Bidens utter failure in Ukraine.....

[Cypress]

Yeah, ok. Biden imposed sanctions. Putin saw the sanctions, laughed his ass off, told Joe to go fuck himself,...and then invaded anyway.

Going badly? He controls most of ukraine already. Furthermore,...the fake news MSM wont be able to hide it much longer.

Putin's invasion has been stopped dead in it's tracks, and Ukrainian armed forces are gradually recapturing formerly occupied territories.

Despite your claim, Putin never came close to controlling most of Ukraine.




Cypress' Judgement:

Ukraine is not Chechnya, Georgia, or Moldava. Ukraine is a large country with a substantial military, capable of inflicting significant damage.

Ukraine has morale and commitment on it's side. There is a long history of proud nationalism in Ukraine which Putin may have underestimated.

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MAGA's Judgements:

The Ukraine will be totally over run within days.

Soon the Ukrainian Army will be all but destroyed.

The current president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, will be murdered soon. The Russian Federation will install a puppet government.The entire country of the Ukraine will be part of the Russian Federation.

Ukrainian army- leaderless, deserting, unsupported .

"YOU DO NOT POKE THE RUSSIAN BEAR!"

 

[Walt]

Belarus is the only nation in Russia's CTSO military alliance who is lifting a finger to help Putin. The rest of the CTSO countries are sitting on the sidelines.

Yes, you are correct.

When Russia launched the invasion of Ukraine from Belarus, the Belarus Army was ordered to join them. Instead, they moved as far away from Ukraine as they could. Belarus was willing to let Russian forces cross their territory, but that is about it.

 

[Earl]

But what about the loss of power to 70%, the loss of water?

With the most severe part of Winter still ahead.

 

[Cypress]

But what about the loss of power to 70%, the loss of water?

With the most severe part of Winter still ahead.

MAGAs would obviously surrender if they felt cold and inconvenienced . Ukrainians are hardier and more resolute than MAGAs. You can pray that Ukraine will surrender when they feel cold, but I don't see it happening.

 

[Cypress]

Yes, you are correct.

When Russia launched the invasion of Ukraine from Belarus, the Belarus Army was ordered to join them. Instead, they moved as far away from Ukraine as they could. Belarus was willing to let Russian forces cross their territory, but that is about it.

CTSO countries like Kazakhstan have their own Russian speaking minority communities, and they might be worried about the precedent of Putin launching a 'special operation' against their own country to liberate the ethnic Russians

 

[Stone]

That's rather vague, Walter.

The facts are the facts and without water and power and the worst part of Winter looming ahead...

Walter LOVES playing the fantasy game. In between running 31 different companies and getting his kids ready for school on a Saturday that is.

 

[Stone]

MAGAs would obviously surrender if they felt cold and inconvenienced . Ukrainians are hardier and more resolute than MAGAs. You can pray that Ukraine will surrender when they feel cold, but I don't see it happening.

I bet I wouldnt surrender against YOU Cypress. Hot, cold, or anything in between. You would though. Fast too.

 

[Stone]

I have nothing against the people of the Ukraine. People are people are people wherever you go. But,....the fact is a great MANY Ukrainians not only surrendered to Nazi Germany,....but welcomed them with open arms and did all they could to willingly help them. FACTS.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

MAGAs would obviously surrender if they felt cold and inconvenienced . Ukrainians are hardier and more resolute than MAGAs. You can pray that Ukraine will surrender when they feel cold, but I don't see it happening.

As this thread proves, they've already surrendered to Trumpian authoritarian ideology which, of course, is heavily influenced with Putin's desires for American isolationism.

Notice how quickly and consistently JPP MAGAts go whichever way Trump is blowing this week.

 

[Cypress]

I have nothing against the people of the Ukraine. People are people are people wherever you go. But,....the fact is a great MANY Ukrainians not only surrendered to Nazi Germany,....but welcomed them with open arms and did all they could to willingly help them. FACTS.

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1.65 million Ukranian soldiers were killed fighting Nazi Germany, and 5.2 million Ukranian civilians were killed by the Nazis.

More Ukranian soldiers died fighting the Nazis than the combined military mortalities of United States, Britain, and France added together collectively.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/world-war-two-casualties-by-country

A lot of people throughout Europe collaborated with the Nazis, including French, Norwegians, Dutch. Vichy France was famously history's most notorious collaborators. But in the 21st century, we do not call out France as a Nazi nation.

 

[moon]

Bidens utter failure in Ukraine.....

Aw, that's not entirely fair. He has managed to freeze Europe and starve half of Africa.

 

[Nomad]

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A lot of people throughout Europe collaborated with the Nazis, including French, Norwegians, Dutch. Vichy France was famously history's most notorious collaborators. But in the 21st century, we do not call out France as a Nazi nation.

And don't forget fascist Italy, the number one ally of Nazi Germany during WWII.

 

[LurchAddams]

I have nothing against the people of the Ukraine. People are people are people wherever you go. But,....the fact is a great MANY Ukrainians not only surrendered to Nazi Germany,....but welcomed them with open arms and did all they could to willingly help them. FACTS.

So did the French during WWII. Should we kick the French out of NATO for what happened almost a Century ago?

 

[LurchAddams]

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A lot of people throughout Europe collaborated with the Nazis, including French, Norwegians, Dutch. Vichy France was famously history's most notorious collaborators. But in the 21st century, we do not call out France as a Nazi nation.

Many Americans were collaborators with the Nazis prior to and during WWII as well. Congressmen and Senators were being paid by the Nazi government to give white supremacist speeches. Now, the GOP are getting their speeches from Putin and Orban.

 

[LurchAddams]

Aw, that's not entirely fair. He has managed to freeze Europe and starve half of Africa.

Putin did that. Not Biden. Why are you such a liar all the time?

 

[Nomad]

NATO is larger, stronger, more united than ever under Biden.

Thanks to American and NATO support, a second rate European nation has fought a world military superpower to a standstill, and is even clawing back it's territory.

The Russian army has been decimated by Ukraine and the billions of dollars of American weapons and American Intel Biden has shared.

The Russian military is not even close to being a peer of with United States, Britain, France.

This ^^^^.

Biden has shown himself to be very much a statesman.

 

[LurchAddams]

And don't forget fascist Italy, the number one ally of Nazi Germany during WWII.

Spain's "Generalisimo Franco" was pretty much in the tank with Adolf as well. He was still alive in the early 70's when I lived there. I can't believe they didn't put the fuck in prison. Spain treated him as a celebrity until he died.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And don't forget fascist Italy, the number one ally of Nazi Germany during WWII.

A point the MAGAts would rather everyone overlook along with Japan's actions.

 

[Nomad]

Many Americans were collaborators with the Nazis prior to and during WWII as well. Congressmen and Senators were being paid by the Nazi government to give white supremacist speeches. Now, the GOP are getting their speeches from Putin and Orban.

Donald Trump's father Fred, being a notable example.

He even sported the Hitler mustache.

 

[Walt]

CTSO countries like Kazakhstan have their own Russian speaking minority communities, and they might be worried about the precedent of Putin launching a 'special operation' against their own country to liberate the ethnic Russians

Putin is eying the former parts of the Soviet Union, and even the Imperial Russian Empire. He could go after Estonia, Finland, Poland, or even Alaska or Arkansas.