Bill Maher rails against COVID restrictions: It's time to admit pandemic is 'over'

Primavera said:
Polibullshitter will no longer be needed in her self appointed role as JPP Grim Reaper, good riddance to the nasty old crone.
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Absolutely. The sooner that crazy old hag leaves this forum the better. She can take the other old swine Evince with her too!
 
evince said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122270285663785991


9/20/2008




But Monday's vote split both parties, whose members had been barraged all week with angry messages from constituents who opposed the bill. Among Democrats, 140 supported the bill and 95 voted against. Support among Republicans, who had revolted against an earlier iteration of the bill last week, was at the low end of what was expected by the House Republican leadership, with 65 in favor and 133 against. One Republican, retiring Rep. Jerry Weller of Illinois, did not vote.
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Not the cause of the crash. This vote was in response to a crash that had already occurred.
 
evince said:
your Bush boy lied this nation to war
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No.
evince said:
And crashed the entire world economy with fox “news” help
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He didn't crash the economy.
evince said:
But you hate and defend him all at once
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Bush is a RINO. I dislike all RINOs.
evince said:
Even though the fat ugly orange Putin sperm bank hated Bush
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Putin is not a sperm bank nor orange.
evince said:
Did trump say Bush lied us to war?
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No.
evince said:
So you must agree that trump lied about Bush or that you are defending a guy who lied is to war
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He didn't.
evince said:
Which is it?
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Simple. You are hallucinating again, and have a bad case of TDS.
 
evince said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122270285663785991


9/20/2008




But Monday's vote split both parties, whose members had been barraged all week with angry messages from constituents who opposed the bill. Among Democrats, 140 supported the bill and 95 voted against. Support among Republicans, who had revolted against an earlier iteration of the bill last week, was at the low end of what was expected by the House Republican leadership, with 65 in favor and 133 against. One Republican, retiring Rep. Jerry Weller of Illinois, did not vote.
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Bush caused the mess with Republican economic policy



Then his own party didn’t want to fix the mess
 
Legion said:
It's inconvenient politically to rely on existing scientific data.
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There is no such thing as 'scientific' data. Science is not data. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Data is the result of an observation. All observations are subject to the problems of phenomenology. They are evidence only. They are not a proof.

Science has no proofs.

Data itself is always in question. A lot of people claim data that is really just random numbers.

Before I accept ANY data, I must know:
* who collected the data and why
* when it was collected
* the method used to collect it. If instrumentation was used, the calibration methods and dates calibrated must also be provided
* if a summary is presented, the unbiased raw data must be provided, the variance must be declared and justified, and the margin of error value must be calculated and accompany the summary. All work must be shown, including selecting from the raw data by randN. Statistical math is not capable of prediction normally inherent in mathematics due to the importation of random number mathematics across Domains. Anyone claiming such is ignoring the limitations of statistical math.
* the data itself must be available.

These are my minimum standards for any data presented to me. Only then is it possible to judge the data valid. I deem any other 'data' invalid. It is nothing more than random numbers of type randU.
 
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Legion said:
I seem to recall that Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae were pressured into making subprime loans a thing for the "deserving poor" who couldn't (or wouldn't) make the payments on their mortgages, which exacerbated the negative effects of the market bubble crash.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-caused-the-subprime-mortgage-crisis-3305696
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Banks made the loans, banks traded the loans with each other, each over speculating. People bought properties they had no business buying, hoping to make a quick flip and make money. Banks issued 'balloon loans' for such speculators. When they couldn't unload their property for a profit, the balloon loans came due, causing the crash.

That crash took the form of a debt crash. It did not affect the stock market until later. Due to interference by Obama, the crash wasn't allowed to unwind naturally, extending the effects throughout the Obama years.

The easy cash from the Federal Reserve was the enabling factor. That came from Congress, not Bush.
 
ziggy said:
The HBO star claimed Friday that red states were "a joy" to visit these days while blue states were "a pain in the a--" because of coronavirus rules

"Real Time" host Bill Maher railed against ongoing COVID restrictions, declaring the pandemic "over."

Maher kicked off the show's panel discussion Friday night by expressing relief that Dr. Anthony Fauci has given the green light on Halloween since it's been Maher's "position since the beginning of this."

"Just resume living," Maher told his audience. "I know some people seem to not want to give up on the wonderful pandemic, but you know what? It's over. There's always going to be a variant. You shouldn't have to wear masks. I should be to … I haven't had a meeting with my staff since March of 2020. Why?"

"Also, vaccine, mask, pick one! You've got to pick. You can't make me mask if I've had the vaccine," Maher added.

The Atlantic staff writer Caitlin Flanagan told Maher she had "broken up with COVID" after the first year of the pandemic, comparing it to an "abusive" boyfriend.

"And I got the vaccine. I walked out of the CVS. I hadn't been that thrilled coming out of the drugstore since I got the birth control pill in 1981," Flanagan quipped. "I've had cancer. I'm triple vaxxed. If it gets me, fair play to it because it will put up a fight against me but I'm not staying in my house again."

Maher then pressed his guest, Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., since "it's the Democrats" that keep enforcing COVID restrictions.

"I travel in every state now, back on the road, and the red states are a joy and the blue states are a pain in the a--. For no reason," Maher said.

"One of the critical things that's being discussed right now by President Biden, one of the things we have to recommit ourselves to, is supporting vaccination around the rest of the world," Coons responded. "There's still a lot of countries that are very, very minimally vaccinated because if a variant develops out in the world that is able to defeat the vaccine, we are all the way back to the beginning. So in the United States, in most of the western world, we're ready to be done with this, but we're not done until the world is safe and we're not safe as a world until the world's vaccinated."

"Except the world recognizes natural immunity. We don't," Maher pushed back, "because everything in this country has to go through the pharmaceutical companies. Natural immunity is the best kind of immunity. We shouldn't fire people who have natural immunity because they don't get the vaccine. We should hire them. Yes?"

"If someone is having tested with antibodies," Coons conceded.

"Well, OK. But you know, people who've had it – I've had it," Maher said. "I mean, I shouldn't be tested anymore. I got the vaccine."

"And if someone's willing to be a fireman, if someone's willing to be a policeman, if someone's willing to go into a burning building and says, 'I'm just not that afraid of COVID and I don't want to take the vaccine,' that should be enough," Flanagan interjected. "You shouldn't be losing a job, you shouldn't be furloughed without pay, the guy that saves lives because he doesn't want to take the vaccine. It's ridiculous."

The HBO star complained about the "messaging" regarding COVID, pointing to people he had seen outside "alone walking with a mask," stressing "it's so stupid."

"It's an amulet, you know? A charm people wear around the neck that wards away evil spirits. It means nothing," Maher said. "I mean, can't we get people to understand the facts more?"

Maher went on to slam Democrats over a poll that showed "41%" of them believed unvaccinated people have "over 50%" risk of hospitalization when it's actually "0.89%," adding that it's "0.01%" for vaccinated people.

"So in both cases, the correct answer is less than 1%. They thought it was over 50. How do people, especially of one party, get such a bad idea? Where did that come from?" Maher asked.

Coons reiterated that "we frankly shouldn't let up on the urgency of still promoting vaccination" so that "we can enjoy reopening our society."

But Maher pushed back on the lack of "consensus" on how many people have actually died from COVID, pointing to the recent passing of former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who Maher pointed out had cancer and Parkinson's disease but died of "complications from COVID."

"We're looking at people with complicated health histories a lot of the time," Flanagan said. "We're looking at obesity as an issue but no one wants to say it because it's body positivity. And we're looking at poverty. That's what we need to be focused on, people who live really close together. But there's a lot of people within different poor communities so don't want to take it. We just have to take our chances, be thoughtful and careful and go back out there and make sure that people who live in dense housing have complete access to the vaccine. And if they don't want to take it …"

"We have to get back to life," Maher agreed. "I mean, you might look at the sporting events that are … all three sports are playing now including basketball, which is inside. Nobody seems to be having super-spreader events. I mean, you know, it was great. It was so much fun having a pandemic but, you know, buh-bye."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-maher-covid-restrictions-coronavirus-pandemic-over
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where did bill maher get his degree in medicine or transmittable diseases from- a crackerback jocks? i like maher, he is funny, but he is an arrogant clown about some things. like covid and data and facts. but leave it to dumbuck stooge goobers to take his word over thousands of actual experts!! why are you fuckers so stupid?

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"Except the world recognizes natural immunity. We don't," Maher pushed back, "because everything in this country has to go through the pharmaceutical companies. Natural immunity is the best kind of immunity. We shouldn't fire people who have natural immunity because they don't get the vaccine. We should hire them. Yes?"

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