BP oil find in gulf

uscitizen said:
but bush was no conservative per many former Bushites.
I can find quotes on here to that effect.
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I've said it myself......even then he was more conservative than Gore or Kerry....if you voted for either, you couldn't possibly be more conservative than I am.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I've said it myself......even then he was more conservative than Gore or Kerry....if you voted for either, you couldn't possibly be more conservative than I am.....
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Gore was VP during a period of relatively low debt growth and near balanced budget.


btw I think we are still running under a Bush budget for FY 2009.
 
uscitizen said:
Gore was VP during a period of relatively low debt growth and near balanced budget.


btw I think we are still running under a Bush budget for FY 2009.
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1) Gore certainly had nothing to do with that budget......you need to thank Gingrich for that....

2) the $9trillion in increased national debt we have incurred since January didn't come from Bush's budget for FY2009.....
 
TheHappyHippo said:
The natural sciences are phsyics, astronomy, chemistry, and geology. Geologists can directly test their assumptions. Just because they can't directly see it doesn't disprove what they say any more than it disproves the existence of quasars.
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That's Physics, Astronomy, Chemistry, Biology and Geology.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I've said it myself......even then he was more conservative than Gore or Kerry....if you voted for either, you couldn't possibly be more conservative than I am.....
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Uhh Bush was no conservative either. He was a political reactionary. Which is pretty much what you are too. I'm much closer to being a conservative then you are. Bush and his cohort are the reason why conservatives have abandoned the Republican party in droves and why it's become the party of political reactionaries.
 
leaningright said:
Honestly I have to agree with the older gentleman from Kentucky here. Education/College has it limits when not coupled with some common sense. That should be easy to see just by looking at all the educated idiots out there.

The speculation of the size of the oil find.....a best guess-timate by folks more qualified to make that guess-timate than I am, but I doubt that they are exactly right.
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Oh that's just a silly comment. There's nothing common about sense. That's one of the all time great oxymorons.
 
Damocles said:
Which changes nothing. What return do you expect to get? The reality is the refineries we have will continue to improve efficiency, a new one is too costly and there would be little return on the investment. When it is cost effective, companies would build new refineries, it isn't the only way one would be built.
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Not to mention the fact that no one in their right mind wants to live anywhere close to an oil refinery.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I wonder how much of that $3 billion is for lawyers to process the 1000 permit applications and defend the multiple lawsuits filed by environmentalists......
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and again, have you ever lived next to an oil refinery? Cause this is another topic your popping off at the mouth about that you don't really know jack shit about.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Uhh Bush was no conservative either. He was a political reactionary. Which is pretty much what you are too. I'm much closer to being a conservative then you are. Bush and his cohort are the reason why conservatives have abandoned the Republican party in droves and why it's become the party of political reactionaries.
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I recall the election of 2000.....Bush was nominated because he was supposed to be a moderate, a bridge to independents following the strife of the Clinton administration.....the left began to paint him as something else before the election was even over....shucks, they kept the election from being over till the beginning of the following year.....you're no conservative......you strike me more as one of those urban liberals who look on folks like DNC and Taich and blackascoal as unwitting tools to accomplish your agenda....

I bet you used to wonder why people would eat at the Machine Shed when they could have gone to Jumer's Castle.......why people would drink Budweiser when they could have Oberon.....you've become disassociated from the common man....simply because you find yourself more comfortable with mainstream media than with Fox News you think of yourself as "average"....

the bad news for you is this.....Fox News has the nation's largest audience share....that's because they are the average.....and if your reaction is "that is a bad thing for the country"?....that means you're more liberal than I am......
 
Mott the Hoople said:
and again, have you ever lived next to an oil refinery? Cause this is another topic your popping off at the mouth about that you don't really know jack shit about.
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so what does that do to the argument that it's the oil companies fault that we don't have refineries?......your solution is simply "not in ANYBODY'S back yard"....the article about that 1000 permits was about a town in South Dakota that WANTS a refinery to be built.....now, which one of us is popping off his mouth about something he knows jack shit about......

Voters in Elk Point, South Dakota, have approved the construction of the nation's first new gasoline refinery in 32 years.
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Approval for the plant is not yet absolute, however, as legal action continues to bar construction from beginning. According to Ed Cable, the leader of one of the groups opposing construction (my note: Ed Cable was the leader of Save Union County, see below), "We have strategies in place to slow or delay all the permit processes." The first such is a legal challenge to the county's zoning approval, filed in state court.

Hyperion must also win the approval of state and federal regulators, a process that requires over 1,000 separate permit applications and is expected to take several years.
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http://www.dailytech.com/SD+Voters+...New+Gas+Refinery+in+32+Years/article11984.htm

more "not in anybody's back yard"
Circuit Judge Steven Jensen said Save Union County cannot stay in the fray because it owns no land that would be affected by the proposed $10 billion Hyperion Resources refinery.
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the group that has been most involved in the opposition to the plant wasn't in the front yard......
http://www.downstreamtoday.com/news/article.aspx?a_id=12075
 
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