Bible Banned as a Dirty Book in Utah

Why wouldn't a Bible be in the library? Same for the Quran, Torah, Tibetan Book of the Dead, etc? Maybe only college libraries because of all the sex and violence in the Bible?

Separation of church and state immediately comes to mind. Isn't that the mantra you heathens used to ban school prayer? And every one of those books is available on Amazon, all but the Tibetan Book of the Dead, for less than 10 bucks. Sex and violence in the Bible? Doesn't come close to the explicit crap these parents have been reading aloud in school board meetings for the past two years.

The irony here is that my 1 school year in catholic school (8th grade), put me academically ahead of my peers when I returned to public high schools, that's 8th grade with daily school prayer and a one-hour mass on Thursdays.
 
Separation of church and state immediately comes to mind. Isn't that the mantra you heathens used to ban school prayer? And every one of those books is available on Amazon, all but the Tibetan Book of the Dead, for less than 10 bucks. Sex and violence in the Bible? Doesn't come close to the explicit crap these parents have been reading aloud in school board meetings for the past two years.

School prayer was never banned at public schools.

What was prohibited were teachers, as public employees, leading class in prayer.

Kids can pray as much as they want with friends or individually at recess, lunch break, between classes, etc.

That's the same reason a bible or Qur'an in the highschool library isn't an issue. No teacher or other public employee is supposed to use it to lead classes in bible study.
 
Of the three Semitic-sourced religions, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, they seem to get less offensive as they get older.

Islam makes theocracy mandatory.
Christianity pretends to "render unto Caesar," but really doesn't, especially in Middle America.
At least in these modern times, Judaism does the least proselytizing--virtually none, in fact--
and with its quaint tribalism, seems to cause the fewest problems.

Still, with no indications that religious faith is a requisite for moral conduct,
I find it hard to see where it has a positive role.

I've always kind of liked the idea that there will be consequences for truly evil people. Hitler and Stalin deserve to be in the ninth circle of hell.

In one sense you are probably right; we don't need religion because as a human civilization we have just inherited and adopted many of the ethical frameworks and moral imperatives of the major religions traditions, and just stripped away the religious language and context..
 
A monotheistic "God" is very much a concept of western religions.

Saying that only 14 percent of Chinese believe in God is a western imperialist bias and perspective.

A creater God does not figure prominently into the major East Asian religions.

While I know a little about Asian religions, your comment prompted me to "Pull a Perry" and Google Pacific culture religions.
The idea of animism was interesting, along with the concept that people can change supernatural powers.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Polynesia/Religion
Polynesian belief systems emphasized animism, a perspective in which all things, animate and inanimate, were believed to be endowed to a greater or lesser degree with sacred supernatural power. That power, known among Polynesians as mana, could be nullified by various human actions, and many of the region’s tapu (“prohibitions” or “taboos”) were intended to prevent such behaviours.

As is typical of animist cultures, religious concerns permeated all aspects of life. Polynesian chiefs had great mana—so great, in fact, that in some societies, if a commoner touched the chief’s shadow, only that person’s death could compensate for the injury to the chief’s mana. In much of Polynesia it is still considered to be in very poor taste to step over a person’s legs, pass one’s hand over a person’s head, or stand with one’s head higher than that of a person of high rank, because these actions are believed to sap a person’s mana.

Women had great mana, the evidence of which was their ability to reproduce. Many tapu were created to ensure the mutual protection of women’s mana and the mana of other people and objects. In the Marquesas, for example, a tapu prohibited women from entering canoes under normal conditions because their mana and that of the canoe would compete. Men had lesser mana and needed to protect it carefully; in many societies, men preparing for war or other hazardous or demanding undertakings had to go through a period of purification—eating only certain foods and often going into seclusion to protect their powers from defilement. Some chants and songs were so sacred that every syllable had to be pronounced correctly. The penalty for major violations of these tapu was often death.
 
While I know a little about Asian religions, your comment prompted me to "Pull a Perry" and Google Pacific culture religions.
The idea of animism was interesting, along with the concept that people can change supernatural powers.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Polynesia/Religion
good info!

That's not pulling a Perry because you are consistent in citing your sources, rather than passing it off as your own ideas!

I know next to zero about Polynesian religions, but I do have the sense that animism is widespread across Africa and among the indigenous Americadnsy. I once read something about John Lame Deer, who is reputed to be an eminent native American animist shaman
 
I've always kind of liked the idea that there will be consequences for truly evil people. Hitler and Stalin deserve to be in the ninth circle of hell.

In one sense you are probably right; we don't need religion because as a human civilization we have just inherited and adopted many of the ethical frameworks and moral imperatives of the major religions traditions, and just stripped away the religious language and context..

Through the selection of Paul's books for the Bible, the early church leaders focus upon the concept of such punishment for non-believers and/or evil people. After all, if there was no punishment, then why not do whatever the fuck we wanted?

IMHO, those who choose evil, specifically intentionally harming others, diminish themselves. If life is seen as the progression of a child from K through 12, like a teenager who believes what happens in HS is important enough to kill others or themselves, people would be foolish to consider that there is something more to existence.
 
Going after poster's fathers now, you fucking pathetic degenerate scum-sucking coward?

If you were as smart as you believe yourself to be, Arbie, you'd see there's a reason for Fredo's behavior as an adult just like there's a reason for your behavior.
 
No one has banned a book


Books are not banned

Banned means u cant buy one for your kid


Link to a book u cant buy for your kid!

You sound just like the Lefties whining that their attacks on guns are not "banning guns".

See, vols? Your neo-Nazis and Lefties really are just alike! :thup:
 
Separation of church and state immediately comes to mind. Isn't that the mantra you heathens used to ban school prayer? And every one of those books is available on Amazon, all but the Tibetan Book of the Dead, for less than 10 bucks.

Sex and violence in the Bible? Doesn't come close to the explicit crap these parents have been reading aloud in school board meetings for the past two years.

The irony here is that my 1 school year in catholic school (8th grade), put me academically ahead of my peers when I returned to public high schools, that's 8th grade with daily school prayer and a one-hour mass on Thursdays.

Pushing one religion over another would be a violation of church and state, but teaching about the world's religions is educational. Just don't show favoritism.

Your bias is noted.

How would you make public schools better?
 
You sound just like the Lefties whining that their attacks on guns are not "banning guns".

See, vols? Your neo-Nazis and Lefties really are just alike! :thup:

not the same

gun nuts want to ban the AR15 meaning u cant buy one


name one book that is banned and u cant buy it
 
not the same

gun nuts want to ban the AR15 meaning u cant buy one


name one book that is banned and u cant buy it

Like a Lefty, you are talking degrees.

All banning is bad. I support age-appropriate, but banning is wrong no matter how you slice it.
 
Like a Lefty, you are talking degrees.

All banning is bad. I support age-appropriate, but banning is wrong no matter how you slice it.

what book has been banned and u now cant buy it

link just one that is banned by any US State that u can not buy...and i wont post for 30 days and if u cant u dont post for 30 days

deal?.....yes or no


no such thing as a banned book
 
Through the selection of Paul's books for the Bible, the early church leaders focus upon the concept of such punishment for non-believers and/or evil people. After all, if there was no punishment, then why not do whatever the fuck we wanted?

IMHO, those who choose evil, specifically intentionally harming others, diminish themselves. If life is seen as the progression of a child from K through 12, like a teenager who believes what happens in HS is important enough to kill others or themselves, people would be foolish to consider that there is something more to existence.
There has to be some universal ethical framework humans generally agree on, and historically that came from the religious tradition.

I think most major world religions maintain that there is a price to be paid for wrong actions that are contrary the way of heaven, to T'ien Tao, to the will of Allah. That might be fantasy, but it's a tempting concept to hold.
 
what book has been banned and u now cant buy it

link just one that is banned by any US State that u can not buy...and i wont post for 30 days and if u cant u dont post for 30 days

deal?.....yes or no


no such thing as a banned book

All you want, just like AKs and ARs. W00t! "You" meaning any American legal to buy one. Not felonious scumbags.

The fact you were compelled to use size 7 font is interesting.
 
There has to be some universal ethical framework humans generally agree on, and historically that came from the religious tradition.

I think most major world religions maintain that there is a price to be paid for wrong actions that are contrary the way of heaven, to T'ien Tao, to the will of Allah. That might be fantasy, but it's a tempting concept to hold.

Agreed upon or died out. Tribes that condone mass murder and rape of its members don't last long.

No one knows for sure about the afterlife, but we can certainly figure out the best way to get along.
 
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