We don't "need" Canada for anything and writing a bunch of bullshit propaganda you found on the internet will not change that.
Canadians urge ban on potash sales to USA
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It has to be mined, refined, and shipped. There are some known reserves in the USA, but it is not enough.
There are no substitutes for potassium in agricultural fertilizer, and Canada is by far the world's largest producer of potash, and has by far the largest known reserves.
Without potassium, large scale commercial farming in the United States grinds to a halt.
Economically recoverable potash reserves in the United States are tiny compared to Canada or Russia.
Just one mine in Michigan has been in the works for about a decade, is years away from production, and will cost well over a billion dollars.....plus needs gobs of water and energy to run.
We need to buy potash.
Feds, state commit $1.26 billion to Michigan Potash, but some remain concerned about mine
Osceola County mine would produce tons of table salt and potassium chloride — potash — a critical mineral used by farmers to fertilize their crops.
www.freep.com
Billion-dollar Michigan Potash Mine Project for 2025 Sparked This Farmer's Interest
Staff Reporter Russ Quinn's favorite article of 2022 was his article detailing a possible potash mine being planned and will hopefully get built in west-central Michigan. The new mine could produce potash fertilizer by 2025, according to Michigan Potash and Salt Company.
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Into the Night
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It doesn't have to be mined, Wally. It requires no refinement.
It is plenty, Wally.
Into the Night
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No, it doesn't, Sybil. Potash is not potassium either.
The United States has plenty of potassium.
Potash is not potassium, Sybil.
There is also plenty of potash in the United States.
Into the Night
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Potash doesn't need mining.Just one mine in Michigan has been in the works for about a decade, is years away from production, and will cost well over a billion dollars.....plus needs gobs of water and energy to run.
We need to buy potash.
Feds, state commit $1.26 billion to Michigan Potash, but some remain concerned about mine
Osceola County mine would produce tons of table salt and potassium chloride — potash — a critical mineral used by farmers to fertilize their crops.www.freep.com
Billion-dollar Michigan Potash Mine Project for 2025 Sparked This Farmer's Interest
Staff Reporter Russ Quinn's favorite article of 2022 was his article detailing a possible potash mine being planned and will hopefully get built in west-central Michigan. The new mine could produce potash fertilizer by 2025, according to Michigan Potash and Salt Company.
It would take over three years to build the mine (they claim 42 months, but we know how these kinds of estimates tend to go) and ten years in they dont have all the permits. Also Michigan has thrown a quarter billion dollars into the pot.....all to produce about double the potash Michigan farmers need:
www.mlive.com
$1.2B northern Michigan mine eligible for tax-exempt funding
A proposed potash facility in Evart was granted state approval to seek a $225 million tax-exempt bond.
www.mlive.com
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You're an idiot.
"Potash is a trade name for potassium bearing minerals used for fertilizer." -- U.S. Bureau of Land Management
Programs: Energy and Minerals: Mining and Minerals: Non-Energy Leasable Materials: Potash | Bureau of Land Management
Potash A langbeinite continuous miner in the Secretary's Potash Area in Southeastern New Mexico. Potash is a trade name for potassium bearing minerals used for fertilizer. The two potash minerals mined in New Mexico are Sylvite (potassium chloride) and Langbeinite (potassium-magnesium sulfate)...
Canada is the biggest produce, and we are the biggest consumer... We used to think that was a lucky match, and then trump came along.
Where do you think it comes from?
That is the one thing it always is. It is salt compounds that contain potassium.
So all you need to do is skip the next 1,000 to 10,000 meals, and we will be fine.
Tbird19482
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I am sure Canada can find a buyer for their potash, the world is a large place and the USA isn't their only customer .
The MI mine would produce more salt than potash....I have no idea where it would go.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
Will you be scared if they can't in time to save their economy?
If Canada were to ban all potash exports to the United States, the economic impacts on Canada could be significant and multifaceted, given the importance of potash as an export commodity.
Here’s a breakdown of the potential effects based on available data and economic reasoning:
1. Loss of Export Revenue
- Scale of Impact: The United States is Canada’s largest market for potash, importing over 80% of its potash needs from Canada, which equates to roughly 7 million tonnes annually. With Canada exporting approximately 20-24 million tonnes of potash globally each year (around 32-38% of global production), the U.S. market likely represents a substantial portion of this—potentially 25-35% of Canada’s total potash exports. At current market prices (e.g., around $200-300 per tonne, though prices fluctuate), this could translate to a revenue loss of $1.4 billion to $2.1 billion USD annually, or roughly 2-3 billion CAD depending on exchange rates.
- Economic Ripple: Potash exports contribute significantly to Canada’s economy, particularly in Saskatchewan, where all Canadian potash is mined. The fertilizer industry as a whole adds over $42 billion annually to Canada’s economy and supports over 100,000 jobs. A ban on U.S. exports could directly reduce this contribution by several billion dollars, hitting provincial and federal revenues through lost taxes and royalties.
2. Supply Chain Disruptions and Production Cuts
- Limited Storage Capacity: Potash production facilities in Canada, particularly in Saskatchewan, have limited on-site storage. A sudden ban on exports to the U.S. could lead to a surplus, forcing producers like Nutrien and Mosaic to scale back production. This was a concern during past supply chain disruptions (e.g., the 2024 West Coast port stoppage, which threatened $9.7 million CAD in daily lost sales).
- Job Losses: Reduced production would likely lead to layoffs in the mining sector. The potash industry employs thousands directly and supports additional jobs in transportation, logistics, and related services. A prolonged ban could see unemployment rise in Saskatchewan, a province heavily reliant on resource extraction.
3. Redirection of Exports
- Alternative Markets: Canada could attempt to redirect potash to other markets like Brazil (a major importer with growing demand), India, or China. However, these markets are already served by Canada and competitors like Russia and Belarus, which together account for about 34% of global production. Flooding these markets could depress global potash prices due to oversupply, reducing profitability.
- Logistical Challenges: Shifting exports requires reorienting supply chains, potentially increasing transportation costs (e.g., shipping via West Coast ports to Asia or Latin America rather than rail to the U.S.). Past disruptions, like rail strikes and port stoppages, have shown how vulnerable Canada’s export infrastructure is, costing the fertilizer industry nearly $1 billion in lost sales over six years.
4. Impact on Trade Relations and Retaliation
- U.S. Response: A ban could escalate trade tensions, prompting U.S. retaliatory tariffs or restrictions on Canadian goods beyond potash (e.g., oil, gas, or steel). The U.S. is Canada’s largest trading partner, with bilateral trade worth hundreds of billions annually. Losing access to this market could have broader economic fallout.
- Global Reputation: Canada’s reputation as a reliable supplier might suffer, potentially pushing buyers to secure long-term contracts with competitors like Russia or Belarus, even if geopolitically less desirable for some.
5. Domestic Economic Pressure
- Saskatchewan’s Economy: Saskatchewan, home to the world’s largest potash reserves (about 1.1 billion tonnes), would bear the brunt. The province markets itself as a “critical minerals powerhouse,” and potash is central to its economic strategy. A ban could stall investment in exploration and expansion, undermining long-term growth.
- Currency and Inflation: A significant drop in export revenue could weaken the Canadian dollar, increasing the cost of imports and potentially fueling inflation. This would compound existing economic challenges, as Canada is already recovering from interest rate shocks and stagnant GDP per capita.
6. Potential Mitigating Factors
- Short-Term Leverage: Some Canadian leaders, like Ontario Premier Doug Ford, have suggested using potash as a trade war weapon to “make America feel the pain.” If the ban were temporary and strategic, it might pressure the U.S. to negotiate, potentially softening broader tariff threats. However, this assumes Canada could absorb the immediate economic hit.
- Global Demand: Growing demand in markets like Brazil and China might offset some losses over time, though not immediately. Canada’s 95% export rate of its potash production (to over 75 countries) suggests flexibility, but redirecting such a large U.S.-bound volume would take years to fully stabilize.
Conclusion
A complete ban on potash exports to the U.S. would likely cost Canada billions in lost revenue, trigger production cuts and job losses, and strain its trade infrastructure, particularly in Saskatchewan. While redirection to other markets is possible, it would come with lower margins and logistical hurdles, potentially depressing global prices and Canada’s market share. The move could also invite U.S. retaliation, amplifying the damage across Canada’s export-driven economy. In the short term, it might serve as a bargaining chip, but the self-inflicted economic wound could take years to heal without a clear alternative strategy.
@Grok
It is remarkably convenient that Saskatchewan is right up the road from the American Midwest.
I'm sure Trump and MAGA morons would rather make Canada our enemy, and start buying potash from Russia. But Trump swore he was going to bring grocery prices down on Day One, not inflate prices.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
With Russia having trouble exporting its potash, the world is desperate for potash. This is the wrong time to piss off the Canadians.
Oh Really?
Russia’s potash exports up 70% y/y in 1H24 as the fertiliser sector flourishes
Russia remains a major exporter of fertilisers which have not been sanctioned. Exports of potash were up 70% year on year in the first half of this ...
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