OK. And Republicans care more about getting tax cuts for the rich than they do about helping the unemployed. Otherwise, the extension would have passed already.
Bernie Sanders Filibustering Tax Compromise
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OK. And Republicans care more about getting tax cuts for the rich than they do about helping the unemployed. Otherwise, the extension would have passed already.
Just Plain Politics,
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/419?t=e1
President Obama is right about one thing -- Republicans in Congress are holding the middle class hostage.
We have a $13.8 trillion national debt, a collapsing middle class and the most unequal distribution of wealth of any major country. With all this in mind, Republicans in Congress say they will block tax cuts to the middle class and block unemployment benefits to more than two million families unless the President gives huge tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires.
Their behavior is morally bankrupt. It is reprehensible.
But instead of challenging the Republicans for their absurd demands and their outrageous tactics, the President gave them virtually everything they wanted.
I cannot and will not support this deal. I will do everything I can to uphold the promise made to the American people to end the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
Join me and my friends at Democracy for America today and sign our pledge calling on Congress to reject this deal. http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/419?t=e1
One of the most underreported parts of this deal is a cut to the Social Security payroll tax. In just one year, over $120 billion of revenue will be cut from Social Security under the President's compromise plan, weakening the program and virtually guaranteeing benefit cuts in the future.
Make no mistake about it. Social Security has not added one dime to the national debt and this cut will only embolden Republican attempts to privatize the program and increase the age of retirement. Social Security is a vital safety net for all Americans and a cornerstone of our commitment to protect the middle class.
We are not alone in standing against this compromise. Republicans are holding the middle class hostage and the American people know it. I come from a small state and yesterday my office received more than 1,000 calls on this issue, with over 90% of them in opposition to this deal.
Last night, thousands of DFA members joined me on DFA Live where we had a lively discussion on this issue. One thing was clear to me during that call -- DFA members nationwide want Democrats to stop this deal and fight for the middle class, working people, senior citizens and the unemployed while making sure that millionaires and billionaires are not given massive tax breaks.
Make sure Congress gets the message -- Join the fight now and sign the petition opposing this so-called "compromise."
Thank you,
-Bernie
Bernie Sanders
U.S. Senator
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/419?t=e1
President Obama is right about one thing -- Republicans in Congress are holding the middle class hostage.
We have a $13.8 trillion national debt, a collapsing middle class and the most unequal distribution of wealth of any major country. With all this in mind, Republicans in Congress say they will block tax cuts to the middle class and block unemployment benefits to more than two million families unless the President gives huge tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires.
Their behavior is morally bankrupt. It is reprehensible.
But instead of challenging the Republicans for their absurd demands and their outrageous tactics, the President gave them virtually everything they wanted.
I cannot and will not support this deal. I will do everything I can to uphold the promise made to the American people to end the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
Join me and my friends at Democracy for America today and sign our pledge calling on Congress to reject this deal. http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/419?t=e1
One of the most underreported parts of this deal is a cut to the Social Security payroll tax. In just one year, over $120 billion of revenue will be cut from Social Security under the President's compromise plan, weakening the program and virtually guaranteeing benefit cuts in the future.
Make no mistake about it. Social Security has not added one dime to the national debt and this cut will only embolden Republican attempts to privatize the program and increase the age of retirement. Social Security is a vital safety net for all Americans and a cornerstone of our commitment to protect the middle class.
We are not alone in standing against this compromise. Republicans are holding the middle class hostage and the American people know it. I come from a small state and yesterday my office received more than 1,000 calls on this issue, with over 90% of them in opposition to this deal.
Last night, thousands of DFA members joined me on DFA Live where we had a lively discussion on this issue. One thing was clear to me during that call -- DFA members nationwide want Democrats to stop this deal and fight for the middle class, working people, senior citizens and the unemployed while making sure that millionaires and billionaires are not given massive tax breaks.
Make sure Congress gets the message -- Join the fight now and sign the petition opposing this so-called "compromise."
Thank you,
-Bernie
Bernie Sanders
U.S. Senator
What else can they claim! Everything is hinged on the tax cuts to wealthy.
Prager was saying on his show this morning that the English language is the only language that has the word "earn" in it and they were talking about welfare abusers, what they never talk about are the working poor! People who have two or three jobs in a household just to make ends meet, Prager wanted to go in and take away welfare recipients TVs!
Does he realize that some military families have to be on food stamps?
They shove these facts under the rug and ignore the majority of the poor in America!
http://www.ehow.com/how_5053782_apply-stamps-online-military-families.html
Prager was saying on his show this morning that the English language is the only language that has the word "earn" in it and they were talking about welfare abusers, what they never talk about are the working poor! People who have two or three jobs in a household just to make ends meet, Prager wanted to go in and take away welfare recipients TVs!
Does he realize that some military families have to be on food stamps?
They shove these facts under the rug and ignore the majority of the poor in America!
http://www.ehow.com/how_5053782_apply-stamps-online-military-families.html
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and they were stupid to do so...but in the end, they agreed to the UB benefits and now the dems are holding it up
are you following the bouncing ball nigel?
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Is anyone else shocked that Midcan has a message for us from Sen. Sanders?
I wonder how Prager "earns" his money, ahahahahahaha, the con artist!
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the republicans have agreed to the UB benefits, it is the dems holding the middle class "hostage"....
First, I was responding to SF's post suggesting that the Republicans support the unemployment benefit extension. They don't. They support the compromise.
Second, you're still a hostage taker if you get paid your ransom and release the hostage.
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you're right...but you may want to tell sanders that
“You can call what I am doing today whatever you want,” he said. “You can it call it a filibuster, you can call it a very long speech.”
yeah, he is not a democrat despite voting with them 100% of the time, caucusing with them etc....sure thing nigel
I'm sure Sanders has a much fuller grasp on what he's doing than you do.
yeah, he is not a democrat despite voting with them 100% of the time, caucusing with them etc....sure thing nigel
Right. He's an independent, not a Democrat.
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tff....when the pubs hold up the bill...they're hostage takers...now they've released the so called hostage, but the dems have now taken the hostage, but you and you fellow libs won't call it that, despite the FACT that are doing the exact same thing the pubs did a week ago
its amazing how intellectually dishonest this whole bullshit has become
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i'm a socialist, notwithstanding the fact, i never vote with them
I'm simply using the analogy that you personally adopted as your own. And I've already said that if we are using that analogy then, yes, everyone involved is a hostage taker. It was just the other night, you lying twat.
But you know what, fuck it, the Democrats aren't hostage takers. They're just refusing to pay the ransom.
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i have not personally adopted it, i use it to show the hypocrisy....like i said before, i find the statement ridiculous and taking the usual rhetoric to another low...
and you still can't admit the dems are holding UB benefits up....its amazing how much you will ignore in order to apologize for your party....
FACT: the gop will vote to extend UB benefits
FACT: the dems now will not vote for the bill that would include UB benefits
but somehow...its still the pubs holding it up...mind boggling. while the pubs were stupid to hang their hat on keeping taxes for the very wealthy at 35%, the dems are equally stupid to hold up benefits for wanting to bring the uber wealthy back to a 3% higher tax rate....
i don't always support UB benefits, but i'm fairly certain if they aren't extended now, the economy will spiral down
I didn't say the Republicans are holding up anything. I said the Republicans are holding the hostage and are demanding a ransom, which may or may not be paid.
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so the dems aren't holding a hostage? thats cute nigel...the pubs are hostage takers, but the dems are just the hostage negotiators....
i've seen apologists for the dems, but this takes the cake nigel
FACT: both parties are using the tax on the wealthy as the "hostage" in your analogy
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How many of those bills were compromises that gave both sides a bit of what they want? It's not the filibustering that is objectionable per se, but WHAT is being filibustered - to wit, one of the first actual genuine compromises to come about since the democrats took over congress.
Funny how the democrats view compromise as "STFU and do it our way". And their definition of bi-partisan: "STFU and do it our way." And, to change things up a bit, their definition of reaching across the aisle: "Do it our way and STFU".
It's also amazing how all the whining about the unfairness of filibuster goes down the tubes when it benefits the views of the hardcore left. (not really because it is well know the left is comprised of pure hypocrisy)
Good Luck
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Somehow it is not surprising that someone like yourself cannot seem to grasp what a compromise in legislation is.
Here is how compromise works:
Hey, if you support this part that you don't like, we'll support that part that we don't like.
In short, in supporting the compromise, the republicans AGREED to SUPPORT UB extensions IF the democrats in turn support cross-the-board extension fo the 2001/2003 tax cuts.
So here we have the republicans agreeing to a compromise - and a fairly significant one at that. IF it passes, republicans get cross-the board extension of the 2001/2003 tax cuts. But to get that much, they agree to the extension lasting only 2 more years, at which time the issue will need to be revisited yet again, AND they agree to vote for (ie: SUPPORT you ignorant twit) another extension of federal unemployment benefits.
On the other side of the aisle, the democrats, whose ONLY compromise in the whole deal is a paltry 2-year extension on taxes for those making above $250K, would rather fuck over the middle class and poor, whom they CLAIM to represent, than retain current tax levels for TWO WHOLE YEARS.
The excuse that they want to tax the rich more just does not cut it when the middle class, people barely making ends meet now, could well see their paychecks drop as much as $300/mo (guess what that will do to the economy?) while long term unemployed are being told, essentially, to suck it up. (or is it just "suck it"?, or maybe "fuck you guys, we have rich people who need higher taxes!")
Now, if they were SMART they'd offer to make the 2001/2003 tax cuts permanent to get republican support for more than just the UB extensions, then use the political capital gained from making the cuts permanent (LOTS of middle class independents out there watching this fiasco) to address tax rates on upper income brackets at a later date.
But "smart" and "liberal democrat" cannot be associated with each other while keeping a straight face.
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