Can we stop pretending the the right is a bastion of "Christianity?"

serendipity said:
This is from the country where the Ton Ton Macoute and Papa Doc Duvalier reigned for so long ffs. Yet according to simplistic fools like you Haitians are just all good people despite their extremely violent past of Voodoo, Black lMagic, extreme human rights abuses and gang warfare. Port au Prince resembles Mad Max films in the depths of depravity there.

Haiti has descended into chaos and its Prime Minister has resigned. A gang leader, Jimmy Cherizier, who projects himself as a revolutionary, has become the most powerful person in Haiti. Cherizier is known as 'Barbecue' for burning people alive. Of course I doubt that you know any of that, you just seem too unworldly to get your head around it.
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That's actually a very bigoted post.

So, there are bad Haitians, then? And that means all Haitians are bad?
 
Religion is a tool for despots to use on their own people. It has organized a big chunk of the population and inculcated them to believe what leaders say. They are a basis for an army. The true dictators take over or use religion, like Trump has done.
 
Nordberg said:
Religion is a tool for despots to use on their own people. It has organized a big chunk of the population and inculcated them to believe what leaders say. They are a basis for an army. The true dictators take over or use religion, like Trump has done.
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That can be true especially where there are official state religions, like the Russian Orthodox Church, or the Islamic Republic of Iran.

On the other hand if religion is always the handmaiden of oppression and tyranny, we need an explanation for why the Catholic church was instrumental in bringing down totalitarian communism in Eastern Europe, for why English Protestants were responsible for making the British government outlaw the slave trade, or why American evangelical Christians were instrumental in Reverend Martin Luther King's civil rights movement.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What about Thailand, a country with the pedophile psycho King? You and I have discussed efforts to overthrow the richest piece of shit in South Asia. Any progress in getting rid of that psycho bastard?

When will a Thai patriot, even a British ex-pat, but a cap in his ass?
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Why do you think everyone's a pedophile, Sybil??
 
Nordberg said:
Religion is a tool for despots to use on their own people. It has organized a big chunk of the population and inculcated them to believe what leaders say. They are a basis for an army. The true dictators take over or use religion, like Trump has done.
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Trump is not a dictator, Sybil.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So...

So, correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation.
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Yes but it can be part of causation so you need to make an argument about your point.

It is undeniable that corporations, in any given year, only have so much room for salary and bonuses. You would see an 'allocation' at the business plan level based on Best Industry Metrics, and that is what most corporations will use and adjust.

And if go from the 1960's, where CEO and C-Suite staff were making about 10-15 times the average worker to a point now where they make 351 times, that collective C-Suite salaries put against the total compensation pool, will impact the bulk of the rest of the pool as most companies do not want to be the outlier in showing any singular metric way out of the norm.

So if your question is 'what has changed that families could buy a house in the 60's and have a family on a singular worker salary'?...

.. We cannot deny that a big part of that answer is C-Suite compensation increases ate up a massive part of all staff pay increases over the decades since as we saw C-Suite executives go from being generally less wealthy than the Doctor who lived on the same street, to now those C-Suite executives flying around on private jets and living the life of top celebrities.
 
serendipity said:
This is from the country where the Ton Ton Macoute and Papa Doc Duvalier reigned for so long ffs. Yet according to simplistic fools like you Haitians are just all good people despite their extremely violent past of Voodoo, Black lMagic, extreme human rights abuses and gang warfare. Port au Prince resembles Mad Max films in the depths of depravity there.

Haiti has descended into chaos and its Prime Minister has resigned. A gang leader, Jimmy Cherizier, who projects himself as a revolutionary, has become the most powerful person in Haiti. Cherizier is known as 'Barbecue' for burning people alive. Of course I doubt that you know any of that, you just seem too unworldly to get your head around it.
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no where does he say 'all Haitians are good people'. That is your simplistic fool lie.

The Haitians Trump demonized did very much appear to be good people. All in America, the right way, most working for years in other cities and States and then actively recruited by the Governor and city as the town was heading towards being the next rural city on the Ghost Town tours.

the issues that exist in Haiti do smear those individuals as you are desperately trying to do.

It was a shameful stance by Trump and exposed how unChristian and deeply flawed so many of his followers are.
 
QP! said:
Yes but it can be part of causation so you need to make an argument about your point.


So if your question is 'what has changed that families could buy a house in the 60's and have a family on a singular worker salary'?...
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First and foremost, regulations. In 1960 Code requirements for constructing a house were pretty minimal. Yes, there were industry and professional standards, but these were more like guidelines than enforceable rules. All the regulations, inspections, and additional requirements drive the cost of a home up substantially.

Second is complexity. Modern homes are far more complex. They have massive amounts more electrical devices in them. In the 60's it was common for a house to have a 50 or 60 amp service with maybe 8 or 12 circuits max. Now it's a 200 amp service and you have double that in circuits. Plumbing is the same way.

In addition, a typical 60's house was smaller being somewhere around 1200 sq ft. Today homes typically hit 1800 to 2000 sq ft. The 60's home had, typically 8 ft ceilings and a simple gable roofline. Today 9 ft ceilings are common, and rooflines are more complex.

To answer your second question directly, worker pay has been suppressed by exactly what you complain about--at least in part. If women weren't in the workforce to the degree they are, and single-family households were the norm, then goods and wages would be priced to reflect that. But the norm today is both parents work, the kids are in daycare, and goods and wages are priced to reflect that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
First and foremost, regulations. In 1960 Code requirements for constructing a house were pretty minimal. Yes, there were industry and professional standards, but these were more like guidelines than enforceable rules. All the regulations, inspections, and additional requirements drive the cost of a home up substantially.

Second is complexity. Modern homes are far more complex. They have massive amounts more electrical devices in them. In the 60's it was common for a house to have a 50 or 60 amp service with maybe 8 or 12 circuits max. Now it's a 200 amp service and you have double that in circuits. Plumbing is the same way.

In addition, a typical 60's house was smaller being somewhere around 1200 sq ft. Today homes typically hit 1800 to 2000 sq ft. The 60's home had, typically 8 ft ceilings and a simple gable roofline. Today 9 ft ceilings are common, and rooflines are more complex.

To answer your second question directly, worker pay has been suppressed by exactly what you complain about--at least in part. If women weren't in the workforce to the degree they are, and single-family households were the norm, then goods and wages would be priced to reflect that. But the norm today is both parents work, the kids are in daycare, and goods and wages are priced to reflect that.
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Sure.

And C Suite salaries rising to absurd multiples gobbling up a massively bigger part of company's 'compensation pie' is also a factor.

It has to be. Companies do look at the line item of 'total salaries', as something they want to be a percent of other measures in the Income Statement. Each company would benchmark a range for 'total salaries' they would want to benchmark well against the best companies in their sector. If your C-Suite is making over 300 times what they did in past generations that leaves a much smaller part of the pie for all of those not in the C-Suite.
 
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