Blacks have never supported this war; enlistees declining

The question I have is why did it take the rest of America so long to figure out the fraud of this war when it was so plainly obvious from the very beginning?

If blacks in this country, including black politicians, were so correct in the analysis of the Iraq war, Afghanistan, and George Bush, why hasn't that analysis risen to the forefront of political discussion?

Why did Al Gore choose Lieberman over qualified black politicians?

If the military can't recruit effectively from the inner cities, does a draft appear likely.
 
The question I have is why did it take the rest of America so long to figure out the fraud of this war when it was so plainly obvious from the very beginning?

If blacks in this country, including black politicians, were so correct in the analysis of the Iraq war, Afghanistan, and George Bush, why hasn't that analysis risen to the forefront of political discussion?

Why did Al Gore choose Lieberman over qualified black politicians?

If the military can't recruit effectively from the inner cities, does a draft appear likely.
If there is an attack on Iran, if there is a ground war there, I can see no way for them to avoid such a circumstance.

Again, I call for formal declarations each time we go to war because of such. I find that such an action would protect us against such future attacks.
 
The question I have is why did it take the rest of America so long to figure out the fraud of this war when it was so plainly obvious from the very beginning?

If blacks in this country, including black politicians, were so correct in the analysis of the Iraq war, Afghanistan, and George Bush, why hasn't that analysis risen to the forefront of political discussion?

Why did Al Gore choose Lieberman over qualified black politicians?

If the military can't recruit effectively from the inner cities, does a draft appear likely.

My friends and I have tried to figure out your first question. We thought that maybe it was because experience makes wisdom. For instance, how likely is knowledge of the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment to make one trust the government with either your welfare or the truth?

As for Gore choosing Lieberman over a qualified black politician, did any qualified black politicians publically spank Clinton for his affair? Because that seems to have been the primary qualification for that slot, which is pretty scary.

About the draft, I haven't figured that one out yet. Military experts say our troops are dead come Spring of 08. Broken.

Are they going to draft their way out of it, or just slap some scotch tape on it and deny that we are completely screwed? You know, if you go by past actions, it seems that complete denial is likely.
 
If there is an attack on Iran, if there is a ground war there, I can see no way for them to avoid such a circumstance.

Again, I call for formal declarations each time we go to war because of such. I find that such an action would protect us against such future attacks.

I don't think that is the answer because weak politicians will always bend to the will of the plutocrats.

When the Congressional Black Caucus stood up against Bush and his war, not a single US Senator would take a stand with them. They all bended over and took Bush up the ass without addressing the concerns of the CBC.
 
My friends and I have tried to figure out your first question. We thought that maybe it was because experience makes wisdom. For instance, how likely is knowledge of the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment to make one trust the government with either your welfare or the truth?

In my opinion you've answered the question correctly. Blacks are far less prone to fall for the "patriotism" "God loves America" bullshit then the brest of America appears to be, and have a far more critical eye of this nation and it's politicans.

Again, the CBC tried to stop it long before the dead bodies started piling up.

As for Gore choosing Lieberman over a qualified black politician, did any qualified black politicians publically spank Clinton for his affair? Because that seems to have been the primary qualification for that slot, which is pretty scary.

I believe that is correct also, but I also believe there is an element, even among democrats, that believes blacks can speak to issues like racism, poverty, and equal opportunity, but foreign policy is beyond our grasp.

I wouldn't call that racism as much as I'd deem it paternalism. I think some of that is also true in questioning Obama's lack of "experience."

About the draft, I haven't figured that one out yet. Military experts say our troops are dead come Spring of 08. Broken.

Are they going to draft their way out of it, or just slap some scotch tape on it and deny that we are completely screwed? You know, if you go by past actions, it seems that complete denial is likely.

True, but if the neocons continue to push for more war, it can't rest solely on the backs of our already broken military. Chicken-hawks beware.
 
Draft is a death word until a Dem gets in the WH. Then the repubs will say. "The Dems will make our country weak, they Don't have a plan to keep our military strong."
 
I might also add that when the CBC tried to stop this war, Ron Paul was nowhere to be found.

I'm not sure what this means.

I always found Ron Paul's opposition to the war to be credible and articulate. Was there something CBC did, that Paul opposed?
 
Please tell us a war blacks have been for.
Seems most likely supporters are rich repubs not likely to fight.
 
They go into recruit in inner cities because of simple economics: people there are more desperate for a job. Because of Liberal Democrat policies in inner cities of being soft on crime, favoring high taxes and high regulation, there are less job-creating businesses around, so people, especially young people are more apt to join the military.
Look at the unemployment rate in Liberal Democrat run cities, much much higher than the national average:

Examples:
Chicago - 9.8% unemployment
Detroit - 12.3% unemployment
Houston - 7.1% unemployment
Milwaukee - 9.2% unemployment
New York - 7.9% unemployment
Philadelphia - 10.2% unemployment
San Francisco - 7.5% unemployment
http://stats.bls.gov/opub/gp/pdf/gp02_24.pdf

In almost all cases, the inner cities in America show unemployment way higher than their state as a whole. Now who runs inner cities, who has been running them for decades? All Democrats, there is virtually no Republicans in government in inner cities, it votes in huge percentages for Democrats.

Not that we should need numbers to see the obvious, just walk into any Democrat run inner city like Detroit or Chicago, the blight is obvious, the despair omnipresent.
And it's a spiral, as more become dependant on government, less are interested in voting for tax cuts or less government that would improve their situation. They are trapped in dependance and THAT more than anything is why we must always fight for a less government view.

Is this the America we want with Hillary and Democrats in the house and senate?
They are all proposing the exact same policies that have run down America's inner cities....why, tell me why on this earth we should allow them to do the same to the rest of us?

We can do better and we deserve better. Vote Republican or Libertarian and let's get a more prosperous business environment where all can have more and better jobs.
This country is more than strong enough to be that and we need to stop looking to government and start looking to ourselves.
 
Please tell us a war blacks have been for.
Seems most likely supporters are rich repubs not likely to fight.
The Civil war. There was a lot of Repubs who fought in that war and it was hardly for them to get richer.

Also though recruiters recruit in inner cities they also do so in the country, which is full of Conservative Republicans and they do fight in wars.
 
They go into recruit in inner cities because of simple economics: people there are more desperate for a job. Because of Liberal Democrat policies in inner cities of being soft on crime, favoring high taxes and high regulation, there are less job-creating businesses around, so people, especially young people are more apt to join the military.
Look at the unemployment rate in Liberal Democrat run cities, much much higher than the national average:

Examples:
Chicago - 9.8% unemployment
Detroit - 12.3% unemployment
Houston - 7.1% unemployment
Milwaukee - 9.2% unemployment
New York - 7.9% unemployment
Philadelphia - 10.2% unemployment
San Francisco - 7.5% unemployment
http://stats.bls.gov/opub/gp/pdf/gp02_24.pdf

In almost all cases, the inner cities in America show unemployment way higher than their state as a whole. Now who runs inner cities, who has been running them for decades? All Democrats, there is virtually no Republicans in government in inner cities, it votes in huge percentages for Democrats.

Not that we should need numbers to see the obvious, just walk into any Democrat run inner city like Detroit or Chicago, the blight is obvious, the despair omnipresent.
And it's a spiral, as more become dependant on government, less are interested in voting for tax cuts or less government that would improve their situation. They are trapped in dependance and THAT more than anything is why we must always fight for a less government view.

Is this the America we want with Hillary and Democrats in the house and senate?
They are all proposing the exact same policies that have run down America's inner cities....why, tell me why on this earth we should allow them to do the same to the rest of us?

We can do better and we deserve better. Vote Republican or Libertarian and let's get a more prosperous business environment where all can have more and better jobs.
This country is more than strong enough to be that and we need to stop looking to government and start looking to ourselves.

1. High unemployment does not imply that unemployed people want to go murder innocent people for a job.

2. Vote republican to put people back to work????? Absolutely mindless and demonstrates that you don't have a clue what you're talking about, not to mention that there is, and has been, republicans as mayor of New York.

3. Most inner cities are suffering from declining manufacturing losses, including the auto industry .. which would be true no matter who was the mayor.

4. The raise in minimum wages comes from democrats and businesses do not suffer from that raise as republicans and libertarians claim. In fact, many states have raised their minimum wages above the federal level and have still experienced job growth.

5. Bill Clinton was President during the most prosperous time in American history. It was the best financial performance ever. During his term of office, the United States enjoyed the longest economic expansion in American history. Also, the federal government paid down the national debt at a record rate. Wealth creation, home ownership, job growth, productivity improvements, and many other economic measures all improved dramatically.

More jobs were created under Clinton than Bush 1, Reagan, and Bush Jr. COMBINED

The economy cranked out fewer jobs under Bush -- by millions -- than it had by the same point in the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton.

Under Bush, the economy produced 3.7 million new jobs from January 2001 through December of last year based on nonfarm payroll figures collected by the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics.

When Clinton was in the White House, the economy generated 17.6 million jobs during the corresponding period -- from January 1993 to December 1998. Under Reagan, 9.5 million jobs were created from January 1981 to December 1986.

Those are the two most-recent two-term presidents before Bush. Some 2.6 million jobs were created during the four-year term of Bush's father, who took office in January 1989.

Reagan had two recessions -- one of which began in July 1981 and ended in November 1982. It was the most severe recession since the Great Depression, pushing the monthly unemployment rate as high as 10.8 percent.

The fact that you don't know this most obvious truth and you would even dare propose that republicans should be elected to create jobs in spite of the all the evidence, demonstrates why you would be dumb enough to be a racist.
 
Please tell us a war blacks have been for.
Seems most likely supporters are rich repubs not likely to fight.

African-Americans have been as supportive as the restn of the population on wars where there was a legitimate American interest, in fact, African-American men fought to join into the fight during WWII and the Korean War. The Tuskegee Airmen are an example of that.
 
African-Americans have been as supportive as the restn of the population on wars where there was a legitimate American interest, in fact, African-American men fought to join into the fight during WWII and the Korean War. The Tuskegee Airmen are an example of that.
How was there a legitimate American interest in the Korean war?
 
How was there a legitimate American interest in the Korean war?

Duh .. could it be because it was an expansion of the Cold War, and after China turned communist in 1949, Truman feared that Japan would be next, and it turned into a proxy war between the US and Russia and China .. and America saw it essential to stopping the spread of communism?
 
LOFL, Dano had to go back to the civil war to get one blacks support.
thant's a bet you hurt your brain right down the the bootstraps.
 
Duh .. could it be because it was an expansion of the Cold War, and after China turned communist in 1949, Truman feared that Japan would be next, and it turned into a proxy war between the US and Russia and China .. and America saw it essential to stopping the spread of communism?

Yes thank you for the obvious, I am fully aware of the historical reasons STATED for why it started, what I'm asking is how was it in America's interest?
Or how about how was it in America's interest anymore than say the Vietnam war, which a lot of blacks did not fight in?
America also saw Iraq essential to stopping WMD production to terrorists.
 
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