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Today Fox, on its website, has a story about who wrote the report.

Does that mean that Fox is reporting FAKE NEWS?

What is different about Fox reporting who wrote the report from CNN reporting that the FBI gave the report to the President Elect?

Why, other than Trump said so, is more fake about what CNN did than what Fox is doing?
 
Jarod said:
Did the NYT report that the Golden Shower was true, or did the NYT report that such a report existed and was presented to the President and the President Elect?
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They reported it as true and I linked to it in this forum. Thingy started a thread and referenced the article and the NYT but didn't link, I found the article and linked it. They reported golden showers as true.

It used to be that you knew the media was lying through omission but when they reported a fact it was true...you could bank on that.

Now you can't bank on it.
 
Guille said:
They reported it as true and I linked to it in this forum. Thingy started a thread and referenced the article and the NYT but didn't link, I found the article and linked it. They reported golden showers as true.

It used to be that you knew the media was lying through omission but when they reported a fact it was true...you could bank on that.

Now you can't bank on it.
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Can you tell me what thread, because I don't think that is true, but if it is I will consider my opinion on the NYT.
 
Jarod said:
Today Fox, on its website, has a story about who wrote the report.

Does that mean that Fox is reporting FAKE NEWS?

What is different about Fox reporting who wrote the report from CNN reporting that the FBI gave the report to the President Elect?

Why, other than Trump said so, is more fake about what CNN did than what Fox is doing?
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It's long since been outed as fake news. Is reporting about fake news the same as reporting fake news to you?
 
GazzaQueen said:
It's long since been outed as fake news. Is reporting about fake news the same as reporting fake news to you?
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No, two different things.

If you report that the FBI gave the President a document that says xy and z, you are not reporting that xy and z are true, you are simply reporting the actions of the FBI. It is an important difference. They are not reporting that the President Elect gave prostitutes a Golden Shower, they are reporting that the FBI gave the President Elect a document that says that. It does not address the veracity of that document at all, only that such a report exists.

If the Palm Beach Post reports that an attorney filed a lawsuit that alleges xy and z, is the Palm Beach Post reporting that xy and z is true?
 
GazzaQueen said:
It's long since been outed as fake news. Is reporting about fake news the same as reporting fake news to you?
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No, two different things.

If you report that the FBI gave the President a document that says xy and z, you are not reporting that xy and z are true, you are simply reporting the actions of the FBI. It is an important difference. They are not reporting that the President Elect gave prostitutes a Golden Shower, they are reporting that the FBI gave the President Elect a document that says that. It does not address the veracity of that document at all, only that such a report exists.

If the Palm Beach Post reports that an attorney filed a lawsuit that alleges xy and z, is the Palm Beach Post reporting that xy and z is true?
 
Jarod said:
The same could be said about the Conservatives.

The news you call fake is simply not fake. The viewer must consider what those facts mean, if anything, but the facts reported are REAL.

I live in Palm Beach county, I can tell you their is a LOT of diversity of political opinions here, much more than their was in Lee County, Alabama where I lived for four years, and that was at a University where their is suppose to be diversity of opinion. If you were a liberal in Lee County Alabama like I was, you were very unusual and odd, especially if you were a white man. Still, I joined super conservative Fraternity and socialized with 99% of people who had VERY strongly differing opinions than me. Plenty of who would have felt violent about some of my views had they come up. Many of my friends marched in a rally in Montgomery (The Capitol) to demand that that a law be passed making it illegal for students to form a group called "The Auburn Gay and Lesbian Society".

Yes, I would say this VERY heavily Liberal County has MUCH more diversity of opinion than the rural towns I have lived in.
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You're confusing "liberal" with diverse. This map here proves that your county is much less diverse than the country as a whole.
 

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Right said:
You're confusing "liberal" with diverse. This map here proves that your county is much less diverse than the country as a whole.
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My neighbor a Trumpovite. The other side a radical christian who tried to run me over once for putting something in his mailbox. Across the street a Jewish Doctor, I don't know his politics. We have a huge Hispanic and Haitian community. WE much bigger white christian group. We have a lot of Jews. Its diverse compared to Alabama.
 
I just read the NYT article from the other day, the very first paragraph says the report is unsubstantiated. NOT FAKE NEWS!
 
Jarod said:
I just read the NYT article from the other day, the very first paragraph says the report is unsubstantiated. NOT FAKE NEWS!
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Then they went on to report it anyway. Sort of like: "We have unsubstantiated news that Hillary Clinton made a sex tape with Rosie O'Donnell. The tape is reported to show Rosie urinating into Hillary's mouth while she gargles the warm liquid then spits it into the camera."
 
Jarod said:
My neighbor a Trumpovite. The other side a radical christian who tried to run me over once for putting something in his mailbox. Across the street a Jewish Doctor, I don't know his politics. We have a huge Hispanic and Haitian community. WE much bigger white christian group. We have a lot of Jews. Its diverse compared to Alabama.
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My map "trumps" your anecdotal evidence.
 
Except the NYT went on to report it anyway. Sort of like: "We have unsubstantiated news that Hillary Clinton made a sex tape with Rosie O'Donnell. The tape is reported to show Rosie urinating into Hillary's mouth while she gargles the warm liquid then spits it into the camera."

Would that have been acceptable to you?
 
Right said:
Except the NYT went on to report it anyway. Sort of like: "We have unsubstantiated news that Hillary Clinton made a sex tape with Rosie O'Donnell. The tape is reported to show Rosie urinating into Hillary's mouth while she gargles the warm liquid then spits it into the camera."

Would that have been acceptable to you?
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The difference is that they were not reporting the existence of the Unsubstantiated report, they were reporting that the FBI briefed Trump and Obama on it. CNN and the NYT both knew about the allegations months before the FBI Briefed the President and at that point chose not to report it. They only chose to report it, only decided it was newsworthy once they found out the Intelligence agencies had briefed the President. (Something Trump denied, then later admitted)

Its mere existence did not make it news worthy, what made it news worthy was that the FBI had briefed the President elect and the President about it.

Now, if they reported that the FBI had briefed the President and the President Elect of a Rosie and Hillary Sex tape and unsubstantiated allegations that the Russians were using it as leverage against the President elect, that would be news worthy, regardless if the tape itself was substantiated or not.

But once again even if they had reported the existence of the unsubstantiated report, without the briefing, it might have been irresponsible to report something not newsworthy, but even then it still would not have been FAKE.
 
Jarod said:
The difference is that they were not reporting the existence of the Unsubstantiated report, they were reporting that the FBI briefed Trump and Obama on it.
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This is from the actual report:
The memos describe sex videos involving prostitutes with Mr. Trump in a 2013 visit to a Moscow hotel. The videos were supposedly prepared as “kompromat,” or compromising material, with the possible goal of blackmailing Mr. Trump in the future.

The memos also suggest that Russian officials proposed various lucrative deals, essentially as disguised bribes in order to win influence over Mr. Trump.

The memos describe several purported meetings during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump representatives and Russian officials to discuss matters of mutual interest, including the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee and Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, John D. Podesta.

If some of the unproven claims in the memos are merely titillating, others would amount to extremely serious, potentially treasonous acts.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html

Sort of like:
The memos describe sex videos involving prostitutes with Mrs. Clinton in a 2013 visit to a Moscow hotel. The videos were supposedly prepared as “kompromat,” or compromising material, with the possible goal of blackmailing Mrs. Clinton in the future.

The memos also suggest that Russian officials proposed various lucrative deals, essentially as disguised bribes in order to win influence over Mrs. Clinton.

The memos describe several purported meetings during the 2016 presidential campaign between Clinton representatives and Russian officials to discuss matters of mutual interest, including the Russian hacking of the Republican National Committee and Mr. Trump's campaign chairman, Kellyanne Conway.

If some of the unproven claims in the memos are merely titillating, others would amount to extremely serious, potentially treasonous acts.
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Would that have been acceptable to you?
 
Jarod said:
The difference is that they were not reporting the existence of the Unsubstantiated report, they were reporting that the FBI briefed Trump and Obama on it. CNN and the NYT both knew about the allegations months before the FBI Briefed the President and at that point chose not to report it. They only chose to report it, only decided it was newsworthy once they found out the Intelligence agencies had briefed the President. (Something Trump denied, then later admitted)

Its mere existence did not make it news worthy, what made it news worthy was that the FBI had briefed the President elect and the President about it.

Now, if they reported that the FBI had briefed the President and the President Elect of a Rosie and Hillary Sex tape and unsubstantiated allegations that the Russians were using it as leverage against the President elect, that would be news worthy, regardless if the tape itself was substantiated or not.

But once again even if they had reported the existence of the unsubstantiated report, without the briefing, it might have been irresponsible to report something not newsworthy, but even then it still would not have been FAKE.
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Yet you ran with it as FACT. And you still keep your avatar, though that has been proven FALSE.

You fail.
 
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