Brits baying for blood

World War I had a profound impact on British society, including its class structure.

Most of the aristocracy and nobility served in the military, and many were killed or injured during the war. This reduced the immediate influence of the best-educated, as their numbers and power were diminished.

The high casualty rates necessitated a massive mobilization of the workforce, stripping most experienced and highly-skilled men from the working and middle classes. Women entered the workforce in unprecedented numbers, taking up jobs they had no experience or training for.

Post-war Britain saw significant reforms, including the expansion of the franchise with the Representation of the People Act 1918, which gave the vote to some women.

The higher taxation implemented during World War I (WWI) had significant effects on the availability of capital in several ways.

The standard rate of income tax in the UK increased dramatically from 6% in 1914 to 30% by 1918, which directly impacted disposable income and savings. This escalation meant that more income was subject to taxation, reducing the amount of capital individuals and businesses had at their disposal for investment.

The number of people paying income tax in the UK rose from 1.13 million in 1914 to 3 million by 1920, indicating a significant broadening of the tax base. This increase in taxation not only affected the upper echelons of society but also squeezed middle and lower-income groups, potentially reducing the pool of capital for investment as more income was diverted to government coffers.

High tax rates deter investment by reducing the after-tax return on investments. During WWI, the increased taxation led to less capital being available for business expansion or new ventures, as individuals and companies became less inclined to invest when a significant portion of potential gains would be taxed. This effect is akin to modern capital gains taxes, where higher rates deter the sale of assets due to the tax implications on profits.

To finance the war, governments also increased borrowing, which crowded out private sector investment by increasing demand for capital, thereby raising capital costs.

The high taxation during and immediately after the war left a legacy of a more interventionist fiscal policy that hobbles capital availability to this day.
 
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I think Pitcairn Island might work. It is British territory after all...

That didn't work out so well for the previous exiles.

After the mutiny on HMS Bounty in 1789, led by Fletcher Christian, nine mutineers, along with 18 Tahitians (6 men and 12 women), settled on Pitcairn Island in January 1790. Here's what happened to those mutineers:

  • Fletcher Christian: There are conflicting accounts of his death. Some sources indicate he was killed during a conflict with the Tahitians, possibly in September 1793, while others suggest he might have died by suicide or from natural causes. His exact fate remains somewhat of a mystery, but he was certainly deceased by the time the island was rediscovered in 1808.
  • John Adams (who went by the alias Alexander Smith during his time on the Bounty): He was the sole surviving mutineer by 1808 when the American sealing ship Topaz visited the island. Adams became the leader of the community, fostering peace through Christian values, teaching from the Bible, and essentially becoming the patriarch of the settlement. He lived until 1829, dying at the age of 62.
  • Edward Young: He died in 1800 from an asthma attack. Before his death, he, along with Adams, killed Matthew Quintal after he threatened them and their families.
  • Matthew Quintal: He was killed by Adams and Young in 1799 after he became violent and threatened them.
  • William McCoy: He committed suicide in 1798 by jumping off a cliff while intoxicated.
  • James Morrison, William Brown, John Mills, and Isaac Martin: These mutineers were killed during various conflicts in the early years on Pitcairn, primarily due to tensions and disputes among the settlers, including conflicts over the Tahitian women. The exact details of their deaths are less well-documented, but it's clear that internal strife and violence led to their demise.
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That didn't work out so well for the previous exiles.

After the mutiny on HMS Bounty in 1789, led by Fletcher Christian, nine mutineers, along with 18 Tahitians (6 men and 12 women), settled on Pitcairn Island in January 1790. Here's what happened to those mutineers:

  • Fletcher Christian: There are conflicting accounts of his death. Some sources indicate he was killed during a conflict with the Tahitians, possibly in September 1793, while others suggest he might have died by suicide or from natural causes. His exact fate remains somewhat of a mystery, but he was certainly deceased by the time the island was rediscovered in 1808.
  • John Adams (who went by the alias Alexander Smith during his time on the Bounty): He was the sole surviving mutineer by 1808 when the American sealing ship Topaz visited the island. Adams became the leader of the community, fostering peace through Christian values, teaching from the Bible, and essentially becoming the patriarch of the settlement. He lived until 1829, dying at the age of 62.
  • Edward Young: He died in 1800 from an asthma attack. Before his death, he, along with Adams, killed Matthew Quintal after he threatened them and their families.
  • Matthew Quintal: He was killed by Adams and Young in 1799 after he became violent and threatened them.
  • William McCoy: He committed suicide in 1798 by jumping off a cliff while intoxicated.
  • James Morrison, William Brown, John Mills, and Isaac Martin: These mutineers were killed during various conflicts in the early years on Pitcairn, primarily due to tensions and disputes among the settlers, including conflicts over the Tahitian women. The exact details of their deaths are less well-documented, but it's clear that internal strife and violence led to their demise.
@Grok
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She is my heroine, I just love her to bits.

Starmer is applying Labour smear tactics from 20 years ago and thinks they will work today. He is a man of the past with no answers for today’s problems, let alone tomorrow’s.

That such a huge scandal could occur should prompt soul-searching not ranting that those of us who care about it are “the far-right”.

 


I do wish you wouldn't be silly.

Pitcairn Island, due to its small size and limited resources, has a very constrained capacity for supporting a population. As of the most recent data available:

  • The current resident population of Pitcairn Island was reported to be around 47 people in April 2021. Historically, the island's population has peaked at 233 in 1937. Practical considerations like water supply, healthcare, and regular supply shipments are significant limiting factors. The island has no airport or significant harbor, making it highly dependent on infrequent ship visits for goods and medical emergencies.


@Grok
 
I do wish you wouldn't be silly.

Pitcairn Island, due to its small size and limited resources, has a very constrained capacity for supporting a population. As of the most recent data available:

  • The current resident population of Pitcairn Island was reported to be around 47 people in April 2021. Historically, the island's population has peaked at 233 in 1937. Practical considerations like water supply, healthcare, and regular supply shipments are significant limiting factors. The island has no airport or significant harbor, making it highly dependent on infrequent ship visits for goods and medical emergencies.


@Grok
Pick something else equally remote then

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Either would have suited but Kemi wins by a short head, to my mind anyway. They are both in a totally different league to the clowns in now.


A toe-rag would've been preferable to Starmer the Harmer.

I (and Peter Hitchens, @ClarkeMicah, bless 'im) tried to warn people that if Labour once got in, they'd be damned difficult to dislodge.

We weren't persuasive enough.

The turnout was abysmal.
 
I prefer to pursue the art of the possible. If you wish to wallow in puerile fantasies, on your own head be it.
They did it to Napolean. They did it to tens of thousands of prisoners up through the 19th century. I don't see the problem with them putting one asshole off on some remote, and occupied, island that is British territory.
 
They did it to Napolean. They did it to tens of thousands of prisoners up through the 19th century. I don't see the problem with them putting one asshole off on some remote, and occupied, island that is British territory.


OK, off you jog, then. Come back when you're sober.
 
Jess Phillips, whose job it is to protect women & girls, didn’t even try to speak to a single victim.

~Elon Musk



'Jess Phillips confirmed that she has yet to speak to a single victim about this scandal.'Charlie Peters outlines the anger demonstrated over Jess Phillips' decision to turn down an independent investigation into grooming gangs in Oldham despite never meeting with survivors.


 
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