefore Trump has to cough up half-a-billion to the state because his potential future crimes must be stopped.
 
It still took up part of the market, You think if Trump had not taken the loan, Deutsche would not have found another borrower?

Trump should be entitled to cheat, while others are not?

So? What if Trump didn't take out those loans and do the developments? What if in that case nobody else bothered to either? How much loss would the market suffer from not having those developments made and the interest on those loans paid?

You see, your argument cuts both ways...
 
No, the delusional one here is you, for I believe there were upwards of 600,000 people leaving New York last year and guess what, most of them headed to
red states like Florida and Texas, and Tennessee etc. You think they left because it was so safe to live in the left's dis-management and lawless leadership roles.
Crime runs rampant in N.Y.C., and its getting worse with biden's illegals causing much of it. And no one, and I mean no one is going to want to buy real estate
in N.Y. after witnessing this sham case against the best and most successful real estate owner in N.Y., and in case you missed it, that person is of course the
great Donald Trump. Trump got all his wealth by being a successful businessman and real estate developer, whereas, biden got his millions by scamming his
pay to play through his crooked son to get millions from our foreign adversaries.

Do you have evidence to back up your fantasies?
What do you think is most? More NYers moved to New Jersey than moved to Florida or Texas or Tennessee according to the Census Bureau.

You don't seem to understand the data since almost 500,000 people left Texas to move to another state and almost 500,000 people left Florida to move to another state and fewer than 550,000 left New York to move to another state.
More people left NY to move to Connecticut or Pennsylvania than moved to Texas.
More people moved from NY to CT, PA, and NJ then moved to FL, TX, and NC. 170,580 to 3 blue states compared to 147,115 to 3 red states.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/...raphic-mobility/state-to-state-migration.html

Trump didn't get all his wealth by being a successful businessman. He inherited all his wealth and then did worse buying real estate than if he would have invested in the stock market. How stupid do you have to be to think Trump is a self made man?
 
Bernie Madoff: Bond $10 Million
Donald Trump: Bond $455 Million

Two terms have the word "bond" in them, but that does not make them the same thing.

Madoff needed bail of $10 million. trump has gotten bail of $0. So trump has been better treated there.

Madoff was offered no delay in asset seizure after verdict, and in fact had his assets frozen before the verdict. Madoff was forced to plea bargain, which cutoff any appeal, or any attempt to shield assets. trump has been allowed to place a reduced bond for appeal. Again trump has been treated much better there.
 
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