California - not Alabama, Texas, or Tennessee - has always been a global leader in innovation

Cypress said:
San Diego is nice.

I'm not really a big city person, I like the north coast and the central coast.
I thought about living in Tahoe, but decided the massive amounts of snow in winter wasn't worth it.
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San Dog was nice. Really liked it up through about the 2000's. It's seriously declined since then. The Gaslight downtown has gone to seed. There's a homeless and crime problem now. The military has largely pulled out of that area taking hundreds of millions in spending with it. California's onerous environmental and construction laws have made it nearly impossible to update and innovate in city planning and development.

When you tack on the cost of living there, it's just not worth visiting anymore.
 
zymurgy said:
People usually say ‘vote with their feet.’ ‘Vote with their money’ sounds like economics for people who eat paste. And speaking of paste, let’s paste in California’s disappearing feet as people keep moving out.
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I've been hearing for 40 years that California is on the verge of collapse, but it somehow never seems to happen.
 
Cypress said:
I've been hearing for 40 years that California is on the verge of collapse, but it somehow never seems to happen.
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Did I say collapse? nope. you are just a dope

people are choosing to migrate out - not in - even with all that beauty you were bragging on
 
NiftyNiblick said:
In contrast, I AM a big city person.

People who prioritize comfort and convenience over most anything else like city life.
Everything one wants is within arm's reach.
There's ample public transportation, which is virtually non-existent outside the cities.
There's all kinds of entertainment.
Most of all,
municple services do things that rural people have to do for themselves.

People who like peace, quiet, and tranquility more than the constant stimulation of city life
would understandably prefer life outside of town.

Owl made me aware that some people feel as though they're in a fishbowl when living in the city.
My observation is that city people pay far less attention to their neighbors than anyone else--
we rarely even make eye contact--
so the fishbowl feeling is just that--a feeling more than what's really happening.
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I lived in San Francisco, Houston, New Orleans, Washington DC and I never felt they were fish bowls. I just didn't like the traffic! (n)

I may not prefer big cities, but I don't want to be out in the boondocks either. I tend to like college towns or tourist meccas: for example, Boulder, Chapel Hill, Eugene, Monterey, Corvallis, Flagstaff, Ashville.
 
zymurgy said:
Did I say collapse? nope. you are just a dope

people are choosing to migrate out - not in - even with all that beauty you were bragging on
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We should be down to zero people by now, because right-wingers have been telling me for 40 years "people are abandoning California!"
 
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