I always heard that a PhD is "Pretty heavy Drugs."
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I can't imagine losing a child. My heart is with you. I am sure you are proud of all of them, and just look what you gave the world.My eldest runs a dog training business and travels the world, never went to college and still thanks me for the tools from her HS graduation. My youngest is going to graduate from College soon... the boy is gone.., the middle daughter is an artist in a city with a crapton of crime...
I am proud of each and every one of them... and I miss the boy. I will probably go on a long stretch of sad songs tonight in the "what song are you listening to" thread.
Do you really believe surgeons are graded on the physical skill involved in the type of surgery they are conducting? They have to be good at many things, like what type of surgery the patient might need, the approach or technique, if the surgery will help, and the physical skill at conducting the surgery itself.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Well, this is really flawed thinking on the part of the students.
How would a student know what effort is required to master a subject they know little or nothing about? That is why they are students. It's as absurd a proposition as having the student decide what should be taught.
What happens is that teachers, today, often have a lack of mastery of the material themselves. They may be able to follow the textbook or lesson plan but really lack any deeper knowledge of the subject than that. Thus, from the student perspective the teacher really isn't much better prepared than they are and the idea of their having equal footing to the teacher creeps in.
When such students get out in the "real" world, they find that the people they work for are actual masters at what they do--that's why they succeed in their business--and expect the now employee student to master the work process like they have. When the ex-student puts in half-assed effort and claims it's good enough or something and gets fired for it, they're shocked. It's cognitive dissidence. They thought growing up and in school that a decent effort, even if getting poor results, was sufficient for a full reward only to find that in the real world it is results that matter and that the effort required is a matter of mastery.
That is, say a skilled carpenter makes it look easy to build something. A young apprentice can watch that but cannot duplicate the results without far more time and effort put into getting them.
Results are what matters. Getting them easily is the result of mastery of the subject. Flailing around expending lots of energy and getting shit results should not be rewarded.
Jake Starkey
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Not every teacher or instructor is good at the skill.
That is a fact. I had them at uni, so did you. I a couple of TA's that were fantastic, and certain tenured profs who were not.
It's not effort alone that should get the grade but the mastery of the as well.
That is a fact. I had them at uni, so did you. I a couple of TA's that were fantastic, and certain tenured profs who were not.
It's not effort alone that should get the grade but the mastery of the as well.
Yakuda
Verified User
I cant believe I'm actually agreeing with the unicorn lawyer
It has always been that way, do your job, keep a clean nose, and it will turn out good, nothing new
christiefan915
Catalyst
You actually did his homework?
christiefan915
Catalyst
I hope he explains this: "Me and the wife had to write papers to turn in for missed assignments during the entire year."
Jake Starkey
Verified User
My brother who is a professor found out that one of his students, whose parents are my brother's friends, had been writing papers for him.
He flunked the students, and then he had a talk with the dad's employer.
He flunked the students, and then he had a talk with the dad's employer.
Me and the wife. Wrote papers, book reports, whatever it took to get him through graduation.
What don’t you understand? We did it.