BLM up for a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!

Dutch Uncle said:
Labor and management is a symbiotic relationship; they both need each other to survive. If one is too powerful and dominates the other, the balance is disturbed and it begins to fall apart. The Republicans have succeeded in effectively destroying private-sector unionism in the USA.

Public sector unionism has grown too powerful but a large part of that is from fucking politicians bribing them with lucrative pension plans and work rules to the point cities and states were going broke. It's easy for politicians to promise benefits that stick it to taxpayers 10 years in the future.

Your father's experience is a good example of unionism. The crime connection of the Teamsters and the excesses of the UAW in the 1970 and 1994 are examples of harmful imbalances. In the case of the UAW, it led to automation. Returning strikers had to pass a technical exam (in order of seniority) to qualify them to work the new automation. Older workers used to working an rivet gun or a pneumatic lug nut wrench often failed learning how to use the computerized tech and were forced into retirement/unemployment.

I didn't know shit about unions until after leaving active duty military. In my first year with the airlines I found that passengers should be very, very happy their pilots are unionized for safety reasons.
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Accurate synapsis. I'd note that public service workers who agreed to lower wages in lieu of better pensions, are now getting screwed out of those pensions in many cases.
 
Concart said:
Because violence does not advance peaceful protests. it is the enemy of a peaceful movement. In general, there have been protesters and there have been rioters, and the two for the most part are mutually exclusive. I don't support rioting and arson. My position is consistent. All that being said, those people at the capitol, and anyone who supports them, believes in the violent overthrow of a legally elected government. There is nothing peaceful about it.
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We agree. Clearly, there are groups who travel far and wide whenever there is an uprising. They seek to loot and destroy property, and have no interest in the cause they are attending.
 
Althea said:
Accurate synapsis. I'd note that public service workers who agreed to lower wages in lieu of better pensions, are now getting screwed out of those pensions in many cases.
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...because the cities are going bankrupt?

To reiterate; most of those are city and state problems. Rarely should the Feds become involved even though that's exactly what the Republicans have done since the 1960s by empowering corporations with the rights of citizens, making money "free speech" and eroding the power of collective citizens.

The efforts to prevent another Gamestop move by citizens freely assembling is going to be led by Republicans and corporate Democrats.
 
blackascoal said:
Seriously, try to understand that I am talking to someone of the same. Political mindset as people who believe that fires are caused by Jewish funded laser beams from outer space .. but they don’t believe in science.

Think about that for a moment. Who in the fuck would believe some stupid shit like that?
Probably the same people you can tell to drink bleach to protect themselves against a virus.

AND, good sit, you aren’t just politically associated with them, YOU’RE ONE OF THEM. Your brainless and telling “leave it to the Left” comment validates that you are indeed one of them, and it demonstrates your blatant dishonesty, lack of integrity and character.

I’ve seen this movie before. It was called “THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS” 1950ish. About a bunch of space pods showing up in a city that could snatch people’s bodies and replace it with another body if they fell asleep. The body they replaced it with could function but it was brainless, soulless, controlled. You guys don’t believe in science anyway, so you should get a bunch of friends together to come over and watch that movie. Don’t worry about the virus. Only humans have to worry about that. Besides, I’m afraid it’s already too late for you. See if your dog still likes you?

Point being, anything I say to you is way over your head. No disrespect intended. You’re probably a nice guy, but completely incapable of dealing with truth. Maybe it might pop the bubble you live in. You people should be studied. There is indeed a sane, honest, and rational conversation to be had about murder rates in Black communities, but as my mother used to say, “that’s grown folks talk.” Children aren’t allowed. So it’s not that I’m avoiding you, you just ain’t grown enough for that conversation.

You and I could joust about this for a while but the Conc,lesion will remain the same. The name of this song is “What You Think Doesn’t Mean Shit”
Don’t like BLM? Sing my song.
Think they are a “violent” group. Sing my song
Don’t think they even deserve GLOBAL recognition and awards? Sing my song.

Obviously that train has already left the station. Do yourself a favor and read about YOUR history in the story of Black Wall Street. 1921, not far removed from slavery. Therein you’ll discover why what you think .. sing my song.
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Your song is dissonant, ugly, and full of lies. No thx. :)
 
Althea said:
If you don't have access to any form of media, you wouldn't know that intelligence agencies knew well in advance of the riot that there was a plan to storm the Capitol. Otherwise, you're just pushing MAGA propaganda.
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FBI may have warned of a possible attack.

The Capitol Police sure weren't prepared.

In fact, they admitted just that.
 
blackascoal said:
Seriously, try to understand that I am talking to someone of the same. Political mindset as people who believe that fires are caused by Jewish funded laser beams from outer space .. but they don’t believe in science.

Think about that for a moment. Who in the fuck would believe some stupid shit like that?
Probably the same people you can tell to drink bleach to protect themselves against a virus.

AND, good sit, you aren’t just politically associated with them, YOU’RE ONE OF THEM. Your brainless and telling “leave it to the Left” comment validates that you are indeed one of them, and it demonstrates your blatant dishonesty, lack of integrity and character.

I’ve seen this movie before. It was called “THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS” 1950ish. About a bunch of space pods showing up in a city that could snatch people’s bodies and replace it with another body if they fell asleep. The body they replaced it with could function but it was brainless, soulless, controlled. You guys don’t believe in science anyway, so you should get a bunch of friends together to come over and watch that movie. Don’t worry about the virus. Only humans have to worry about that. Besides, I’m afraid it’s already too late for you. See if your dog still likes you?

Point being, anything I say to you is way over your head. No disrespect intended. You’re probably a nice guy, but completely incapable of dealing with truth. Maybe it might pop the bubble you live in. You people should be studied. There is indeed a sane, honest, and rational conversation to be had about murder rates in Black communities, but as my mother used to say, “that’s grown folks talk.” Children aren’t allowed. So it’s not that I’m avoiding you, you just ain’t grown enough for that conversation.

You and I could joust about this for a while but the Conc,lesion will remain the same. The name of this song is “What You Think Doesn’t Mean Shit”
Don’t like BLM? Sing my song.
Think they are a “violent” group. Sing my song
Don’t think they even deserve GLOBAL recognition and awards? Sing my song.

Obviously that train has already left the station. Do yourself a favor and read about YOUR history in the story of Black Wall Street. 1921, not far removed from slavery. Therein you’ll discover why what you think .. sing my song.
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None of these fringe examples have anything to do with police killing far less than criminals.

Police being necessary to protect us.

I condemn police brutality.

That doesn't concern most police, however.
 
Althea said:
I'm not pro union, but I recognize their right to organize. I used to say that they outlived their necessity, but the last 8 years have shown that Red states' actions to destroy them have been working. I know a number of union workers who focus more on what they aren't required to do, as opposed to what they are.

I've been a scab on a few union jobs back in the day, and was surrounded by incompetence. Granted, in the beginning, a union construction worker was properly trained, and was part of an army of labor that could tackle any job.

As the years passed, they grew fat and lazy. Greedy too. If you study the Air Traffic Control union that Reagan busted, they shot themselves in the foot. UAW did the same thing, and suffered greatly when the economy tanked in '08.

My father was a lifelong Teamster, where a union was necessary to protect unskilled labor from greedy bosses. His pension and bennies would make most people jealous. In that sense, unions work for the common man.

But police unions that protect criminals, and act to keep the status quo, are a problem.
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The loss of unions represent a loss in real wages.
 
reagansghost said:
The Black Lives Matter movement has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel peace prize for the way its call for systemic change has spread around the world.

In his nomination papers, the Norwegian MP Petter Eide said the movement had forced countries outside the US to grapple with racism within their own societies.

“I find that one of the key challenges we have seen in America, but also in Europe and Asia, is the kind of increasing conflict based on inequality,” Eide said. “Black Lives Matter has become a very important worldwide movement to fight racial injustice.

“They have had a tremendous achievement in raising global awareness and consciousness about racial injustice.”


oops there goes Donnie's peace prize!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...er-nobel-peace-prize-petter-eide-norweigan-mp
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That seems like a stretch. Who would even accept the award?
 
Jan Sobieski said:
blackascoal said:
Seriously, try to understand that I am talking to someone of the same. Political mindset as people who believe that fires are caused by Jewish funded laser beams from outer space .. but they don’t believe in science.

Think about that for a moment. Who in the fuck would believe some stupid shit like that?
Probably the same people you can tell to drink bleach to protect themselves against a virus.

AND, good sit, you aren’t just politically associated with them, YOU’RE ONE OF THEM. Your brainless and telling “leave it to the Left” comment validates that you are indeed one of them, and it demonstrates your blatant dishonesty, lack of integrity and character.

I’ve seen this movie before. It was called “THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS” 1950ish. About a bunch of space pods showing up in a city that could snatch people’s bodies and replace it with another body if they fell asleep. The body they replaced it with could function but it was brainless, soulless, controlled. You guys don’t believe in science anyway, so you should get a bunch of friends together to come over and watch that movie. Don’t worry about the virus. Only humans have to worry about that. Besides, I’m afraid it’s already too late for you. See if your dog still likes you?

Point being, anything I say to you is way over your head. No disrespect intended. You’re probably a nice guy, but completely incapable of dealing with truth. Maybe it might pop the bubble you live in. You people should be studied. There is indeed a sane, honest, and rational conversation to be had about murder rates in Black communities, but as my mother used to say, “that’s grown folks talk.” Children aren’t allowed. So it’s not that I’m avoiding you, you just ain’t grown enough for that conversation.

You and I could joust about this for a while but the Conc,lesion will remain the same. The name of this song is “What You Think Doesn’t Mean Shit”
Don’t like BLM? Sing my song.
Think they are a “violent” group. Sing my song
Don’t think they even deserve GLOBAL recognition and awards? Sing my song.

Obviously that train has already left the station. Do yourself a favor and read about YOUR history in the story of Black Wall Street. 1921, not far removed from slavery. Therein you’ll discover why what you think .. sing my song.
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None of these fringe examples have anything to do with police killing far less than criminals.

Police being necessary to protect us.

I condemn police brutality.

That doesn't concern most police, however.
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Sooooo....you don't mind if your daddy or mommy are wrongfully shot by the police because we need police? WTF?

Blackstone's Ratio is common in modern law: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Same goes for police killing citizens: One case of an innocent citizen death by police or case of police abuse is one case too many.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sooooo....you don't mind if your daddy or mommy are wrongfully shot by the police because we need police? WTF?

Blackstone's Ratio is common in modern law: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Same goes for police killing citizens: One case of an innocent citizen death by police or case of police abuse is one case too many.
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Police are A necessary portion of civilization.

I'm all for reforms of police to screen & reward good cops.

I'm not for completely defending police.

Police protect & serve.
 
Jan Sobieski said:
Police are A necessary portion of civilization.

I'm all for reforms of police to screen & reward good cops.

I'm not for completely defending police.

Police protect & serve.
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Agreed about police. Why are you against those who protest abusive or illegal actions by police?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed about police. Why are you against those who protest abusive or illegal actions by police?
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Why are you against those protest the military!?

The military has killed millions of times more than the police.

Of course, I'm against the George Floyd protests they killed 19 & they looted & destroyed colossal amounts of private property.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I seriously doubt it. If that were the case, they'd have beaten and or killed every cop in the building they ran into. You are arguing that they'd kill politicians when they didn't set out to kill anyone else. The repercussions would have been minor anyway. We can always get a new crop of politicians. Virtually anybody can be a politician after all, look at the current crop of retards, idiots, incoherent nutjobs, and assorted grifters we have now.
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Huh. I guess you'll just have to offer that defense to a federal judge.

Federal prosecutors have offered an ominous new assessment of last week’s siege of the US Capitol by Donald Trump’s supporters, saying in a court filing that rioters intended “to capture and assassinate elected officials”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...lanned-capture-kill-officials-say-prosecutors
 
blackascoal said:
Obviously you don’t know shit about God .. nor do you care to know. Did you know that they can take a mitochondrial sample from YOUR DNA and determine almost exactly what part of Africa you come from? Almost get it down to the village and tribe, what language they spoke. Science must be evil, huh?

Who do you think.made Africans His first people? God did and the truth of the human journey is in your blood.

By the way, your homosexuality is glaring homeboy. Ever been to prison? “Built like brick shithouses, hairy arms and penises” HOW IN THE FUCK DID THAT GET IN THE CONVERSATION???
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Konstenki man 36,000 years ago was genetically like Europeans.

That's a long time.
 
Bulletbob said:
thats a realm joke if I ever heard one 47 killed in their riots, thousand of cops and others hurt, looting of stores open stealing , dragging peooplwe out of cars and beating them,Assaulting people in wheel chairs destroying public and private property ,and some dumb ass nominated them for a peace prize.

that a good one buck of scum bag criminals lazy bastards with really low IQs rioting that should be locked up and held responsible for the billions in damages and cost that was their fault,

And we have morons here who think this is a good thing .

WHATS NEXT WILL DEMOCRATS INSIST THAT A HOME FOR YOUNG GIRLS BE BUILT AND CALL THE CLINTON / EPSTEIN HOME FOR TROUBLED YOUTH ,

maybe A SLEEP THERAPY CLINIC WITH BILL COSBY IN CHARGE

Or maybe the hunter biter home for Chinese under age Chinese girls ,
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Sweetie pie, direct your posts away from criticism about other people's IQ. You're fucking illiterate and never learned how to write in English.
 
Jan Sobieski said:
Why do you support BLM after their racism!?

Oh,wait you support Guno so we know you ONLY condemn one kind of racism.
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For the same reason I support your right to carry a sign saying "STAY STUPID!"

Wrong again, Witold, but most people on JPP know you rode the short bus to school.
 
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