Biden calls for more 'economic intercourse' around the world

[Dutch Uncle]

STFU everybody except corporation and the filthy rich pay taxes including the poor.
it's a racist right wing white man lie that the poor don't pay taxes.

the lie originated when the slaves were freed and the racist white man said Blacks didn't pay taxes. It's why they have turned white america against government.

The poor pay more taxes than the rich........you stupid fuck.

I'm guessing you aren't invited to very many birthday parties.

 

[Truth Detector]

You'll have to write that in crayons.

Wrong rapist.

"So last night my wife and I were having sexual congress, and ....

Interrupts..."I'm happy you have a sex life, but I'd appreciate it if you'd please keep our legislature out of this!"

What's hilarious is when amatuer, armchair policy "experts" get uppity enough to assume they know more than a former 36 year US Senator and two term VP.
Too bad you didn't get it when you posted the thread.
Funny how someone who contorts himself like a pretzel to defend every idiotic verbal gaffe that comes out of Trump's ass via his mouth is suddenly so critical of grammatical choices by someone else.
Biden assumed he was talking to adults.

Still not as ridiculous as Nuking Hurricanes & Injecting Bleach.

Ladies and gentlemen, the above example of the kind of videos retards post on YouTube was brought to you by a retard who posts on political forums.
It has become all too evident that retards are rampant on the internet.

Here you go, IMBECILE....

Or maybe your "2 dollah, G.I." wife.

Does Gary Glitter tip you well for hooking him up?

You should pay a psychiatrist to find out why your filthy little mind is always in the gutter.

If you clean the shit out of your ears and pay attention,

Your pervert fantasies don't reflect the real world.

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Should he have said "Covfefe"? "unpresidented act"? "Honered to serve"?

But when you say you're "pretty good at reading between the lines", what you're really saying is that you're pretty good at purposely misinterpreting things to fit your biased, preconceived notions.

Why don't you just go meet him at the usual motel you two hook up at.

You're obviously in some kind of heat for him.

What's specious is you bringing up a straw man argument of Vietnam in a post that doesn't mention it.

Be kind to Trump. He used to be at least as smart as Eric but time, mental illness and a nasty Adderall habit have taken their toll.

LOL. Just another reason to think this guy is your daddy:

Hey Opie Dopey! Is there a reason for your sudden incessant, ostentatious, and continuous consternation of Joe Biden?

GETTIN' SKEERED' MAYBE? BLAHAHAHAHA!

Well you poor thang' you!

Quit posting gifs of yourself.

Interesting, but expected response.

And now, the context; you really one sad, pathetic mentally retarded, droll, boorish thread trolling asshole you know that?

 

[Truth Detector]

I'm guessing you aren't invited to very many birthday parties.

I'm guessing you're the life of the party. #STFUtroll

 

[AProudLefty]

And now, the context; you really one sad, pathetic mentally retarded, droll, boorish thread trolling asshole you know that?

 

[dukkha]

It's a matter of whether China takes a financial hit will stop them or it chooses to sacrifice short term profit for long term power.

I am trying to understand this..

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And now, the context; you really one sad, pathetic mentally retarded, droll, boorish thread trolling asshole you know that?

Wow. That must have been quite challenging for you to do. Congrats!

I'm guessing you're the life of the party. #STFUtroll

I am. Sorry if my comment to TTQ64 struck a nerve with you. No doubt you and her could commiserate the next time you're not invited to a party. You'd be a virtual couple of racists who hate each other.

STFU everybody except corporation and the filthy rich pay taxes including the poor.
it's a racist right wing white man lie that the poor don't pay taxes.

the lie originated when the slaves were freed and the racist white man said Blacks didn't pay taxes. It's why they have turned white america against government.

The poor pay more taxes than the rich........you stupid fuck.

I'm guessing you aren't invited to very many birthday parties.

 

[Micawber]

Priority (1) Give money to people, they will spend (2) give money to small (20-500 employees) business successful employers for salaries only (3) government takeover of large strategic industries until crisis over.
Large businesses should already have 3 years financial safety net for this eventuality and I have little sympathy for those that don't, if you need gubmint bailout, then gubmint is NOW your
majority shareholder.

No money to fake small business sole proprietorships other than (1) above. Not making a bad loan to a scam artist calling himself a business while sitting on couch selling ebay.

 

[Nomad]

Dude, I think you are missing the point. It's a matter of whether China takes a financial hit will stop them or it chooses to sacrifice short term profit for long term power.

Duuuuuuuude...... they won't.

They aren't fucking stupid.

That is the point.

They aren't being led by some Chinese version of Trump.

And it wouldn't be a matter of sacrificing some short term profits.

It would decimate their economy as well as the economies of every country the US trades with, all of whom also trade with China.

It's an absurd idea.

 

[Nomad]

I am trying to understand this..

Don't.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I am trying to understand this..

Yes, China would hurt itself financially by financially harming the US or the Euros, but if China's goal is to become the world's sole super power, then it would willingly take a severe financial hit if it increases their power to achieve their goal.

In other words; while I agree with Nomad's comment about China, I doubt financial harm will stop them from looking that their long terms goals.

Big deal.

China can't do anything to hurt the US economy without hurting their own.

 

[Nomad]

Yes, China would hurt itself financially by financially harming the US or the Euros, but if China's goal is to become the world's sole super power, then it would willingly take a severe financial hit if it increases their power to achieve their goal.

In other words; while I agree with Nomad's comment about China, I doubt financial harm will stop them from looking that their long terms goals.

And exactly what do you base that hypothesis on?

How would China increase their power by destroying their own economy along with everyone else's?

They depend on the US and the rest of the world every bit as much as we depend on them.

It's all interconnected.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Duuuuuuuude...... they won't.

They aren't fucking stupid.

That is the point.

They aren't being led by some Chinese version of Trump.

And it wouldn't be a matter of sacrificing some short term profits.

It would decimate their economy as well as the economies of every country the US trades with, all of whom also trade with China.

It's an absurd idea.

You young guys should read more history. Although it may be Walmart's biggest supplier, the People's Republic of China is not Walmart or even a capitalist nation.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html
Government type: communist party-led state

 

[Nomad]

You young guys should read more history.

I'll be 63 in a couple of months. You?

What does China's history have to do with the present or the future? They used to be ruled by Chairman Mao, were a mainly agricultural society and resembled North Korea more than they do modern day China.

Will they be going back to those days too just because it's their history?

Although it may be Walmart's biggest supplier, the People's Republic of China is not Walmart or even a capitalist nation.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html
Government type: communist party-led state

So? What does that mean?

The link told me nothing.

Is it a risk for America that China holds over $1 trillion in U.S. debt?

Many worry that China’s ownership of American debt affords the Chinese economic leverage over the United States. This apprehension, however, stems from a misunderstanding of sovereign debt and of how states derive power from their economic relations. The purchasing of sovereign debt by foreign countries is a normal transaction that helps maintain openness in the global economy. Consequently, China’s stake in America’s debt has more of a binding than dividing effect on bilateral relations between the two countries.

Even if China wished to “call in” its loans, the use of credit as a coercive measure is complicated and often heavily constrained. A creditor can only dictate terms for the debtor country if that debtor has no other options. In the case of the United States, American debt is a widely-held and extremely desirable asset in the global economy. Whatever debt China does sell is simply purchased by other countries. For instance, in August 2015 China reduced its holdings of U.S. Treasuries by approximately $180 billion. Despite the scale, this selloff did not significantly affect the U.S. economy, thereby limiting the impact that such an action may have on U.S. decision-making.

https://chinapower.csis.org/us-debt/

IOW.... relax.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'll be 63 in a couple of months. You?

What does China's history have to do with the present or the future? They used to be ruled by Chairman Mao, were a mainly agricultural society and resembled North Korea more than they do modern day China.

Will they be going back to those days too just because it's their history?



So? What does that mean?

The link told me nothing.

IOW.... relax.

I'm over 64.

Sad, but perhaps you should consider expanding your view to something outside "money".

There's an old saying: "Money isn't everything." That's true, but to the PRC, money is a weapon. Either way, you should consider that making money or avoiding bankruptcy isn't a major PRC goal.

Quite relaxed, thanks. China can't do much until well after I'm gone.

 

[Nomad]

I'm over 64.

Sad, but perhaps you should consider expanding your view to something outside "money".

There's an old saying: "Money isn't everything." That's true, but to the PRC, money is a weapon. Either way, you should consider that making money or avoiding bankruptcy isn't a major PRC goal.

Quite relaxed, thanks. China can't do much until well after I'm gone.

Money is what drives everything.

Global economics is not a dick-measuring contest played by overgrown adolescents and testosterone junkies for bragging rights or the title of baddest dude in the hood, and the US is not some little gold fish in comparison to the Great White Shark of China. We are on a very equal, well-balanced footing with them, no matter how much of our debt they own.

Read the article I linked above.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Money is what drives everything.

Global economics is not a dick-measuring contest played by overgrown adolescents and testosterone junkies for bragging rights or the title of baddest dude in the hood, and the US is not some little gold fish in comparison to the Great White Shark of China. We are on a very equal, well-balanced footing with them, no matter how much of our debt they own.

Read the article I linked above.

No, it doesn't, but I'll readily agree money drives you.

Think about this: If the entire global economy stopped; what would that change for China's internal affairs? Would they be better off than the US? Worse? The same?

 

[Nomad]

No, it doesn't, but I'll readily agree money drives you.

Total cheap shot. You know nothing about what "drives" me.

Do try to be better than that.

Think about this: If the entire global economy stopped; what would that change for China's internal affairs? Would they be better off than the US? Worse? The same?

That's a question that is not just overly broad, but not particularly relevant to what we're talking about.

If the global economy stopped, chaos would ensue in every country. China might do better in certain areas while the US might do better in others.

But none of that changes my contention that China not only won't, but can't do anything to wreck our economy or gain world dominance.

I think you're viewing China from a 1970's and 1980's point of view.

BTW, my next door neighbor is an HR director for Universal Studios in their China Operations Division. He travels back and forth to China frequently and right now, he's been over there since around mid January, working on a long term project.... they are building and will soon be opening Universal Studios Beijing Resort and theme park.

https://www.universalbeijingresort.com/en/content/about-us

Doesn't really sound to me like they're bent on destroying the US economy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Total cheap shot. You know nothing about what "drives" me....

How is that a cheap shot? You've stated over a small handful of posts money, money, money while refusing to consider that China could have motivations that make money a weapon, not a necessity.

 

[Nomad]

How is that a cheap shot? You've stated over a small handful of posts money, money, money while refusing to consider that China could have motivations that make money a weapon, not a necessity.

What else am I supposed to talk about when the subject is the economy and debt?

And how does my talking about the economies of the US and China indicate to you that I am somehow personally obsessed with money?

Could China be motivated by some evil, nefarious desire to rule the world as was the common view of them four and five decades ago? Certainly it's possible. The problem here, for the purposes of this thread, is that you have not provided one shred of reliably sourced evidence to support the idea.

Sounds to me like you're just flogging an old, outdated conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up.

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[MAGA MAN]

Go ahead and investigate him.

Not my yob. Why doesn't the media put out the same tenacity that they did against Trump?