Can pinheads explain the contradiction? ...Probably not!

It just goes straight over your head.

We are free to do what we want unless the state limits our liberty in some way. This would be a burden on their liberty. There is no legitimate debate on that point. Because it involves a fundamental right it would have to pass strict scrutiny in order for it survive judicial review. There may be some debate on that, though you have not offered any.

No. Its over your head. You're confusing yourself with bullshit when islam is a security threat to all non muslims, as stated in their own teachings. This is a security issue.

So open your eyes and quit being a typical anti-american elitist jackoff face.
 
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You both are fucking morons. There IS no fucking doubt that stopping them from building would impinge upon their first amendment rights. You may argue that the limit is constitutionally valid or justified and I did not make any certain statement about how the court would rule on THAT matter. That does not alter the fact that it impinges upon their rights.

The state cannot do whatever it wants according to the courts. With regards to eminent domain, the power is limited to public use and there is no reason why the court would say it can use it to violate the fundamental rights of citizens without the scrutiny that any other state action would receive.
 
You both are fucking morons. There IS no fucking doubt that stopping them from building would impinge upon their first amendment rights. You may argue that the limit is constitutionally valid or justified and I did not make any certain statement about how the court would rule on THAT matter. That does not alter the fact that it impinges upon their rights.

The state cannot do whatever it wants according to the courts. With regards to eminent domain, the power is limited to public use and there is no reason why the court would say it can use it to violate the fundamental rights of citizens without the scrutiny that any other state action would receive.

Of course there's a doubt. There's plenty of doubt. I don't think free speech or religion covers the right to establish theocratic military bases openly sworn do destroy and subjugate the host population.
 
It's not a military base, retard. Your hallucinations are not relevant to the case and would not be accepted as evidence, moron.

RIght it's better than a military base. They can hide munitions and seek safety there while our security forces would be forbidden from entereing, just like in iraq with those gay ass rules of war. How happy you must be to assist your tribalist desert brothers in their war on the "nations".
 
It's not a military base, retard.

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army.”

~Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan



....Really? It's NOT a military base?
 
"The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army.”

~Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan



....Really? It's NOT a military base?

No, thats call symbolism. Just because someone calls a dome a helmet does not make it so.

Not only are you a liar, you are an idiot.
 
You both are fucking morons. There IS no fucking doubt that stopping them from building would impinge upon their first amendment rights. You may argue that the limit is constitutionally valid or justified and I did not make any certain statement about how the court would rule on THAT matter. That does not alter the fact that it impinges upon their rights.

The state cannot do whatever it wants according to the courts. With regards to eminent domain, the power is limited to public use and there is no reason why the court would say it can use it to violate the fundamental rights of citizens without the scrutiny that any other state action would receive.

Stopping them from building is stopping them from BUILDING, not WORSHIPING!

As I said previously, I doubt if NYC used eminent domain, they would cite their reason as being, to prevent a mosque from being built. If that were their only rationale, I'm sure the court would not uphold it.
 
RIght it's better than a military base. They can hide munitions and seek safety there while our security forces would be forbidden from entereing, just like in iraq with those gay ass rules of war. How happy you must be to assist your tribalist desert brothers in their war on the "nations".
True those were gay rules. Those fucking places of idol worship should have been targeted with MOABs. :good4u:
 
"The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army.”

~Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan



....Really? It's NOT a military base?



You really should take a break from reading rightwing anti-muslim websites.

Erdogan was reading a piece of poetry in 1997 and the phrase you are referring to was an apparent mistranslation into English – because the phrase doesn’t actually appear in the original Turkish-language poem.

Erdogan, however, was imprisoned a decade ago by the Turkish government for violating Turkey’s commitment to secularism.

After returning to politics, Erdogan has moderated, he’s instituted democratic reforms, and he even supported Shrub's request to use Turkey as a base to invade Iraq, although Erdogan was ultimately rebuffed by the Turkish parliament.

Imprisoned for Subversion:

In 1997, Erdogan said in a speech: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army.” He was the leader the Islamic-oriented Welfare Party at the time. In January 1998, Turkey’s highest court closed the Welfare Party and banned its members from politics, saying the party sought to undermine Turkey’s secular basis. Weeks later, Erdogan was indicted on subversion charges, including inciting “an army of jihad” and “using democracy to establish an evil order.” A military court sentenced him to 10 months in jail, which he started serving in March 1999.

He was given a prison sentence after he had read poetry regarded as a violation of Kemalism by judges. It included verses translated as "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers...."[4]

However, the original poem did not include the verses which were deemed to violate the secular regime.[12][13].

Since returning to politics after his imprisonment, Erdogan Erdogan has overseen the moderation and reform of many Turkeish policies, including, in 2001, the abolition of the death penalty (except in times of war and for acts of terrorism), the abolition of torture in Turkish prisons, and allowing the use of the Kurdish language in broadcasting and education, and supported George Dumbya Bush’s request to use Turkey as a staging ground for the war on Iraq, but was ultimately rebuffed by the Turkish parliament.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdoğan#cite_ref-charismatic_3-2

http://middleeast.about.com/od/turkey/p/me080210.htm
 
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Wow Prissy, you sure seem to know a LOT about radical Islam... are they now part of the Democrat party?

No, I just assume on principle that every thing you post is a lie that you read on a rightwing website.

And using the magic of google, I can learn more in three minutes about Prime Minister Erdogon, than the hours of time you wasted reading lies about him on GlennBeck.com.
 
No, I just assume on principle that every thing you post is a lie that you read on a rightwing website.

And using the magic of google, I can learn more in three minutes about Prime Minister Erdogon, than the hours of time you wasted reading lies about him on GlennBeck.com.

It's not a lie that he said that. "The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army” ~Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan

I just found it appropriate in light of Stringly's assertion this mosque wasn't a "military base" ....according to Erdogan, it certainly is.
 
No, I just assume on principle that every thing you post is a lie that you read on a rightwing website.

And using the magic of google, I can learn more in three minutes about Prime Minister Erdogon, than the hours of time you wasted reading lies about him on GlennBeck.com.

Way to never research anything yourself and be a stupid assuming moron.:good4u:
 
It's not a lie that he said that. "The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army” ~Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan

I just found it appropriate in light of Stringly's assertion this mosque wasn't a "military base" ....according to Erdogan, it certainly is.


Wipe the egg off your face. He was reading a poem in 1997, and the english translation was apparently bungled.

He was imprisoned by the turkish government for violating their laws protecting secularism.

Is this your evidence of a horrific islamic plot to invade the U.S. and convert us to Islam?

I'm busting a gut laughing here.


If you ever do get a chance to leave Macon County, Alabama, Turkey is a nice place to visit. I promise you won't get your head chopped off there, nor will you be forced to convert to Islam at the point of a bayonet.

I don't think I've ever seen such frightened mice, as I've seen with the jpp.com anti-muslim bigot cabal. Its embarrassing, bro. Are y'all men? Or mice?
 
Wipe the egg off your face. He was reading a poem in 1997, and the english translation was apparently bungled.

He was imprisoned by the turkish government for violating their laws protecting secularism.

Is this your evidence of a horrific islamic plot to invade the U.S. and convert us to Islam?

I'm busting a gut laughing here.


If you ever do get a chance to leave Macon County, Alabama, Turkey is a nice place to visit. I promise you won't get your head chopped off there, nor will you be forced to convert to Islam at the point of a bayonet.

I don't think I've ever seen such frightened mice, as I've seen with the jpp.com anti-muslim bigot cabal. Its embarrassing, bro. Are y'all men? Or mice?

Sure, you be in denial about islamofascism. Have fun getting your head chopped off, bro. Or convert. You'll get the chance. Hope your ready to abuse your wife and make her cover up.
 
Sure, you be in denial about islamofascism. Have fun getting your head chopped off, bro. Or convert. You'll get the chance. Hope your ready to abuse your wife and make her cover up.

I love it... The Left has become so split from reality and unhinged, they are actually campaigning as pro-Islamic sympathizers, and thinking that is going to pull their bacon out of the fire in November! LMFAOOooooooooo!
 
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