California - not Alabama, Texas, or Tennessee - has always been a global leader in innovation

NiftyNiblick said:
I like California, especially San Francisco and wine country.
We visited vineyards, and without thinking about the pesticides, I ate lots of the delicious grapes.
I survived though.

My daughter, in contrast, loves San Diego.
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We like Monterey Peninsula.
Hate LA.
 
Yakuda said:
So? It's a shit hole!
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NiftyNiblick said:
I like California, especially San Francisco and wine country.
We visited vineyards, and without thinking about the pesticides, I ate lots of the delicious grapes.
I survived though.

My daughter, in contrast, loves San Diego.
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San Diego is nice.

I'm not really a big city person, I like the north coast and the central coast.
I thought about living in Tahoe, but decided the massive amounts of snow in winter wasn't worth it.
 
Noking said:
Sounds to me like the one who's confused.
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There's no sign of confusion on my part, I have been direct, clear, and have made my points concisely (and sarcastically).

Yeah, the one who had to ask "who" I was talking about because of a generic pronoun is the only one confused around here.

I'd ask about whether it was every day or just today again, but I believe all indicators show it is daily.
 
Damocles said:
There's no sign of confusion on my part, I have been direct, clear, and have made my points concisely (and sarcastically).

Yeah, the one who had to ask "who" I was talking about because of a generic pronoun is the only one confused around here.

I'd ask about whether it was every day or just today again, but I believe all indicators show it is daily.
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If it make you feel better then believe what you want.
 
Yakuda said:
It's like a beautiful woman who just also happens to be a brain idiot, or insane or a raging bitch, the beauty only takes you so far.
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Weather and natural beauty are always among the top reasons people think about when considering where they would like to live.

People vote with their money. That's exactly why San Diego and Santa Barbara are more expensive than Dallas and Tulsa.
 
Cypress said:
Weather and natural beauty are always among the top reasons people think about when considering where they would like to live.

People vote with their money. That's exactly why San Diego and Santa Barbara are more expensive than Dallas and Tulsa.
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People usually say ‘vote with their feet.’ ‘Vote with their money’ sounds like economics for people who eat paste. And speaking of paste, let’s paste in California’s disappearing feet as people keep moving out.
 
California has ALWAYS been a leader in innovation? Nope. It's a relative newcomer to that game, and it's going away there too. What you'd call "Silicon Valley" was in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts from the 1920's to 1970's. MIT was where the origins of the Internet can be traced to with a project for the military called Whirlwind. That was also the beginning of the digital computer revolution. RCA, Bell Labs, and Western Electric were the powerhouses in all things electrical and electronic back then.

Aviation outside of Lockheed wasn't particularly innovating there either. Outside of GALCIT / JPL at Cal Tech the space race was taking place elsewhere too.

Oak Ridge Tennessee was home to one of the leading innovators in things nuclear and still is. Redstone Arsenal in Alabama was a leader in rocketry. The Mercury 7 were sent into space on Redstone missiles.

Detroit and Michigan were the leaders in automotive technology. Steel was Pennsylvania.

The silicon in Silicon Valley is gone entirely. Chip making isn't happening in California today. It moved to Texas, Arizona, S. Carolina, and elsewhere due to California's onerous environmental laws in particular.

California is seeing a mass exodus of their tech companies. It's happening, but like other industries, it won't occur overnight. It will be several decades, at a minimum, before California is denuded of much of its productivity, but it is happening.

Hell, these days you can't even build a house in California. Of the over 22,000 that burned to the ground in LA during those wildfires, only about 4,000 permits have been issued, 34 homes actually finished, and 10 final occupancy certificates issued. If you live in an area where the California Coastal Commission holds power, your ancestors several generations from now are likely to still be waiting for permits.

California is totally and royally fucked today.
 
Cypress said:
San Diego is nice.

I'm not really a big city person, I like the north coast and the central coast.
I thought about living in Tahoe, but decided the massive amounts of snow in winter wasn't worth it.
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In contrast, I AM a big city person.

People who prioritize comfort and convenience over most anything else like city life.
Everything one wants is within arm's reach.
There's ample public transportation, which is virtually non-existent outside the cities.
There's all kinds of entertainment.
Most of all,
municple services do things that rural people have to do for themselves.

People who like peace, quiet, and tranquility more than the constant stimulation of city life
would understandably prefer life outside of town.

Owl made me aware that some people feel as though they're in a fishbowl when living in the city.
My observation is that city people pay far less attention to their neighbors than anyone else--
we rarely even make eye contact--
so the fishbowl feeling is just that--a feeling more than what's really happening.
 
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