Captain Kirk's Wisdom

Wouldn't it be awesome if he posted here? I think you'd have to put him on "the list" even though he is really old and it seems kind of gross. I mean, we are talking about Captain James T Kirk here.



"People of the Internet, your nerd lord is displeased. James T. Kirk himself, the man who, at 81, is still in the game enough to have a vibrant Twitter presence and his own app, would like you to know he’s pretty grossed out by what goes down on Reddit.

In January, William Shatner joined Reddit, and soon after posted a fairly innocuous question about turning off private messaging, the better to filter out those “I can choose to ignore.” What followed has been a lively and often contentious conversation about the nature of Reddit itself, and the line between freedom of expression and being a plain old jackass.

“I am appalled by some of the immature, horrifically racist, sexist, homophobic, ethnic … etc … posts that are just ignored here,” Shatner wrote. “Why are these accounts still active? While Reddit has done well in getting interest from the mainstream I just wonder if by allowing these children to run rampant and post whatever they feel will cause the most collateral damage if Reddit is biting off it’s [sic] own nose in taking that step to become a mainstream community … The fact that someone could come here, debase and degrade people based on race, religion, ethnicity or sexual preference because they ‘have a right’ to do so without worry of any kind of moderation is sending the wrong message, in my humble opinion. I don’t pretend to know where the managers of Reddit wish to go with this site but embracing that kind of culture I feel is counterproductive to where this world is heading and I think that is probably hurting this site.”

The thorny and difficult-to-enforce issues that Shatner brought up were met with both hearty approval — “Shatner is right that this behavior is rampant on Reddit. And I, personally, am a bit turned off by it as well” – as well as the expected cries of “I think anyone calling for the censorship of others just because they disagree with the sucky things they say are actually far worse. In other words, calling for the censorship of racists, sexists, et al., is worse than being one.”

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Hear, hear! I'll never really get the counter-argument. I mean, it's a website; they wouldn't be changing a law or strking the 1st amendment. If you run a website, you have your own right to establish a level of decorum, and that supercedes anyone else's right to spout mindless racism, homophobia, et al.

On a completely unrelated note, have you ever noticed that quite a few themes from the old Star Treks are pretty right-wing?
 
Hear, hear! I'll never really get the counter-argument. I mean, it's a website; they wouldn't be changing a law or strking the 1st amendment. If you run a website, you have your own right to establish a level of decorum, and that supercedes anyone else's right to spout mindless racism, homophobia, et al.

On a completely unrelated note, have you ever noticed that quite a few themes from the old Star Treks are pretty right-wing?

I know, it's so great that he said this stuff.

Yes, I have noticed that. I think that Rodenberry was a pretty big sexist for one thing. I hate Turnabout Intruder and absolutely refuse to ever watch it, or even acknowledge it. If you ever watch it Onceler, just notice - I swear to God it's as if Tom wrote it! I mean, really. It just horrified me from the very first time I ever saw it.

Then off the top of my head there is the episode that absolutely IMO defends the Vietnam war. A Private Little War.

Which ones are you thinking of?
 
I know, it's so great that he said this stuff.

Yes, I have noticed that. I think that Rodenberry was a pretty big sexist for one thing. I hate Turnabout Intruder and absolutely refuse to ever watch it, or even acknowledge it. If you ever watch it Onceler, just notice - I swear to God it's as if Tom wrote it! I mean, really. It just horrified me from the very first time I ever saw it.

Then off the top of my head there is the episode that absolutely IMO defends the Vietnam war. A Private Little War.

Which ones are you thinking of?

No doubt about the sexism - the 1st one I thought of was "Mudd's Women," which is the worst ST episode ever, by far.

He always wrote those rugged individualist episodes, with Kirk making a big speech about how people are supposed to scrape & claw their way to success, without help - like the one with all of those naive tribespeople who worshipped Vaal. I was also thinking of the Yangs/Coms episode, which might be the 2nd worst after Mudd. And then there was his whining about the counterculture, in that episode where Spock got a blast from that LSD-plant (and was actually happy for the 1st and only time in his life, I might add).

Rodenberry must have been a righty, but I also read that he was an atheist. Weird.
 
No doubt about the sexism - the 1st one I thought of was "Mudd's Women," which is the worst ST episode ever, by far.

He always wrote those rugged individualist episodes, with Kirk making a big speech about how people are supposed to scrape & claw their way to success, without help - like the one with all of those naive tribespeople who worshipped Vaal. I was also thinking of the Yangs/Coms episode, which might be the 2nd worst after Mudd. And then there was his whining about the counterculture, in that episode where Spock got a blast from that LSD-plant (and was actually happy for the 1st and only time in his life, I might add).

Rodenberry must have been a righty, but I also read that he was an atheist. Weird.

Oh Mudd's Women, I totally forgot about that episode. That episode is awful. You know what I just thought of, that really good episode where the alien is Jack The Ripper (Wolf in the Fold), and Spock says "I suspect he chooses female victims because women are more easily and more deeply terrified than me". Shut up spock! Meanwhile here, they piss their pants when a cat vomits in front of the doorway, and I am not kidding.

Yes, you are right, excellent points!
 
Oh Mudd's Women, I totally forgot about that episode. That episode is awful. You know what I just thought of, that really good episode where the alien is Jack The Ripper (Wolf in the Fold), and Spock says "I suspect he chooses female victims because women are more easily and more deeply terrified than me". Shut up spock! Meanwhile here, they piss their pants when a cat vomits in front of the doorway, and I am not kidding.

Yes, you are right, excellent points!

That's the one w/ the squeaky-voiced guy who you said Yurt probably sounds like. To this day, that's the voice I hear when I read his posts. It's perfect.
 
That's the one w/ the squeaky-voiced guy who you said Yurt probably sounds like. To this day, that's the voice I hear when I read his posts. It's perfect.

LOL I never even thought of this, this is so funny and so perfect. I am never going to be able to picture Yurt any other way now.
 
Hear, hear! I'll never really get the counter-argument. I mean, it's a website; they wouldn't be changing a law or strking the 1st amendment. If you run a website, you have your own right to establish a level of decorum, and that supercedes anyone else's right to spout mindless racism, homophobia, et al.

On a completely unrelated note, have you ever noticed that quite a few themes from the old Star Treks are pretty right-wing?

Quite a few are pretty left wing too. Roddenberry was inspired.
 
The Christian bashing alone would eliminate a majority of the posters here.....as long as the Obama's politics bashing, that is mis-characterized as racist doesn't count....lol
 
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