Bidens utter failure in Ukraine.....

Stone said:
You never NEVER negotiate from a position of weakness,...not unless you want to get totally rolled like a fool. But that is exactly where we find ourselves now. Meanwhile Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now. He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally. If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to,...He can do whatever he wants.

He looked at the sanctions, laughed at them, and told us to go fuck ourselves and he would do as he wanted. THAT is the reality of it all. Now if we want him out of Ukraine we will have to give away the farm because he is already there with no reason to leave,...he is the one dealing from a position of strength. With China's full support I might add. So what is the answer? Go to war over it? Is that what you idiots want? The answer is we are FUCKED now. Its too late. We will have to bend over and give him everything he wants to get him out, all his wish list on a silver platter....if were lucky enuff to get him to take the deal at all. That......or go to WAR. A stronger better administration would have sorted this out well BEFORE the invasion happened. A smarter administration would have brokered a deal well ahead of time that would have been tolerable to all parties involved. But no,.....instead we get this total humiliation brought on by a bunch of fucking dummies running DC. Now live with. Nothing we can do now,... too late.
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"Brokered a deal" assumes there could have been a pre-invasion deal acceptable to Putin and acceptable to Ukraine. If you're making an argument based on that assumption you need to say what that deal could have been. You not only fail to say it you fail to say anything. Instead, a childish spout.
 
Stone said:
You never NEVER negotiate from a position of weakness,...not unless you want to get totally rolled like a fool. But that is exactly where we find ourselves now. Meanwhile Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now. He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally. If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to,...He can do whatever he wants.

He looked at the sanctions, laughed at them, and told us to go fuck ourselves and he would do as he wanted. THAT is the reality of it all. Now if we want him out of Ukraine we will have to give away the farm because he is already there with no reason to leave,...he is the one dealing from a position of strength. With China's full support I might add. So what is the answer? Go to war over it? Is that what you idiots want? The answer is we are FUCKED now. Its too late. We will have to bend over and give him everything he wants to get him out, all his wish list on a silver platter....if were lucky enuff to get him to take the deal at all. That......or go to WAR. A stronger better administration would have sorted this out well BEFORE the invasion happened. A smarter administration would have brokered a deal well ahead of time that would have been tolerable to all parties involved. But no,.....instead we get this total humiliation brought on by a bunch of fucking dummies running DC. Now live with. Nothing we can do now,... too late.
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You fucking fool at projecting atrocities of Russia on President Biden as you should direct your complaint toward the following facts:

Putin Loses Faith in Top Generals Following High-Profile Failures in Ukraine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=1a173c9b310b49fa9773585476f5b3d8

The massive courage of the U.S. and foreign allies arising to the occasion at dealing with this Russian invasion of a sovereign nation of the Ukraine as an unprovoked war is indeed awesome:

Opening Statement to Senate Foreign Relations Committee: “U.S. Efforts to Support Ukraine Against Russian Aggression”

Good morning, Chairman Menendez, Ranking Member Risch, and distinguished members of the Committee. It is an honor to be back in the presence of the Committee for another hearing on security assistance, this time for a discussion focused on United States security assistance to Ukraine. I am pleased to be here alongside Assistant Secretary Donfried, Ambassador Van Schaack, and Assistant Administrator McKee.

It was less than two months ago that I sat before the Committee and spoke about security assistance as an instrument of foreign policy. As we focus today on Ukraine, I am proud to say that the security assistance we have provided has served our foreign policy objectives to support Ukraine’s ability to protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity and to stand against Russia’s brutal and unprovoked assault. And we are all in awe of the remarkable courage of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Ukrainian people as they push back on Russia’s unforgiveable assault. And I want to thank Congress, we could not have provided the weapons Ukraine needs to defend itself without your support.

There is simply no justification or provocation for Russia’s war. It is nothing less than a direct challenge to the rules-based international order established since the end of World War II. And the Russian attack threatens to return us to decades of war like those that ravaged Europe in the 20th Century."

https://www.state.gov/opening-state...o-support-ukraine-against-russian-aggression/
 
Stone said:
You never NEVER negotiate from a position of weakness,...not unless you want to get totally rolled like a fool. But that is exactly where we find ourselves now. Meanwhile Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now. He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally. If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to,...He can do whatever he wants.

He looked at the sanctions, laughed at them, and told us to go fuck ourselves and he would do as he wanted. THAT is the reality of it all. Now if we want him out of Ukraine we will have to give away the farm because he is already there with no reason to leave,...he is the one dealing from a position of strength. With China's full support I might add. So what is the answer? Go to war over it? Is that what you idiots want? The answer is we are FUCKED now. Its too late. We will have to bend over and give him everything he wants to get him out, all his wish list on a silver platter....if were lucky enuff to get him to take the deal at all. That......or go to WAR. A stronger better administration would have sorted this out well BEFORE the invasion happened. A smarter administration would have brokered a deal well ahead of time that would have been tolerable to all parties involved. But no,.....instead we get this total humiliation brought on by a bunch of fucking dummies running DC. Now live with. Nothing we can do now,... too late.
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Epic fail, Putin's lover.

:magagrin:
 
What is Biden doing interfering with UKrainian affairs ? Ukraine isn't in NATO and it's a long, long way from Washington.

Yanqui, go home. The world has witnessed enough US foreign clustercfucks.
 
Stone said:
Whats wrong in my post. Point it out and show FACTS to disprove it.
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Stone said:
Meanwhile Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now.

He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally.

If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to,...

He can do whatever he wants.
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Cypress said:
Do you really want to stand by this assessment? -->
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Says the wanker whose claims of Russian defeat already have littered the forum for weeks.

You might well be headed for Humiliation Corner along with the Brit maggot.
 
moon said:
Says the wanker whose claims of Russian defeat already have littered the forum for weeks.

You might well be headed for Humiliation Corner along with the Brit maggot.
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Oh, you thought you would try to parachute in and rescue your MAGA boyfriend Stone
 
Stone said:
Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now.

He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally. If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to.

Hey can do whatever he wants.

we are FUCKED now. Now live with it.

Nothing we can do now,... too late.
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NATO is larger, stronger, and more unified than anytime in it's history.

Ukraine, a second rate European nation, has fought a world military superpower to a standstill.

It will take years to rebuild the Russian army, and rather than weaken NATO, Putin has strengthened NATO.
 
Stone said:
If Russia, China, Iran, and North korea decide to work in concert with each other, something that could VERY easily happen BTW.........We are in real trouble. 2 outcomes.....A whole new world "not a good one" ,...or no world at all.
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Well Field Marshall Stone, NATO is more united than it's ever been in it's history, NATO is adding new member states, a second rate European nation has fought the supposed military superpower Russia to a standstill, and China is probably viewing Russia's failure to conquer Ukraine and taking it into account in it's Taiwanese calculations.
 
Cypress said:
Well Field Marshall Stone, NATO is more united than it's ever been in it's history, NATO is adding new member states, a second rate European nation has fought the supposed military superpower Russia to a standstill, and China is probably viewing Russia's failure to conquer Ukraine and taking it into account in it's Taiwanese calculations.
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You read just like the aggressive NATO fantasist that you are.


Haw, haw................................haw.
 
Stone said:
Nope. But Joe Biden sure is. Right now on this VERY DAY Joe Biden has our country buying oil from Russia! Right now TODAY. And LOTS OF IT. Talk about a Putin Cock sucker. Thats almost as bad as someone giving billions of dollars of American military hardware to the Taliban! Oh wait, that actually happened!!! Whats next for an encore,....giving our nuclear codes to the Chinese?
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https://www.reuters.com/business/biden-announce-ban-russian-oil-tuesday-sources-2022-03-08/

You are a complete fucking moron.
 
Stone said:
:laugh: Putin saw the sanctions, laughed his ass off, told Joe to go fuck himself,...and then invaded anyway. Going badly? :laugh: He controls most of ukraine already. Furthermore,...the fake news MSM wont be able to hide it much longer.
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Putin controls at most 20 percent of Ukraine, and even some of that is precarious because of Ukranian partisan resistance.

The Russian military will take years to rebuild after the beating it took.

A second rate European nation has fought a world military superpower to a standstill.

Europe is terminating relationships with Russia.

NATO is bigger, stronger, and more united than ever. New member states are joining NATO.

There is no net economic or geopolitical benefit to Russia in holding the Donbass region and a sliver of land along the Sea of Azov. At most it counts as a door prize to latent 19th century Russian imperialism.
 
Frank Apisa said:
There is no hyperbole there, Stone. Please realize that. Trump was willing to withhold aid from Ukraine in order to get dirt on Joe Biden's family...and that indicates a willingness to HELP Putin in a long held desire to reclaim Ukraine for what he sees as the future return of the USSR.

C'mon!
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if that's true, what does it say about Joe being willing to withhold aid from Ukraine to prevent them from investigating his family?........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
to be fair, both those links predate the ban......the real problem is we import refined products from India and India still imports Russian crude.......no way to identify which crude has become which refined product.......the bottom line is the ban hasn't worked, as the war is still going on......
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Russia is not in good shape. They are running out of equipment,. weapons, ammunition and man power. Its doubtful just how much longer they can continue.
 
floridafan said:
Russia is not in good shape. They are running out of equipment,. weapons, ammunition and man power. Its doubtful just how much longer they can continue.
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why hasn't Biden done anything....well, anything beyond telling Putin he would ignore a "mild incursion" that is......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why hasn't Biden done anything....well, anything beyond telling Putin he would ignore a "mild incursion" that is......
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Wouldn't you consider the billions of dollars of military equipment, something? Without this investment, Ukraine would be under total Russian control.
Then, Biden never, never told Putin he would ignore a mild incursion. Its amazing what a fucking liar you are.
 
floridafan said:
Wouldn't you consider the billions of dollars of military equipment, something? Without this investment, Ukraine would be under total Russian control.
Then, Biden never, never told Putin he would ignore a mild incursion. Its amazing what a fucking liar you are.
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If Trump was President Russia would have never attacked Ukraine. Biden's debacle in Afghanistan embolden Putin.
 
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