California should boycott its own laws

[Sammy Jankis]

And please, you think I don't know what Cato is? I was a supporter until they proved, beyond doubt, that they were just a lapdog for the neocons by issuing arguments in support of the Iraq invasion.

Wow, you know what cato is? You get a cookie. A big dick shaped cookie.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Where? You are wrong on what lawful contact would allow, per the sponsor of the bill and Arizona law enfrocement.

???....I don't see where I was wrong about anything....

 

[Canceled2]

He did not present a reasoned position. He did not address any of the arguments concerning why it violates the constitution. He just stated his position, that it doesn't. The only response to that is, he's wrong.

hahahahah! You big ol' dorkpuss...of course he presented his "legal opinions" as to why the law is NOT unconstitutional...and of course this was the point of my posting it! His positions were based in law and you did NOT deal with his points...you DID do the typical stringy dorkpuss dance of summarily dismissing it without adressing his legal and expert points of law ...but then what else is new

 

[Timshel]

???....I don't see where I was wrong about anything....

You said...

false statement.....Arizona police would not ask for identification of a person if they assisted him with a flat tire......

I responded...

Mann of AZPOST agreed with Pearce, saying police officers would have the ability to use the new immigration law during any type of contact with any person, regardless of this new language.

“Police officers do this every day. It’s called a ‘Terry Stop,’ after the Terry v. Ohio case,” Mann said. “Let’s say there are some guys playing basketball in a park. The officer walks up and says, ‘Hey guys. How’s it going?’ That’s lawful contact. It’s a standard voluntary stop.”

Now, are you telling me that playing basketball gives cops some power that having a flat tire would not?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You said...



I responded...



Now, are you telling me that playing basketball gives cops some power that having a flat tire would not?

no, I'm telling you if you're pretending cops will walk up to people playing basketball and say "Hey, how's it going, show me some ID".....all you've shown me is I'm not wrong and you're an idiot....

 

[Timshel]

hahahahah! You big ol' dorkpuss...of course he presented his "legal opinions" as to why the law is NOT unconstitutional...and of course this was the point of my posting it! His positions were based in law and you did NOT deal with his points...you DID do the typical stringy dorkpuss dance of summarily dismissing it without adressing his legal and expert points of law ...but then what else is new

He made no arguments and gave no "reasoned position." He just made an assertion.

He listed what the Arizona law would do and said, "I don't see anything unconstitutional." The only response to that is, "I do" or "you're wrong."

The arguments on it's constitutionality have been presented. If he had made some comment on the arguments for it being unconstitutional there would might be a point in refuting them. But he just made an assertion.

 

[Canceled2]

He made no arguments and gave no "reasoned position." He just made an assertion.

He listed what the Arizona law would do and said, "I don't see anything unconstitutional." The only response to that is, "I do" or "you're wrong."

The arguments on it's constitutionality have been presented. If he had made some comment on the arguments for it being unconstitutional there would might be a point in refuting them. But he just made an assertion.

He stated what the law does and said that it is not unconstitutional. He used the DOJ memo to illuminate the Justice Dept. own internal position which seems to contradict the public face the Holder Justice department is now trying to put on it and he further deals with any possible 4th amendment issues...

Here’s your response "Cato bad- guy bad" done. Yeah stringy...that's why he has a job working with constitutional law and you don't.

Cato is a well respected and valuable "libertarian minded" organization...unlike you their brains don't take a daily toke on life and declare themselves” the be-all end-all”; they actually still function in a cognizant, logical and intelligent manner. They are true libertarian in purpose and in spirit; you’re just a confused want-a-be.

 

[Damocles]

This strikes me as a "Your papers please" sort of thing.

Every legal resident who is not a citizen is required to carry these already in Federal law. My friends form Russia flipped when they heard it was "racist" to require people to follow the law.