Can they deny the 1st Amendment right for hate speech felons?

[Flash]

Correct. So why is SCOTUS ignoring the Constitution and restricting our rights?

Because those rights are not absolute and reasonable restrictions can be made--threats, libel, slander, obscenity, an officer who conducts a search without a warrant but with the consent of the occupant, pornography, are all examples of actions that can be restricted by the government (federal or state).

Those rights have been greatly expanded over the years. Until 2010 the 2nd did not even apply to states and states could prohibit guns until the court made the 2nd applicable to the states. None of the Bill of Rights applied to the states until 1925 and since that date most of those rights have been made applicable to the states.

 

[AProudLefty]

Because those rights are not absolute and reasonable restrictions can be made--threats, libel, slander, obscenity, an officer who conducts a search without a warrant but with the consent of the occupant, pornography, are all examples of actions that can be restricted by the government (federal or state).

Those rights have been greatly expanded over the years. Until 2010 the 2nd did not even apply to states and states could prohibit guns until the court made the 2nd applicable to the states. None of the Bill of Rights applied to the states until 1925 and since that date most of those rights have been made applicable to the states.

You mentioned CP. There have been multiple ugly videos and they are given a pass. Why?

They all are victims.

Edited to add - see previous posts of mine.

 

[Flash]

You mentioned CP. There have been multiple ugly videos and they are given a pass. Why?

They all are victims.

Edited to add - see previous posts of mine.

They are not given a pass. Laws regarding CP are very tough. A person can be convicted for simply having CP on his computer and get a long sentence.

It is almost impossible to do anything about CP coming from foreign nations.

 

[AProudLefty]

They are not given a pass. Laws regarding CP are very tough. A person can be convicted for simply having CP on his computer and get a long sentence.

It is almost impossible to do anything about CP coming from foreign nations.

I understand. The cognitive dissonance is they are giving a pass to those videos of kids being tortured and beheaded with dull knives.

But anyway I never wanted to talk about CP. Just the Constitutional rights EVERY American enjoy.

 

[Flash]

I understand. The cognitive dissonance is they are giving a pass to those videos of kids being tortured and beheaded with dull knives.

But anyway I never wanted to talk about CP. Just the Constitutional rights EVERY American enjoy.

No cognitive dissonance. Has any governmental entity tried to restrict those videos? It might be constitutional if they did.

But, it doesn't fit any of the guidelines allowing government to restrict our freedoms. Something offensive isn't justification for restricting our rights.

Quit watching that stuff. That is why they make it available.

 

[AProudLefty]

No cognitive dissonance. Has any governmental entity tried to restrict those videos? It might be constitutional if they did.

But, it doesn't fit any of the guidelines allowing government to restrict our freedoms. Something offensive isn't justification for restricting our rights.

Quit watching that stuff. That is why they make it available.

Huh?

 

[Flash]

Huh?

Quit watching videos of cutting off people's heads.

 

[AProudLefty]

Quit watching videos of cutting off people's heads.

Why? The SCOTUS deems that it's my right.

 

[Flash]

Why? The SCOTUS deems that it's my right.

In poor taste...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Why? The SCOTUS deems that it's my right.

Snuff films are generally illegal everywhere...

 

[AProudLefty]

Snuff films are generally illegal everywhere...

Those are generally fake. They cannot confirm they are real. I've seen plenty of them. Watch the movie 8mm.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Those are generally fake. They cannot confirm they are real. I've seen plenty of them. Watch the movie 8mm.

 

[AProudLefty]

Yeppers. I've seen the worst of the worst videos. Are they real? You tell me.

No clue why he brought up CP.

As to the CP videos, why are the worst of the worst videos given a pass?

Remember it's on Flash. Not me.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Shall not be infringed applies to your right to keep and bear arms. If I have a revolver that is an arm I keep and bear. Shall not be infringed does not say any type of arms.

But, more seriously, I am going by state and federal laws that regulate firearms.

Just as the Constitution allows reasonable restrictions on free speech, free press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, protection against search and seizure...the same reasonable restrictions apply to firearms.

there are numerous writings from the founders that make it very clear that congress had no authority over the arms of the people. That is what was recognized and ratified. the Constitution doesn't allow for those reasonable regulations, the courts made excuses to allow such things to happen

 

[Flash]

Snuff films are generally illegal everywhere...

True. There is still a big market in fake snuff films sold as real.

 

[Flash]

there are numerous writings from the founders that make it very clear that congress had no authority over the arms of the people. That is what was recognized and ratified. the Constitution doesn't allow for those reasonable regulations, the courts made excuses to allow such things to happen

Most gun regulations were at the state level which was not affected by the Bill of Rights.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Most gun regulations were at the state level which was not affected by the Bill of Rights.

true......and before the 14th Amendment, that was perfectly fine.......but we the people ratified the 14th Amendment which forces 'shall not be infringed' upon the states.........