Cameras in public school classrooms?

leaningright said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...re-cameras-public-school-classrooms-rcna14789

I see where there is a bill up for discussion in Iowa that would mandate cameras in classrooms in public schools. Me being a public school teacher, I have my own thoughts. What are your thoughts on this?
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On the surface, I don't like it - at all. Having a five year old who is starting her school career I'm definitely aware of the importance of parental involvement. But do I need to be able to listen to her and her teachers in every class to be involved? I don't think so.

And my big issue issue is the understanding of why this is being done. This is about CRT. While I don't believe certain things need to be taught in class I also don't think having a bunch of parents listening to every word a teacher says hoping to be able to say "you can't say that!" is conducive to a positive learning environment. There's always a level of nuance, there needs to be oversight of teachers of course but we don't need to listen to their every word.

That's just off the cuff. Maybe with more info I could be convinced otherwise but right now I'm not seeing it.

Would love to hear your thoughts.
 
from a safety perspective I can see it. but live streaming it seems quite expensive and of little benefit.

schools are supposed to be monitoring whether whats in the syllabus is whats getting taught in the class rooms. if parents find thats not the case then they should be taking it up with the principal.
 
leaningright said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...re-cameras-public-school-classrooms-rcna14789

I see where there is a bill up for discussion in Iowa that would mandate cameras in classrooms in public schools. Me being a public school teacher, I have my own thoughts. What are your thoughts on this?
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You kidding, from junior high up there are already as many cameras in classrooms as there are pupils sitting in the classroom

Is it any wonder teacher are bowing out in records and replacements are hard to come by
 
It's more MAGA nonsense

If you don't trust public schools to educate your kids, then either home school them or send them to a private school.
 
AProudLefty said:
You can thank the GOP for that.
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I think the propensity of the left to claim that its not being taught anywhere when clearly it is, has a lot more to do with it.

Honesty is the best policy.

If you demonstrate that you are not honest, you bring it upon yourself.
 
Celticguy said:
I think the propensity of the left to claim that its not being taught anywhere when clearly it is, has a lot more to do with it.

Honesty is the best policy.

If you demonstrate that you are not honest, you bring it upon yourself.
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I am honest enough to wait for any kind of evidence. So far there is none.
 
cawacko said:
On the surface, I don't like it - at all. Having a five year old who is starting her school career I'm definitely aware of the importance of parental involvement. But do I need to be able to listen to her and her teachers in every class to be involved? I don't think so.

And my big issue issue is the understanding of why this is being done. This is about CRT. While I don't believe certain things need to be taught in class I also don't think having a bunch of parents listening to every word a teacher says hoping to be able to say "you can't say that!" is conducive to a positive learning environment. There's always a level of nuance, there needs to be oversight of teachers of course but we don't need to listen to their every word.

That's just off the cuff. Maybe with more info I could be convinced otherwise but right now I'm not seeing it.

Would love to hear your thoughts.
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It is only a political move to appeal those on the right who believe that the schools are indoctrinating their kids with left wing ideology, same theme is echoes nearly 24/7 on the right wing infotainment channels
 
Here are my thoughts. I’ll try to keep it short.

A few years ago in Oklahoma students were given 7 End of Instruction tests starting their 9th grade year. They were Algebra I, English and Writing I and III, Algebra II, Geometry, Science and Social Studies. The students had to pass 4 of them by their 12th grade year to receive a diploma…and two of the 4 they HAD to pass were Algebra I and English I, and then any two of the others. This went on from 2012 to 2017. At our school the English teacher and I had a 100% pass rating, but I had one freshman class that was disrespectful, rowdy and did not take Algebra I as seriously as they needed to. By the middle of October I video taped that particular class every day so if they failed the class or the EOI Algebra I test I could show the administrators mom and dad 1) that I was doing my job and 2) why their little turd…er a… child failed. One parent teacher conference later (in November) with a couple parents viewing the video with me for about 10 minutes I had zero problems with this bunch of kids and they all passed the EOI at the end of that year.

So I don’t mind people viewing my class in person (I encourage parent shadowing) or by looking at it on a video. There has since been a camera installed in my room for safety reasons and my class is digitally recorded every day. To me it is no big deal.

BUT, as some of you have rightly pointed out, this type of deal is being proposed to try to catch a teacher in a GOTCHA moment or something. It is politically motivated which is wrong. And I am adamantly against any Internet livestream of classes. I don’t want potential perverts watching kids. I would absolutely encourage my congressman to vote against any and all such legislation.
 
leaningright said:
Here are my thoughts. I’ll try to keep it short.

A few years ago in Oklahoma students were given 7 End of Instruction tests starting their 9th grade year. They were Algebra I, English and Writing I and III, Algebra II, Geometry, Science and Social Studies. The students had to pass 4 of them by their 12th grade year to receive a diploma…and two of the 4 they HAD to pass were Algebra I and English I, and then any two of the others. This went on from 2012 to 2017. At our school the English teacher and I had a 100% pass rating, but I had one freshman class that was disrespectful, rowdy and did not take Algebra I as seriously as they needed to. By the middle of October I video taped that particular class every day so if they failed the class or the EOI Algebra I test I could show the administrators mom and dad 1) that I was doing my job and 2) why their little turd…er a… child failed. One parent teacher conference later (in November) with a couple parents viewing the video with me for about 10 minutes I had zero problems with this bunch of kids and they all passed the EOI at the end of that year.

So I don’t mind people viewing my class in person (I encourage parent shadowing) or by looking at it on a video. There has since been a camera installed in my room for safety reasons and my class is digitally recorded every day. To me it is no big deal.

BUT, as some of you have rightly pointed out, this type of deal is being proposed to try to catch a teacher in a GOTCHA moment or something. It is politically motivated which is wrong. And I am adamantly against any Internet livestream of classes. I don’t want potential perverts watching kids. I would absolutely encourage my congressman to vote against any and all such legislation.
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What is the purpose of having a camera in the classroom?
 
BidenPresident said:
What is the purpose of having a camera in the classroom?
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I’m assuming you’re referring to my statement that there is now a camera in my room. They are in several classrooms nowadays for the same reason there are cameras on the streets in a lot of cities. In case there is an incident they can check the video.
 
leaningright said:
I see where there is a bill up for discussion in Iowa that would mandate cameras in classrooms in public schools. Me being a public school teacher, I have my own thoughts. What are your thoughts on this?
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It would give bungling Biden something he'd enjoy watching.



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leaningright said:
Here are my thoughts. I’ll try to keep it short.

A few years ago in Oklahoma students were given 7 End of Instruction tests starting their 9th grade year. They were Algebra I, English and Writing I and III, Algebra II, Geometry, Science and Social Studies. The students had to pass 4 of them by their 12th grade year to receive a diploma…and two of the 4 they HAD to pass were Algebra I and English I, and then any two of the others. This went on from 2012 to 2017. At our school the English teacher and I had a 100% pass rating, but I had one freshman class that was disrespectful, rowdy and did not take Algebra I as seriously as they needed to. By the middle of October I video taped that particular class every day so if they failed the class or the EOI Algebra I test I could show the administrators mom and dad 1) that I was doing my job and 2) why their little turd…er a… child failed. One parent teacher conference later (in November) with a couple parents viewing the video with me for about 10 minutes I had zero problems with this bunch of kids and they all passed the EOI at the end of that year.

So I don’t mind people viewing my class in person (I encourage parent shadowing) or by looking at it on a video. There has since been a camera installed in my room for safety reasons and my class is digitally recorded every day. To me it is no big deal.

BUT, as some of you have rightly pointed out, this type of deal is being proposed to try to catch a teacher in a GOTCHA moment or something. It is politically motivated which is wrong. And I am adamantly against any Internet livestream of classes. I don’t want potential perverts watching kids. I would absolutely encourage my congressman to vote against any and all such legislation.
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Thanks for sharing. You bring up some good points about why there could be cameras in the classroom including recording lessons and teacher training. And while I don't believe it to be a regular occurrence its not unheard of to have students either attack each other or the teacher in the classroom, so I'm sure the school is thinking of CYA by having cameras there to record it.
 
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