'Bold-faced lie': George Santos caught falsely claiming that he voted on multiple bil

The House cannot swear in without a Speaker. The rules cannot be voted on without the Speaker. Without rules, or sworn in members, there is no Speaker pro tempore.

Last time this really went long, there was no legislation possible for the entire time.

Good point. I don't think we are likely to see such dramatic results. Boehner says every time members do something obstructionist they get invited to TV and radio appearances.

TV has changed the way Congress operates.
 
All federal spending bills must start in the House of Representatives. We technically have no House of Representatives until the Speaker of the House swears them in, and technically have no Speaker of the House.

That means, no federal spending bills until we get a Speaker of the House. If we never get a Speaker of the House, the government stops spending any money.

That means no federal government.

Spending has been passed for the current fiscal year in the omnibus bill that passed last year. Spending can occur until the end of this fiscal year in October.
 
Good point. I don't think we are likely to see such dramatic results. Boehner says every time members do something obstructionist they get invited to TV and radio appearances.

TV has changed the way Congress operates.

The crazier wing of the Republican Party has seen the power they get from disrupting any government. Even if they back off this time, there will be a next, and a next after that.

But there is no evidence they will back off this time.

We absolutely need a budget (even piecemeal will do), and a debt ceiling increase this year. Right now, those seem difficult at best.
 
The crazier wing of the Republican Party has seen the power they get from disrupting any government. Even if they back off this time, there will be a next, and a next after that.

But there is no evidence they will back off this time.

We absolutely need a budget (even piecemeal will do), and a debt ceiling increase this year. Right now, those seem difficult at best.

He went from 202 to 213 today. That will continue to increase. The dissenters want to be heroes to attract the Trump supporters.
 
Spending has been passed for the current fiscal year in the omnibus bill that passed last year. Spending can occur until the end of this fiscal year in October.

The omnibus bill was not a budget. It left major holes in the actual budget, just taking care of the immediate emergencies. Those holes will need plugging. There are always new spending bills that also need passing.

Then there is the debt ceiling, which if it is not raised the omnibus bill becomes meaningless. The Republicans always have a minor temper tantrum with that. This looks like a preview of that disaster.

We can obviously survive a week without a House. We can probably survive a month without a House. Survival starts looking less likely as the months progress. I doubt we could survive until October.

And remember, it will be the same Republicans slowing down the process for the next two years. Imagine we get a House in August, have a week to pass a debt ceiling, and two months to pass, negotiate, and repass a budget. That would require very quick work, from a Congress that took 7 month just to swear in (a process that usually takes an hour or two).

I guess we can be grateful that this is not a Presidential election year. If this had happened in 2020, and was not resolved by January 20th, we would not be able to have a President. How long do you think America can go without a President?
 
He went from 202 to 213 today. That will continue to increase. The dissenters want to be heroes to attract the Trump supporters.

What is McCarthur forced to give up with each one of these votes he buys?

All of this is still very repairable... But it is going in a very bad direction.
 
The omnibus bill was not a budget. It left major holes in the actual budget, just taking care of the immediate emergencies. Those holes will need plugging. There are always new spending bills that also need passing.

Then there is the debt ceiling, which if it is not raised the omnibus bill becomes meaningless. The Republicans always have a minor temper tantrum with that. This looks like a preview of that disaster.

We can obviously survive a week without a House. We can probably survive a month without a House. Survival starts looking less likely as the months progress. I doubt we could survive until October.

And remember, it will be the same Republicans slowing down the process for the next two years. Imagine we get a House in August, have a week to pass a debt ceiling, and two months to pass, negotiate, and repass a budget. That would require very quick work, from a Congress that took 7 month just to swear in (a process that usually takes an hour or two).

I guess we can be grateful that this is not a Presidential election year. If this had happened in 2020, and was not resolved by January 20th, we would not be able to have a President. How long do you think America can go without a President?

The budget is not the same thing as spending bills. A budget bill just sets the proposed spending for the next year. There is no requirement to pass a budget bill and there were several times when Congress never passed a budget.

The actual appropriation (spending) bills need to be passed. The omnibus bill finalized spending for the 2023 fiscal year that ends Sept 30. There are 12 appropriation bills for 12 different parts of the government. Sometimes they are passed individually but often they are held up and all passed together to make sure there is no reneging on any agreements as to spending for one part or another.

Congress hasn't passed all the spending bills on time in probably decades. They keep the government running after Sept 30 with continuing resolutions.
 
What is McCarthur forced to give up with each one of these votes he buys?

All of this is still very repairable... But it is going in a very bad direction.

Some of the procedural changes sound good. Certainly, the complaints by members of how it currently operates are legitimate. Too many bills are passed by unanimous consent.
 
Kevin is speaker in name only. He gave away the speaker's powers to get the title he coveted so badly. He has allowed the insurrectionists subset to pick their committees. That is a big power of the speaker. He has agreed that if ONE person thinks he is doing something wrong, they can force a new speaker vote. The Trumpys are planning on that. Those anti-American assholes will have power over the rules committee. They made him agree to put their conspiracies on the table. Kevin is gutless.
 
Santos’ official U.S. House website (paid for with your tax dollars,) the “perpetual liar” claims he “voted ‘nay’ on the House omnibus bill, which would be difficult given it was Dec. 23 and Santos had yet to take office.”

Congressman(-elect) Ritchie Torres (D-NY) tweeted a screenshot of the false claim from Santos’ website.


Santos, who – like every member of the House of Representatives, including incumbents – is technically not a congressman since he has not been sworn in yet, thanks to the Republicans who have now spent two days and six votes and have yet to elect a Speaker. No one can be sworn in until a Speaker has been chosen.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...A15YLzh?cvid=6f1d4d58eca14fcc91e19960c16c7974

Why do you hate gays?
 
He said he is gay. Does that mean he is? He lied about everything. He may have said that to get the gay vote. His lies covered every voting bloc in his district. We hate liars. You hate gays.

If someone with a penis says they are a woman they aren't a woman? I can't wait untill all your retarded leftists buddies hear about this. You don't hate liars you just hate other people's liars. If you people hated liars Brandon wouldn't be president.
 
He said he is gay. Does that mean he is? He lied about everything. He may have said that to get the gay vote. His lies covered every voting bloc in his district. We hate liars. You hate gays.

Err, If I am a male and claim to be a female, does that mean he/she is? See how that works?
 
Why do you hate gays?

Is he or isn't he gay? This is from the Daily Fail so it must be true.

"During the 2022 election cycle, Republican George Santos of New York described himself as being gay and married to his pharmacist husband. Now, a bombshell report from the Daily Beast alleges that there is no record of that marriage.

There is, however, a record showing that Santos was married to a woman named Uadla Vieira, a native of Brazil, until 2019. The couple was married in 2012."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11566223/George-Santos-openly-gay-Republican-congressman-elect-married-woman-2019.html
 
Is he or isn't he gay? This is from the Daily Fail so it must be true.

"During the 2022 election cycle, Republican George Santos of New York described himself as being gay and married to his pharmacist husband. Now, a bombshell report from the Daily Beast alleges that there is no record of that marriage.

There is, however, a record showing that Santos was married to a woman named Uadla Vieira, a native of Brazil, until 2019. The couple was married in 2012."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11566223/George-Santos-openly-gay-Republican-congressman-elect-married-woman-2019.html

Err, Santos said he was gay, by woke leftie standards, he can declare and identify as a rock and you idiots must accept that fact. You fuckers started this bullshit, now live with your monster.
 
Err, Santos said he was gay, by woke leftie standards, he can declare and identify as a rock and you idiots must accept that fact. You fuckers started this bullshit, now live with your monster.

You are going by woke right-wing standards. If you could understand the previous posts, the leftys are showing skepticism. You are lapping it up.
 
You are going by woke right-wing standards. If you could understand the previous posts, the leftys are showing skepticism. You are lapping it up.

wrong nordy, I am roaring with laughter at the hypocrisy pumped out by you and the other malcontent lefties.
 
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