Challenging Hume to a Debate #2 - Physics of the Global Warming Faith : Is Greenhouse Effect Even Possible?

You need to learn to be specific. An increase in temperature is an increase in thermal energy.


Translation: Can thermal energy be redistributed to result in a higher average temperature?
Answer: No.
So, the temperature inside your car, with the windows closed, won't be higher than outside the car. Is that what you're saying?

I said nothing about average temperature.
 
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It may. It may not. I don't think anyone is claiming to know with absolute certainty if CO2 in the atmosphere impacts climate or weather events.
of course there are people claiming with absolute certainty about co2 and climate.

they're called envrironmentalists.

they want to starve and murder billions of people over it, with green austerity policy and mRNA fake vaccines.

even discussing the "science" with these people is a losing game.

they're Nazis first and foremost, science is just their weak covering.
 
of course there are people claiming with absolute certainty about co2 and climate.

they're called envrironmentalists.

they want to starve and murder billions of people over it, with green austerity policy and mRNA fake vaccines.
Ok. Nobody that actually matters is going to claim anything with certainty.

Extremists' opinions don't matter. Neither to talking heads on cable news channels.
 
Ok. Nobody that actually matters is going to claim anything with certainty.
People in high government are planning global treaties to destroy the american economy over it.

see Paris Accords.

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ANd the corporate world is also ensconcing these Nazis policies into policy as well.

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People in high government are planning global treaties to destroy the american economy over it.

see Paris Accords.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Paris_Agreement
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  3. The Paris Agreement | UNFCCC

    https://unfccc.int › process-and-meetings › the-paris-agreement
    Implementation of the Paris Agreement requires economic and social transformation, based on the best available science.The ParisAgreement works on a five-year cycle of increasingly ambitious climate action -- or, ratcheting up -- carried out by countries.Since 2020, countries have been submitting their national climate action plans, known as nationally determined contributions (NDCs).
  4. What is the Paris Agreement? Everything you need to know

    https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2020 › 11 › paris-agreement-climate-change-us-biden
    The Paris Agreement is the global plan to keep temperature increases well below 2°C above pre-industrial levels. At COP26, Article 6 of the Paris Agreement was approved. Ahead of COP27, global attention has once more turned to efforts to tackle climate change. This article was updated on 25 October 2022. Ahead of COP27, the world's focus has ...
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The government isn't going to destroy our economy over it. Lots of people in government talk. Most of them say stupid things, but don't follow through on it.
 
You need to learn to be specific. An increase in temperature is an increase in thermal energy.


Translation: Can thermal energy be redistributed to result in a higher average temperature?
Answer: No.
So, the temperature inside your car, with the windows closed, won't be higher than outside the car. Is that what you're saying?

I said nothing about average temperature.
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The claim ... nay, the prayer of the world's devout warmizombies warns that CO2 and other invisible atmospheric gases simply increase the earth's average global equilibrium temperature simply by existing, i.e. that the earth's average global equilibrium temperature increases because of the addition of these gases to the atmosphere, not because of any additional thermal radiation (increased Wattage) output from the sun.

The debate question is whether such a concept is even possible in physics.

I take the negative position (i.e. it is not possible) and Hume takes the affirmative position (it is possible and is occurring).

Hume, I'll serve first with my signature explaining why it's all a bunch of hooey. The ball is now in your court.
This might help:

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So, the temperature inside your car, with the windows closed, won't be higher than outside the car. Is that what you're saying?
The temperature inside the car will increase as you redistribute thermal energy into the car's interior and restrict it from flowing away.

I said nothing about average temperature.
I know. You're EVADING the topic of the thread, i.e. earth's average global equilibrium temperature. You are EVADING because you have only dishonest word games and rapid pivots.

Your car example is just one of redistributing existing thermal energy and maintaining the exact same average temperature.

You are desperately trying to reword the debate to be "can a temperature somewhere change?"
 
This might help: [junk disinformation omitted]
Nope. It doesn't help. It's wrong. It was obviously crafted to most effectively sway the scientifically illiterate ignorants of our society. It's mind-boggling that you didn't mention it sooner.
 
Nope. It doesn't help. It's wrong. It was obviously crafted to most effectively sway the scientifically illiterate ignorants of our society. It's mind-boggling that you didn't mention it sooner.
YOu have got to be kidding.

The NASA paper is "crafted to sway the most scientifically illiterate..."

You are dismissed as a loon.

And a weird one at that.
 
The temperature inside the car will increase as you redistribute thermal energy into the car's interior and restrict it from flowing away.


I know. You're EVADING the topic of the thread, i.e. earth's average global equilibrium temperature. You are EVADING because you have only dishonest word games and rapid pivots.

Your car example is just one of redistributing existing thermal energy and maintaining the exact same average temperature.

You are desperately trying to reword the debate to be "can a temperature somewhere change?"
I'm not evading anything. I was just addressing one of the items that you put emphasis on, which is that the warming of the Earth, or the atmosphere, was happening without any additional energy from the Sun. Equilibrium doesn't matter to the dead dog or dead child inside of a car, with the windows closed, on a hot sunny day. Now that we agree that temperatures in a specific area can increase with no additional energy, we can move forward to other questions.

Here's one... If we agree that the temperature inside of a car, a house, etc can significantly increase without additional energy from the Sun, why can't the temperature of the Earth, and the atmosphere from ground level up, increase with no additional energy from the Sun?
 
YOu have got to be kidding.
You are required to react that way to anything that does not align with your mindless thought-collective.

You're the scientifically illiterate moron in this equation, not I.

The NASA paper is "crafted to sway the most scientifically illiterate..."
... and it swayed you, yes.

You are dismissed as a scientifically illiterate loon.
 
I'm not evading anything. I was just addressing one of the items that you put emphasis on,
Nope. You are EVADING the concept of "average temperature" in your lame attempt to make it about "temperature can change."

Do you really think I'm going to fall for that?

which is that the warming of the Earth,
You have to define "warming."

Here's one... If we agree that the temperature inside of a car, a house, etc can significantly increase without additional energy from the Sun, why can't the temperature of the Earth, and the atmosphere from ground level up, increase with no additional energy from the Sun?
If you want to debate whether the temperature somewhere can change, start your own thread. That is not the thread topic here.
 
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