Bob Costas: 'If Javon didn't own a gun he and his gf would be alive'

I think that in many cases the unavailability of a gun will make it less likely that the victim of violence dies.

Perhaps. But what next? Would not the same argument then apply to knives if guns were gone? Would the unavailability of knives also make it less likely that a victim of violence dies?
 
I always love how all of the old men here (and most men here are old or getting there really fast) are such badasses. Half of em if not more probably can barely get up off their sofas.

They have been watching way too many Clint movies.
 
I always love how all of the old men here (and most men here are old or getting there really fast) are such badasses. Half of em if not more probably can barely get up off their sofas.

They have been watching way too many Clint movies.

Go wash your stinky cunt, bitch.
 
Sure, right after you tell Darla to stick to the topic and leave personalities out of it. Is she your cunt?

I can't control what she types. If you pay attention on the board you would know that she and I do not like each other. I simply asked a favor as that word is offensive to me. You can either respect that request or choose not to. I simply asked a favor.
 
You get stupider by the minute.

:rolleyes: Irony is ironic.



If he doesn't have a gun, it's a lot harder to kill her. He might beat the ever loving shit out of her, but it's hard to kill her. With a gun, it's very easy.
Doesn't change that saying she'd be alive is stupid, all the way down to the bone. Defending the same is equally stupid.


No one is pretending that guns are the cause of domestic violence but you. That's why what you said is stupid.
It must be if the absence of such would solve the problem. That's why what you are saying is bone deep stupid.


I thought you had the stupidity meter pegged at 11, but I think yours needs to go to 12.
More irony.

Being beaten to death is not all that common. Being shot and killed is much much much much more prevalent.
Bull.


We're talking about murder, not suicide.

We are talking about BOTH. The statement from Costas covered BOTH. This is one of the reasons your staunch defense of the criminally stupid just makes you stupid.


God forbid Costas have an opinion on the matter and dare speak about gun control. Heaven forfend.

Just let him THINK first and it might, just a little bit, have been slightly more intelligent than this stupid statement that the absence of guns would have absolutely ensured that they'd both be alive today. It just isn't true, is absolutely stupid, and flat absent of thought, understanding of domestic violence, and even absent compassion for those who are victims of domestic violence murders that didn't involve guns. Dismissive stupidity that ensures absolute survival form the absence of a gun is criminally stupid, compassionateless, partisan drivel solely for the promotion of partisan political nonsense.

Somebody so stupid should only be licensed to speak on the one topic they were hired to speak about.


I don't think you can say that not having a gun there wouldn't have saved her life (by the same token, Costas is wrong to say should would be alive). I think it is quite likely that should would be alive because it is a lot more difficult to kill someone without a gun than with a gun (physically as well as mentally). And if he didn't kill her, who knows whether he would have killed himself.

I don't think it likely at all. A man of his ability could, and would have in that type of anger, simply strangle her or break her neck. I believe that the following suicide was an understanding that he just changed his life in a way that made it unlivable, I don't think the absence of a gun would have stopped him from suicide either.

I don't think the absence of a gun would have changed the result at all. I also believe that dismissive stupidity is indefensible. That you would try, even though you realize how stupid it is to say what he did, only underlines you total lack of ability to distance yourself from stupidity if it involves your 'side' of partisanship.
 
I can't control what she types. If you pay attention on the board you would know that she and I do not like each other. I simply asked a favor as that word is offensive to me. You can either respect that request or choose not to. I simply asked a favor.

That makes two of us who don't like her.
 
I was operating under the assumption that Wise Old Man was an old poster under a new name. It's actually a new poster? I think the type of people this place attracts is quite telling. Is it just me or do we end up with the dregs and detritus that get kicked out of every other place they post?
 
This isn't about blaming guns versus blaming the murderer. It about what happens when guns are available versus when they are not.
well that's even more ridiculous. i've owned guns my entire life and not one person in america is dead because of them, and considering my rage level, that's an accomplishment.
 
I was operating under the assumption that Wise Old Man was an old poster under a new name. It's actually a new poster? I think the type of people this place attracts is quite telling. Is it just me or do we end up with the dregs and detritus that get kicked out of every other place they post?

You realize that this site attracted you?
 
I was operating under the assumption that Wise Old Man was an old poster under a new name. It's actually a new poster? I think the type of people this place attracts is quite telling. Is it just me or do we end up with the dregs and detritus that get kicked out of every other place they post?

I have had these kinds of thoughts about the board. There are definitely some real delinquents on here.

Still, I don't see much in the way of higher quality out there. Any board you go to has that "element." SNL does a pretty funny spoof on that once in awhile.
 
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