Bye bye amnesty. We hardly knew ya

Teflon Don said:
BTW, how do you think they should determine if someone is here illegally or not?

Now here is how I would handle illegal immigration

1) If you can't prove legal status you can't enter our educational system
2) If you can't prove legal status you can't apply for ANY welfare benefits, food stamps, housing etc.
3) If you can't prove your legal status you can't be hired by an employer. Any employer and I mean ANY employer found to hire an illegal alien will be fined $100,000 per illegal alien per instance.

That will fix the problem tomorrow. There will be a mass migration out of this country and they will self deport.

Just remove the magnet and they will leave. No need to stop anyone, no need to hunt anyone down. Problem solved.
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Nobody wants them to leave... that's the point.
 
Taft2016 said:
To date, Elian Gonzalez remains the only hispanic liberals endorse deporting.

What's that tell you?
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And CONSERVATIVES wanted to keep young Elian away from his FATHER, who only wanted his son to come home.

What's that tell you?

That Conservatives are all for destroying families if they can use it for political leverage.
 
Jarod said:
ITs semantics, being here without legal permission is illegal in the same way my new kitchen is illegal if I built it without permits.
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Do you face deportation for building it without a permit; because otherwise you just constructed the first parts of your usual strawman.?
 
Jarod said:
ITs semantics, being here without legal permission is illegal in the same way my new kitchen is illegal if I built it without permits.
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http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of - (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
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They can't put you in prison for your kitchen.
 
cawacko said:
So it would do nothing good for them politically is what you are saying. Surprising then they don't want to pass it?
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Surprising? Not at all. For 5 years, they pander to the extreme Right Wing by refusing to address anything that the POTUS wants to pass....even when he's handing them their own pet issues on a silver platter.

Again...they choose to pander to their base, out of fear of the Tea Party minority.

Bad, bad move.
 
Althea said:
Surprising? Not at all. For 5 years, they pander to the extreme Right Wing by refusing to address anything that the POTUS wants to pass....even when he's handing them their own pet issues on a silver platter.

Again...they choose to pander to their base, out of fear of the Tea Party minority.

Bad, bad move.
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Well, let's see. The Tea Party helped the GOP take back over the House of Representatives and they are poised to take back the Senate. Now how exactly is this a bad move?

Again, your concern for the GOP is heartwarming and magnanimous
 
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