BLM Declares Looting "OK", Says It's "Reparations"

Yeah, so then why would you think invoking something that cannot be proven (either unwillingly or impossibly) is somehow acceptable best practices or is in good faith?

Because you've done that several times, Flash. Several.

You can prove facts. You can't prove stuff like whether my wife of being fake, asking the poster to prove he has a Hispanic wife, or asking people to prove anecdotes.

Learn the difference between things you can prove (facts) and things you cannot on a message board.
 
No, I tell posters to prove it when they invoke unverifiable anecdotes about themselves, like you've done dozens of times.
It is silly to say anyone doesn't know any black women.... or tell someone they don't won guns....you do realize that, don't you?
 
You can prove facts. You can't prove stuff like whether my wife of being fake, asking the poster to prove he has a Hispanic wife, or asking people to prove anecdotes.

Well, there are several ways you can prove your wife is real, or the other person can prove theirs is Hispanic, or any of these anecdotes are true...but it puts your anonymity at risk.

So, I totally get and understand why you do what you do. You toss it out there knowing it can't be proven either way, so you just end up spamming the debate with horsecrap intended to deviate from a real conversation.

I don't find it very effective and it always, always, always, always ends the same way:

You: My wife is X

Me: Prove it.

You: No.

::shrugs::
 
Learn the difference between things you can prove (facts) and things you cannot on a message board.

So you just gave up the whole game right there, Flash.

Admitting that you can't prove the "fact" of your wife on a message board.

But you totally can...it just puts your anonymity at risk.
 
Well, there are several ways you can prove your wife is real, or the other person can prove theirs is Hispanic, or any of these anecdotes are true...but it puts your anonymity at risk.

So, I totally get and understand why you do what you do. You toss it out there knowing it can't be proven either way, so you just end up spamming the debate with horsecrap intended to deviate from a real conversation.

I don't find it very effective and it always, always, always, always ends the same way:

You: My wife is X

Me: Prove it.

You: No.

::shrugs::

It is like claiming you are Jewish, had covid, or have empathy. Totally false and unable to prove.

You believing me saying my wife is a minority or that (Earl?)'s wife is Hispanic was trying to establish some kind of credibility among minorities is laughable and shows your mentality. Neither we or our wives need to establish credibility with anybody. Being a minority does not make a person any better or worse than anybody else.

Those trying to justify looting to show they are empathetic is like the little kid who wants to hang out with the cool kids but knows he does not fit in.
 
So you just gave up the whole game right there, Flash.

Admitting that you can't prove the "fact" of your wife on a message board.

But you totally can...it just puts your anonymity at risk.

But you can't prove you are Jewish or had covid.

This is not a game to me. I don't see any winners or losers on a message board. Those who think is it a game are those who declare they are winners when they have nothing left to offer.

You want to be a victim so bad but since you are a privileged, entitled white male you have to invent the Jewish and covid labels.
 
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It is like claiming you are Jewish, had covid, or have empathy. Totally false and unable to prove

Well, not entirely, and that's why I don't lean on those anecdotes like you do.

I can make arguments without them, but you cannot.

Whether you choose to engage those arguments in good faith falls entirely on you.

And empathy is not something that can't be proven on a message board.
 
You believing me saying my wife is a minority or that (Earl?)'s wife is Hispanic was trying to establish some kind of credibility among minorities is laughable and shows your mentality. Neither we or our wives need to establish credibility with anybody. Being a minority does not make a person any better or worse than anybody else.

Flash the rhetorical problem you face is that you made your anecdotes central to your entire argument here. They serve as the foundational basis of what you're saying. So because you chose to do that, I choose to dig into this anecdote because all anecdotes are filtered through inherent biases. Like your biased belief that insitutional racism doesn't exist and doesn't put obstacles and roadblocks in front of people who aren't privileged like you.

If you were to do what you did in a regular debate, you'd be disqualified. Or the opposing side would seize on it exactly as I have here. So by invoking these dumb anecdotes, you don't increase your credibility, you throw it all into question. Because an intrepid or savvy person will start asking questions that you either can't or won't answer, and that has the effect of casting everything else you say into doubt. In a real debate, the moderator would have invalidated your statement because it was anecdotal and unverifiable...therefore not admissable.

So I am indulging you by talking about this wife of yours, the details of which you are obscuring for effect. So you toss something out there, knowing it can't be validated, in a cheap and bad faith attempt to bridge the credibility gap you have.
 
Those trying to justify looting to show they are empathetic is like the little kid who wants to hang out with the cool kids but knows he does not fit in.

Flash is missing the big theme of what she said; that institutional racism has created a system that perpetually treats people differently based on their race and gender, and you have personally exploited that system for your own personal gain and don't think you should feel guilty (re: held accountable) for it.

You didn't build your life through hard work or effort, Flash. It was handed to you the moment you were born. You didn't "work hard". You didn't earn it. You were handed it. And what you were handed, other people weren't. So they're pretty pissed about it because you've lazily glided by on it, never being at serious risk of anything.

That's why I say you have no empathy. You're a selfish, disgusting, racist sociopath who has a much higher opinion of his own mediocrity than anyone else.
 
This is not a game to me. I don't see any winners or losers on a message board. Those who think is it a game are those who declare they are winners when they have nothing left to offer.

The "game" in my context refers to how you conduct yourself in bad faith on these boards...and probably in your life too.
 
You want to be a victim so bad but since you are a privileged, entitled white male you have to invent the Jewish and covid labels.

Well, you don't know shit about me because I don't volunteer personal anecdotes as the basis of my argument.

And I wholly and completely acknowledge my privilege, which is why I have no issue giving platforms to those who don't have that privilege, whereas you just tell those people they're wrong without listening to them.

Admitting that looting is the last recourse for these people to gain back some of the wealth the system you've exploited for your own benefit has stolen from them, would be a tacit admission that this image you try to give people of yourself is really a gigantic, posturing pile of horseshit.

And that means your stupid "bOtHsIdErIsm" wasn't borne from a careful and critical review of anything, but instead a lazy way to maintain that self-image that is so important for you to steward in an attempt to look "above it all".

You don't look "above it all" when you bOtHsIdEs...you look lazy. But laziness is the common theme with you. You are one of the laziest people I've ever seen.
 
Flash the rhetorical problem you face is that you made your anecdotes central to your entire argument here. They serve as the foundational basis of what you're saying. So because you chose to do that, I choose to dig into this anecdote because all anecdotes are filtered through inherent biases. Like your biased belief that insitutional racism doesn't exist and doesn't put obstacles and roadblocks in front of people who aren't privileged like you.

If you were to do what you did in a regular debate, you'd be disqualified. Or the opposing side would seize on it exactly as I have here. So by invoking these dumb anecdotes, you don't increase your credibility, you throw it all into question. Because an intrepid or savvy person will start asking questions that you either can't or won't answer, and that has the effect of casting everything else you say into doubt. In a real debate, the moderator would have invalidated your statement because it was anecdotal and unverifiable...therefore not admissable.

So I am indulging you by talking about this wife of yours, the details of which you are obscuring for effect. So you toss something out there, knowing it can't be validated, in a cheap and bad faith attempt to bridge the credibility gap you have.

Like being Jewish, having covid, or being emphathetic?

I never mentioned or discussed institutional racism. Claiming I denied it exists is another of your strawmen--making up stuff people never said and arguing with your own statements.
 
Flash is missing the big theme of what she said; that institutional racism has created a system that perpetually treats people differently based on their race and gender, and you have personally exploited that system for your own personal gain and don't think you should feel guilty (re: held accountable) for it.

You didn't build your life through hard work or effort, Flash. It was handed to you the moment you were born. You didn't "work hard". You didn't earn it. You were handed it. And what you were handed, other people weren't. So they're pretty pissed about it because you've lazily glided by on it, never being at serious risk of anything.

That's why I say you have no empathy. You're a selfish, disgusting, racist sociopath who has a much higher opinion of his own mediocrity than anyone else.

I didn't miss anything. It is an often repeated claim. You are just gullible enough to believe it.

You didn't build your life through hard work or effort, Flash. It was handed to you the moment you were born. You didn't "work hard". You didn't earn it. You were handed it. And what you were handed, other people weren't. So they're pretty pissed about it because you've lazily glided by on it, never being at serious risk of anything.

That makes us identical. "They" must be pissed at you also. The only difference is that you think posting on message boards fools people into thinking you care. You are a parlor pinko.
 
Right, but I never make those things the central piece of my argument.

But you do. Constantly and habitually.

You need to break that bad faith habit.

I made one statement about my wife. You have said many times you are Jewish. That makes you a lying hypocrite--but we already knew that.
 
That makes us identical. "They" must be pissed at you also. The only difference is that you think posting on message boards fools people into thinking you care. You are a parlor pinko.

They are pissed.

But the difference between us is that I allow myself to accept and acknowledge what they say and argue, whereas you deny it completely in bad faith.
 
I made one statement about my wife. You have said many times you are Jewish. That makes you a lying hypocrite--but we already knew that.

Yeah, but Flash, the thing is that the statement you made about your wife was central to your entire argument...that because your wife hasn't expressed something to you, means that she has nothing to express, therefore any "complaining" done by others about the system is illegitimate.

So if you didn't invoke your wife in an argument about good minorities and bad ones, what would you have argued instead? If your personal life is out of bounds, how would you make your argument?
 
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I made one statement about my wife. You have said many times you are Jewish. That makes you a lying hypocrite--but we already knew that.

Yeah, I've said I'm Jewish, but do I invoke that heritage as the central piece of my argument? No. But you do. Habitually. And it always ends the same way; with your credibility thrown further into doubt.

You should know by now that I am very surgical and exact when I latch onto something...and if it's something as fungible as your values or given circumstances, I will instinctually drill down into it in order to suss out the bullshit, sophistry, and bias. You've been reading my posts for 2 years now...I don't deviate from that. So you should expect that healthy skepticism and doubt from me.

I am not a "take them at their word" kind of person.
 
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