Billionaires Are Warping Our Political System

[Truth Detector]

Why does anyone suppose the US is not an oligarchy?

How can idiots like you claim it is?

Are you allowed to change the system?

Do you even have the slightest clue what you are talking about?

Surely it is not only an oligarchy but a plutocracy, and you are all to scared even to think of challenging it?

Surely you have no clue as to what an oligarchy or plutocracy is and you can only make such moronic claims be being a glaring ignoramus thinking you can make an argument by just saying it is so.

But then you are a clueless historically ignorant European who doesn’t comprehend our Constitution or how our system actually works.

But just for shits and giggles; why don't you point us in the direction of a Government system that better represents it's citizens?

 

[maineman]

what you "point out" are things you disagree with. that does not make them lies... it DOES, however, make you a liar for continuing to call them that.

You're an insulting dishonest liar.

Most everyone here has figured that out long ago.

 

[maineman]

A question for TD: did you EVER complain about the money you thought Soros was pumping into liberal causes?

 

[maineman]

and we've always had term limits for members of congress.... they are administered by a process called "elections".

Just because YOU don't like who the people in your district, or the people in any other district, elect to congress, does not give you the right to tell them they can no longer vote for them.

 

[Truth Detector]

what you "point out" are things you disagree with.

That is a lie; see how this works?

that does not make them lies... it DOES, however, make you a liar for continuing to call them that.

This is a lie; see how this works?

You're an insulting dishonest liar.

This isn’t lying, it is an amazing and ignorant level of hypocrisy only a dunce like you can engage in; again, you might want to read my signature again because you have the memory of a lemming.

Most everyone here has figured that out long ago.

This is a lie; see how that works.

But I am amused that you think the tiny cabal of brain dead leftist dunces that comprise Snarla’s little posse of ignorant fools comprises “most everyone” on the forum in your tiny little warped, closed hyper partisan hack brain.

So here we are once again watching your dishonest repugnant attempts to drag the thread off topic and make it all about me; why? Because you are a dishonest repugnant pathetic whiney little dunce stuck on a special brand of stupid only leftists can wallow in.

You really are THAT stupid.

Now back to the thread's false premise; are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics? Yes or no?

Let's see if you can erupt with an ounce of honesty once in your pathetic dimwitted life.

 

[Truth Detector]

A question for TD: did you EVER complain about the money you thought Soros was pumping into liberal causes?

No I did not; because my complaints are not hyper partisan like yours and had NOTHING to do with his money; but rather his efforts to fund of websites devoted to spreading lies, distortions and character attacks on Conservatives for purely hyper partisan political purposes.

You see, unlike you, I know that money is NOT the issue here; but the system of corruption in Washington DC built upon a tax code and influence peddling through favors and subsidies that almost guarantee politicians, who are mostly comprised of lawyers, a lifetime of employment. And unlike you, I know it goes for Republicans AND Democrats which is why my arguments are focused on the "system" of corruption and not on the individuals.

BUT, being an uneducated hyper partisan hack, you believe that it is all about a particular party winning elections.

Being an uneducated hyper partisan hack, you believe that it is about how much mud you can dredge up to smear a person’s character and not about issues.

Being an uneducated hyper partisan hack, you believe that there should be a double standard.

Being an uneducated hyper partisan hack, you believe that what is good for the goose, must also be good for the gander.

But again, you truly are too stupid to comprehend anything beyond your Marxist rhetoric and the idiot talking points you have been fed.

Now getting back to the thread's false premise; are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics? Yes or no?

Let's see if you can erupt with an ounce of honesty once in your pathetic dimwitted life.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Wealthy warping the political system is nothing new.

Who do you think Washington, Jefferson and to a lesser extent Adams were?
Who do you think backed them and politicked for them?

Back then the poor were not even allowed to vote.

These people were not egalitarians, they were elitist with a false claim to something noble.

Don't get me wrong, they set in motion a system that became more free and egalitarian than anything as significant and big conceived in modern times.

So much wrong here.

 

[Truth Detector]

and we've always had term limits for members of congress.... they are administered by a process called "elections".

Once again you erupt, but cannot comprehend the argument.

Yes we have elections; and they are influenced by dishonest partisan politicians who pander to low information voters in order to get and remain elected.

They are also guaranteed by a system of carving out “safe” districts in an effort to sustain the status quo.

It is a system of corruption that is built upon the tax code, subsidies and almost guaranteed lifetime service as long as you pander to those desires no matter their detrimental effect.

So while Liberal dunces desperately and falsely whine about the corrupting influences coming from Conservative billionaires, they ignore the corrupting influence their votes have a system built on corruption.

I don’t expect you to “get it”; you can’t possibly “get” anything beyond your tired hyper partisan canards.

Like I said, you’re not interested in “fixing” the problem, you want to sustain the status quo by attempting to guarantee clinging to a slim majority so that you can promote a dishonest leftist agenda with a proven historic record of malaise and failure.

Just because YOU don't like who the people in your district, or the people in any other district, elect to congress, does not give you the right to tell them they can no longer vote for them.

Just because you “like” the current system of corruption and influence peddling does not give you the right to tell me I cannot argue to reform it.

Besides, who is telling them they cannot vote? Oh that’s right, you made that one up because you really are a dishonest dunce who fabricates strawman claims no one has made. Color me shocked!

Now getting back to the thread's false premise; are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics? Yes or no?

I made the font bigger because you keep missing it. Let's see if you can erupt with an ounce of honesty once in your pathetic dimwitted life.

 

[maineman]

you're too fucking stupid to even try to carry on a conversation with.

I don't lie. I say things you don't agree with but that does not make them LIES. I am not saying something I KNOW to be false as I am saying it. I am stating what I believe to be true. If you disagree, prove me wrong... don't just call me dishonest when I am NOT dishonest and pride myself in my integrity. When you call ME a liar, when I never lie, that DOES make you a liar.

 

[maineman]

and in answer to your question, I think that republican donors are different that democratic donors in that the ones on the right are supporting causes that benefit them personally, whereas the ones on the left are supporting causes that benefit people much less fortunate than themselves....imho.

 

[Truth Detector]

you're too fucking stupid to even try to carry on a conversation with.

Then put back on ignore you lying leftist asshole!! Damn you are one dumb mother fucker you know that? Another lie; you said I made you laugh; apparently you’re not laughing now are you, you repugnant lying asshole. LMAO

Yes, you really are THAT fucking stupid dumbass.

I don't lie.

Yes you do lie; as evidenced above; you lying dumbass.

I say things you don't agree with but that does not make them LIES.

Wrong again shit-for-brains; you say things that are patently stupid or outright fabrications.

It’s not about disagreeing with your partisan bullshit you moron; it’s about correcting the false bullshit and strawman claims you erupt constantly with.

I am not saying something I KNOW to be false as I am saying it.

Yes you are saying things you know to be false constantly; for instance, when you claim Bush was lying about WMDs. That’s an outright lie which you have been called on numerous time, and still you erupt with the same lying bullshit over and over again as if it might make it factual if you just keep repeating it like the retard you are.

Or that income equality can be achieved through Government theft of individual’s earnings; yes, you really are that big of a liar and an economic moron of epic proportions.

I am stating what I believe to be true.

That is a lie; you are bloviating with moronic leftist talking points like the good hyper partisan asshole that you are.

If you disagree, prove me wrong...

You’re proven wrong every day on this forum when you erupt with the typical false bullshit and thread trolling deflections. It hasn’t made a dent on your glaring ignorance.

don't just call me dishonest when I am NOT dishonest

You’re the most repugnant dishonest leftist asshole on the forum; the fact that you think you are not suggests that you may need some professional psychiatric help.

and pride myself in my integrity.

LMAO

When you call ME a liar, when I never lie, that DOES make you a liar.

That is a lie; but again, you’re too stupid or ignorant to get it.

I call you a liar because you are one, you repugnant ignorant retard. Not to mention a dishonest thread trolling buffoon.

 

[maineman]

when George Bush said "THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT SADDAM HAS STOCKPILES OF WMD's", that was a lie. He knew of plenty of doubt within his own intelligence organizations. He knew of caveats and qualifiers... he knew there were degrees of doubt. To say otherwise is a lie. It certainly is not a lie for me to point that out.

As I said, I don't lie, and you are a liar and a douchebag.... but hey... you gotta know that this is all pretty lightweight stuff for me.... I am sitting here watching an episode of Top Chef Canada and cutting back and forth to this site... and I do so because it DOES brighten my day with humor, for the most part, and you are the most humorous motherfucker here, bar none.

 

[Truth Detector]

and in answer to your question, I think that republican donors are different that democratic donors in that the ones on the right are supporting causes that benefit them personally, whereas the ones on the left are supporting causes that benefit people much less fortunate than themselves....imho.

That wasn’t the question you dishonest dumbass. I didn’t ask you for your dimwitted hyper partisan leftist opinion. Where did I ask, what your OPINION was shit-for-brains? I already know what your OPINION is. This is about the FACTS dunce.

Let’s try this again: are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics with money? Yes or no?

It really is a simple yes or no.

 

[maineman]

That wasn’t the question you dishonest dumbass. I didn’t ask you for your dimwitted hyper partisan leftist opinion. Where did I ask, what your OPINION was shit-for-brains? I already know what your OPINION is. This is about the FACTS dunce.

Let’s try this again: are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics with money? Yes or no?

It really is a simple yes or no.

there are singular in their attempt to influence American politics with money for the purpose of making money.

 

[Truth Detector]

when George Bush said "THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT SADDAM HAS STOCKPILES OF WMD's", that was a lie. He knew of plenty of doubt within his own intelligence organizations. He knew of caveats and qualifiers... he knew there were degrees of doubt. To say otherwise is a lie. It certainly is not a lie for me to point that out.

There you go again with same old tired dishonest lying stupidity again; you just can’t help yourself can you dumbass. You’re like a broken record stuck on stupid.

The only dumber thing is your claim that Democrats similar claims “weren’t as certain”. You really are that big of a pathetic hyper partisan asshole.

Here they are again so you can attempt to parse the difference between Bush and Democrats; it’s a hoot watching you spin and twist the truth. We call that LYING.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

Now I don’t know about you shit-for-brains; but there isn’t ANY uncertainty here. Just because Clinton was more concerned about getting his rocks off than dealing with Saddam doesn’t make his claims any less true than Bush’s.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

Yeah, this one is REAL uncertain isn’t it shit-for-brains.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

Wow; look at all the uncertainty in her remarks right dumbass?

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

Wow; Mr. Liberal Levin himself sounds just like George W. I can see how his comments could be viewed as “uncertain;” if you’re a fucking retard.

Dumbass.

As I said, I don't lie, and you are a liar and a douchebag....

Meanwhile you erupt with lies like the one above; you really are that simple minded and dishonest.

but hey... you gotta know that this is all pretty lightweight stuff for me.... I am sitting here watching an episode of Top Chef Canada and cutting back and forth to this site... and I do so because it DOES brighten my day with humor, for the most part, and you are the most humorous motherfucker here, bar none.

LMAO; you really are a simple minded dumbass aren’t you? You have an angry eruption, then try to lie about it claiming you’re just….well…kidding I guess; what a retarded whacko.



Now getting back to the thread's false premise; are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics? Yes or no?

I'm keeping the font bigger in hopes you can honestly answer it. Let's see if you can erupt with an ounce of honesty once in your pathetic dimwitted life. So far, and predictably, it just isn't happening wih you.

 

[Truth Detector]

there are singular in their attempt to influence American politics with money for the purpose of making money.

That wasn’t the question you dishonest dumbass. I didn’t ask you for your dimwitted hyper partisan leftist opinion.

Let’s try this again: are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics with money? Yes or no?

It really is a simple yes or no.

 

[maineman]

an "angry eruption"? you can tell this by reading pixels on a CRT? LMAO

I am certainly not, nor was I angry and I never erupted about anything.

You are one silly little boy, that's for sure.

Just between us, I'll give you the secret signal that I am starting to have an angry eruption.... if, the font starts to get bigger and I switch to ALL CAPS AND THEN THE TYPE STARTS GOING BOLD AND CHANGES COLOR TO RED.... THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL TO YOU THAY SOMETHING YOU HAVE SAID HAS MADE ME ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!

Barring that, you can safely assume that I am remaining simply amused by your blathering. OK?

 

[maineman]

That wasn’t the question you dishonest dumbass. I didn’t ask you for your dimwitted hyper partisan leftist opinion.

Let’s try this again: are Republican donors singular in trying to influence American politics with money? Yes or no?

It really is a simple yes or no.

and let me get this straight... this simple yes or no answer.... that would the the distillation of my...wait for it.... OPINION, isn't that correct?

In my opinion, republican donors and democratic donors are both trying to influence American politics with money.

Also, in my opinion, some influence is coarsely self-serving in nature, while other sorts of influence are more altruistic.

ALSO, in my opinion, you are a lying, sniveling little immature excuse for a man, and I am quite pleased that we don't occupy the same side of the political spectrum... quite pleased indeed!

 

[Truth Detector]

and let me get this straight... this simple yes or no answer.... that would the the distillation of my...wait for it.... OPINION, isn't that correct?

How is this an OPINION dumbass? The question is a simple YES or a NO.

The only reason you find it so hard to answer is that it obviously destroys your dishonest attempts to suggest otherwise.

I don’t give a shit about your misguided uninformed low information opinions.

In my opinion, republican donors and democratic donors are both trying to influence American politics with money.

There you go; so the premise of this thread, suggesting that ONLY Republican donors are doing so is false and based on lies.

That wasn’t so hard was it? All you have to be is honest once and a while and then it wouldn’t take half a dozen posts to arrive at the truth.

Also, in my opinion, some influence is coarsely self-serving in nature, while other sorts of influence are more altruistic.

So what?

ALSO, in my opinion, you are a lying, sniveling little immature excuse for a man, and I am quite pleased that we don't occupy the same side of the political spectrum... quite pleased indeed!

LMAO; my response: the feeling is mutual shit-for-brains.

Besides, who gives a rat’s ass what a lying leftist expat Mexican slum dwelling dunce thinks?

Mainetard having a meltdown:

 

[Truth Detector]

an "angry eruption"? you can tell this by reading pixels on a CRT? LMAO

I am certainly not, nor was I angry and I never erupted about anything.

You are one silly little boy, that's for sure.

Just between us, I'll give you the secret signal that I am starting to have an angry eruption.... if, the font starts to get bigger and I switch to ALL CAPS AND THEN THE TYPE STARTS GOING BOLD AND CHANGES COLOR TO RED.... THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL TO YOU THAY SOMETHING YOU HAVE SAID HAS MADE ME ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!

Barring that, you can safely assume that I am remaining simply amused by your blathering. OK?

LMAO; you're such a lying dishonest dunce.

Maintard having another meltdown: