They've already outlawed the sale of internal combustion engines as of 2030, haven't they?
Blackouts Loom In California As Electricity Prices Are “Absolutely Exploding”
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They've already outlawed the sale of internal combustion engines as of 2030, haven't they?
Did you know that the Beholden State has led the nation in poverty and homelessness for years?
They steal water from adjacent states, don't they?
INDEED...
DEMOCRATS never want to talk about that, do they?
Into the Night
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Yes. External combustion engines too.
No trucks. No aircraft. No ships. No trains. More power plants offline. I say shut off exports of water and electricity to the SOTC and let 'em sit in the hot dark and gaze at their own navel.
Into the Night
Verified User
Yup. They don't collect their own water. Shut off exports of water to them.
They're planning a massive desalination effort.
It'll cost trillions, like the "high speed rail" boondoggle.
God bless Biden's America! 
See the shades? Reminds me I need to wash off the panels. 
Into the Night
Verified User
You DO know what a blackout is, don't you?
So you admit the whole second part of the title of this thread is nonsense? Electricity prices are not exploding.
There may well be blackouts. LA which was not required to privatize by Republicans is rarely hit. It usually is the areas required to privatize. But that is all predictions, and we will see where they go.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
My gawd, burn some damn coal already or go nuclear.
Leftists are gonna be the end of us all.
Into the Night
Verified User
Yes they are.
Because YOU idiots won't build or maintain your own power plants.
Lie.
Lie.
You did it to yourselves. Personally, I would shut off ALL exports of electricity to the SOTC, if I could.
You idiots can sit in the dark and do some serious navel gazing.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Right now (at least in AZ), the cost of a home solar installation is somewhere between $40,000 and $60,000. You get a $15,000 and change tax write off from the feds you can take over three years. AZ gives you another $1000 tax break. This means for the typical solar array buyer they save somewhere between $20 and $50 a month over paying for electricity after taking the rebates. Without those tax breaks, solar costs more than just buying the electricity.
California has mandated that madness on all new homes in the state with the developer taking all the rebates. The buyer ends up paying the equivalent of about $20,000 to $30,000 extra for the home when bought in increased cost and interest in their mortgage.
Just wait until the greentards where you live ban natural gas. This is particularly bad for those that live somewhere cold much of the year. Heating your house on electrical will bankrupt you. You'll probably have to go to a wood pellet stove (horribly environmentally unfriendly) to do it like Germans have. Or, install an electric tankless hot water heater and watch your electric bill skyrocket due to the common billing practice of utilities using your highest KW load of the month. Every time you have that thing go on, your KW usage goes through the rafters. Normal home power usage is typically 5 to 8 KW. When your tankless goes on it shoots up to 30 to 40 KW while running. That will often double or triple your KWH rate from the utility. Your solar panels can't handle that much in any case so you get screwed.
Isn't going green just the best?
California has mandated that madness on all new homes in the state with the developer taking all the rebates. The buyer ends up paying the equivalent of about $20,000 to $30,000 extra for the home when bought in increased cost and interest in their mortgage.
Just wait until the greentards where you live ban natural gas. This is particularly bad for those that live somewhere cold much of the year. Heating your house on electrical will bankrupt you. You'll probably have to go to a wood pellet stove (horribly environmentally unfriendly) to do it like Germans have. Or, install an electric tankless hot water heater and watch your electric bill skyrocket due to the common billing practice of utilities using your highest KW load of the month. Every time you have that thing go on, your KW usage goes through the rafters. Normal home power usage is typically 5 to 8 KW. When your tankless goes on it shoots up to 30 to 40 KW while running. That will often double or triple your KWH rate from the utility. Your solar panels can't handle that much in any case so you get screwed.
Isn't going green just the best?
Let us use the numbers YOU used ...
Your bill in NOW $215 ... AND ... you had ZERO service during the 'black out' which is when you probably needed the electricity the most. "EXPLODING" ??? ... SURE LOOKS LIKE IT TO ME.
Very few people would consider a yearly rise of 7.5% to be exploding.
I do not live in California, nor do I have anything directly to do with power plants. I will say the blackout problems much of the USA has is because of poor infrastructure modernization, but that is more the power grid than the power plants. That has hit Texas hard, but may hit California too.
States like Texas are in a lot of economic trouble. It would be disaster for them if they lost exports. California is flush these days, so there are a lot of people lining up to export to them.
So go ahead, have yourself a good cry. When you feel better, come back and talk.
You are using the past tense for a prediction about the future. I believe much of the country will have worsening blackouts because of failures to modernize the grid, but California is actually doing something about it. That costs money, but not as much money as you think, and saves money in the long term. Meanwhile Texas is just taking money for corruption.
gemini104104
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Its likely the fault of repukes who did not take climate change seriously and never supported democratic legislators to enforce a plan to mitigate the problem of power outages.
So now California and even surrounding states have a task as a result of also mitigating the affects of incompetent planning and resolution. Yet this is not the first time this crisis has occurred in the West where droughts and the consumption of water has created this type of situation:
California suffered its first rolling blackouts in nearly 20 years because energy planners didn’t take climate change into account and didn’t line up the right power sources to keep the lights on after sundown, according to a damning self-evaluation released Tuesday by three state agencies."
https://www.latimes.com/environment...olling-blackouts-climate-change-poor-planning