Bernie wins New Hampshire!

Well, I don't think you can necessarily separate the two. People's income is directly related to trade policies. You can't really talk about one without the other. Pooling together everyone's income in order to have access to healthcare that is free at the point of service saves everyone money, including businesses.

The average business pays an average of $15K per year per employee to sponsor coverage, with the employee paying an average of $5K.

Any tax increase for M4A is more than offset by the need to no longer pay deductibles, premiums, copays, coinsurance, drug costs, hospitals, ambulance rides, etc.

Under Bernie's plan, one of the funding proposals is a 4% flat tax on income. The average income in this country is around $57K. So...4% of $57K = $2,280.

Now, we know that the average worker spends $5K on their health care.

So is $5,000 > or < $2,280?

And it's not just individuals who save...businesses do too. Remember when I said the business pays an average of $15K/employee? Well, for a business of 50 employees, that's $750,000. Under Bernie's plan, one of the funding mechanisms is that businesses would instead pay 7.5% of their income -not revenues, but income- instead. Now, the average income for a business of 50 employees is about $100K. So, 7.5% of $100K is just $7,500. Is $7,500 > or < $750,000?

So since the business now saves $742,500 a year, it can use that money to give every one of its 50 employees a $14,000 raise, if it chooses.

They just don't want Blacks and Mexicans to have free healthcare.


They will pay the double to make sure that doesn't happen
 
No it isn't. Medicare for All has a higher approval rating than Trump. Progressives were dragged along with Clinton, and she lost. So why repeat the same mistakes? Have we learned nothing?

Moderation, by definition isn't excitement or enthusiasm...the only way to beat Trump is to get voters excited and enthusiastic which increases turnout.





I think you're just using "globalism" here to be a nebulous, wide-parameter thing. Trump is a globalist. Literally, he's a globalist as he has businesses all over the world who license his brand to put on their buildings. So while you say Trump isn't a globalist, I ask why then does he care so much about his global brand? Going so far as to use it to extort things from foreign countries?




It's hard to imagine how Medicare for All or free public colleges are "totalitarianism" and abusing your authority to meddle in the affairs of the court system to give your guy a break there, isn't.

Keep schooling them


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More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections

More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections
by Jeffrey M. Jones
More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections
Story Highlights

61% say they are better off than three years ago
No more than 50% have said this in past election cycles
Evaluations of U.S. world standing mostly similar to past elections

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sixty-one percent of Americans say they are better off than they were three years ago, a higher percentage than in prior election years when an incumbent president was running. In the 1992, 1996 and 2004 election cycles, exactly half said they were better off. In three separate measures during the 2012 election cycle, an average of 45% said they were better off.
Americans' Assessments of Their Personal Situation Comparatively Better Than in Prior Presidential Incumbent Re-Election Years
Are you better off than you were three years ago, or not?
Yes, better off No, not better off As well off (vol.)
% % %
2020 61 36 3
2012 45 52 3
2004 50 42 8
1996 50 34 15
1992 50 38 11
(vol.) = volunteered response; Data for 1992, 1996 and 2020 based on poll conducted in January of the election year. Data for 2012 based on average of three polls conducted in October 2011, December 2011 and August 2012. Data for 2004 based on an October 2003 poll.
galluppoll.com

This is what wins elections.
 
Why do you want to work with racist?

First of all, I don't think all Republicans are racists, or that they all view every issue through the lens of race.

Second of all, if anything is to get accomplished, it requires working with those you might not like or agree with on everything.

This used to be a matter of common sense back when common sense used to exist in society.

We tried BoThSiDeS with Obama and Clinton. All it did was make Conservatives more intransigent. In what world would the Republicans, who just covered for Trump and defended the illegitimate attacks against Joe Biden, ever want to work with Democrats?

Are we all suffering amnesia when it comes to the last 10 years?

Like they passed Obama's proposals?

Oh right, Conservatives didn't.

So...in what world would Conservatives, who spent the last 10 years digging into fascism, ever reach across the aisle to work on Democratic proposals?

Do we not remember what happened the last 10 years?????

So according to you, we might as well not vote for anyone.

Because what you just said certainly doesn't make the case for Sanders.

Actually, it's a better reason to NOT elect old BS.

Bloomberg is a serious businessman (unlike Trump who is a fake, pretend one) who backs Democrat positions, but who Republicans can relate to.

He'd have a better chance of successfully dealing with them than any progressive socialist like ol' BS.
 
More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections

More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections
by Jeffrey M. Jones
More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections
Story Highlights

61% say they are better off than three years ago
No more than 50% have said this in past election cycles
Evaluations of U.S. world standing mostly similar to past elections

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sixty-one percent of Americans say they are better off than they were three years ago, a higher percentage than in prior election years when an incumbent president was running. In the 1992, 1996 and 2004 election cycles, exactly half said they were better off. In three separate measures during the 2012 election cycle, an average of 45% said they were better off.
Americans' Assessments of Their Personal Situation Comparatively Better Than in Prior Presidential Incumbent Re-Election Years
Are you better off than you were three years ago, or not?
Yes, better off No, not better off As well off (vol.)
% % %
2020 61 36 3
2012 45 52 3
2004 50 42 8
1996 50 34 15
1992 50 38 11
(vol.) = volunteered response; Data for 1992, 1996 and 2020 based on poll conducted in January of the election year. Data for 2012 based on average of three polls conducted in October 2011, December 2011 and August 2012. Data for 2004 based on an October 2003 poll.
galluppoll.com

This is what wins elections.
 
First of all, I don't think all Republicans are racists, or that they all view every issue through the lens of race.

Second of all, if anything is to get accomplished, it requires working with those you might not like or agree with on everything.

This used to be a matter of common sense back when common sense used to exist in society.





So according to you, we might as well not vote for anyone.

Because what you just said certainly doesn't make the case for Sanders.

Actually, it's a better reason to NOT elect old BS.

Bloomberg is a serious businessman (unlike Trump who is a fake, pretend one) who backs Democrat positions, but who Republicans can relate to.

He'd have a better chance of successfully dealing with them than any progressive socialist like ol' BS.

lol. you're so confused. you think bloomberg can get the voters out?

you're mentally lacklustre.
 
get bernie to go back to his anti globalist ways, and then support him. you will win. of course, you idjits innoculated yourselves against reason.
 
I'm glad you "enjoyed" it;)

Most Americans seem to be convinced 'their' health care system is the 'Best in the World'. Here was an international tour that showed what other countries had. France was the most extravagant. Their system pays for home care and nursing while you recuperate. Doing the Laundry and Cooking. :)

"The French health care system is generally recognised as offering one of the best, services of public health care in the world. Above all, it is a system that works, provides universal cover, and is a system that is strongly defended by virtually everyone in France.
The health care system in France is made up of a fully-integrated network of public hospitals, private hospitals, doctors and other medical service providers. It is a universal service providing health care for every citizen, irrespective of wealth, age or social status."
https://about-france.com/health-care.htm

"France / USA
People in France, who have lived with their national health service system for all or most of their lives, and know first hand how well it works, have been very perplexed by the passions aroused in the United States by Obamacare. They have even greated difficulty understanding how Americans could elect as Obama's successor Donald Trump, a man who pledged to abolish universal health care in the USA. Even the most conservative forces in French life support the national health service and have difficulty understanding why some people in the USA imagine that an obligatory health insurance scheme for all could be a bad thing."

:laugh:
 
basically you fucked the nation with globalist hillary poison in 2016.

and you're on course to do it again. donny deutche admitted he would vote for trump over warren or bernie, morning joe made him take it back.
 
of course you can separate the two, idiotstick. you just don't want to.

in fact, you posture about like an idiot pretending totalitarianism is the panacea to every problem.

Hard to imagine how Medicare for All or the Green New Deal is "totalitarianism" while we have a President who is firing witnesses out of revenge, meddling in the sentencing of one of his co-conspirators, while also profiting off his bedbug resorts and roach motels at the taxpayers' expense, deporting immigrants, inciting hatred, fighting to take health care away from people, and calling Nazis "very fine people".
 
get bernie to go back to his anti globalist ways, and then support him. you will win. of course, you idjits innoculated yourselves against reason.

How is Bernie a "globalist"?

Do you mean he's Jewish?

Well, he's not going to be able to get rid of his Jewish identity.

So suck it up, buttercup.
 
Medicare for all means Medicare for none.

Illegals (non-citizens) have not earned Medicare.

They have earned deportation.

It is the law.
 
First of all, I don't think all Republicans are racists, or that they all view every issue through the lens of race.

Second of all, if anything is to get accomplished, it requires working with those you might not like or agree with on everything.

This used to be a matter of common sense back when common sense used to exist in society.





So according to you, we might as well not vote for anyone.

Because what you just said certainly doesn't make the case for Sanders.

Actually, it's a better reason to NOT elect old BS.

Bloomberg is a serious businessman (unlike Trump who is a fake, pretend one) who backs Democrat positions, but who Republicans can relate to.

He'd have a better chance of successfully dealing with them than any progressive socialist like ol' BS.

All their policies are racist to the core.

No need to further discuss. You don't believe shit stinks when it comes to republicans.

But you think all Blacks want free shit.

You have been shown video of bloomberg being racist as fuck but you ignore it.

Just vote republican and leave the dem party to the progressives.
 
basically you fucked the nation with globalist hillary poison in 2016.

and you're on course to do it again. donny deutche admitted he would vote for trump over warren or bernie, morning joe made him take it back.

Who fucking cares what Donnie Deutche has to say? We don't need Donnie's vote to beat Trump. For every Dumbell Donnie, there are 2-3 non-voters who can be reached far easier.

The strategy shouldn't be to fight for a small sliver of the electorate pie...the strategy should be to make the electorate pie bigger.

I never understood the sense it made to try and convince bad faith actors to vote for someone they have told you, repeatedly, they wouldn't accept no matter who it is.

Again, were we not paying attention to the last 10 years? Conservatives have made it crystal clear they have no interest in voting for any Democrat.

So fuck those people and let's concentrate on turning out just 5% of the 95,000,000 who didn't vote in 2016. That's only 4.8M new voters to get to the polls, which is a much easier task than compromising your values and vision to try and lure people to vote for you who have said, flatly through their words and actions the last 10 years, that they won't under any circumstance.
 
Hard to imagine how Medicare for All or the Green New Deal is "totalitarianism" while we have a President who is firing witnesses out of revenge, meddling in the sentencing of one of his co-conspirators, while also profiting off his bedbug resorts and roach motels at the taxpayers' expense, deporting immigrants, inciting hatred, fighting to take health care away from people, and calling Nazis "very fine people".

As soon as you actually work for a living we can talk, until them keep sponging off mom!
 
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