Change the world. Use cash.

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Why we should pay cash everywhere with banknotes instead of a card

- I have a $50 banknote in my pocket. Going to a restaurant and paying for dinner with it.
The restaurant owner then uses the bill to pay for the laundry.
The laundry owner then uses the bill to pay the barber.
The barber will then use the bill for shopping.
After an unlimited number of payments, it will still remain a $50 value, which has fulfilled its purpose to everyone who used it for payment and the bank has jumped dry from every cash payment transaction made.

BUT

IF I come to a restaurant and pay digitally via Card,
- the bank fees for my payment transaction charged to the seller are 3%, so around $1.50
( and so will be the fee of $1.50 for each further payment transaction )
-for the owner re laundry or
- payments of the owner of the laundry shop,
- or payments of the barber etc.....
Therefore, after 30 transactions, the initial $50 will exist at only $5 and the remaining $45 has become the property of the bank … thanks to all of the digital transactions and fees!
Use it or lose it folks…
Once it’s gone we won’t get it back!
Cash is king!


Aye to that, cobbler.
 
Aye to that, cobbler.

There is another alternative, crypto currencies, which have very low fees, or precious metals if it can't be done with cryptos. The problem with government issued cash is that banks basically get to produce tons of it out of thin air, or "quantitative easing".

My favourite documentary on the problem with the current monetary system for those who aren't aware of the issues is this one:

 
Aye to that, cobbler.
The restaurant owner pays his food suppliers with credit. As his suppliers do, and their suppliers do.

If everyone paid cash only, then there would be 50% less spending or more in this nation.
 
There is another alternative, crypto currencies, which have very low fees, or precious metals if it can't be done with cryptos. The problem with government issued cash is that banks basically get to produce tons of it out of thin air, or "quantitative easing".

My favourite documentary on the problem with the current monetary system for those who aren't aware of the issues is this one:


crypto is also fiat currency.

crypto is a charade to get otherwise smart people to NOT invest in gold and real estate.
 
The restaurant owner pays his food suppliers with credit. As his suppliers do, and their suppliers do.

If everyone paid cash only, then there would be 50% less spending or more in this nation.

so the market in ridiculous and useless frivolities would dry up?

real food is better than illusory delights.
 
The restaurant owner pays his food suppliers with credit. As his suppliers do, and their suppliers do.

If everyone paid cash only, then there would be 50% less spending or more in this nation.
Hmmm, that's interesting but probably true. I never have cash!
 
The restaurant owner pays his food suppliers with credit. As his suppliers do, and their suppliers do.

If everyone paid cash only, then there would be 50% less spending or more in this nation.

Well they should save themselves the shylock's fees and pay cash. Same amount of spending- fewer parasites getting rich on usury.
It's good business not to be in debt.
 
Well they should save themselves the shylock's fees and pay cash. Same amount of spending- fewer parasites getting rich on usury.
It's good business not to be in debt.
Every nation in the world relies on debt to conduct business.

There are no fees for using credit cards unless you don't have the cash to pay at the end of the month

I love my cards. I earn tons of cash each year.

Of course, at the expense of those who don't use cards.
 
Every nation in the world relies on debt to conduct business.

In some countries charging interest is illegal.

There are no fees for using credit cards unless you don't have the cash to pay at the end of the month

I guess that depends upon the card-issuer. Certainly the receiver of payment by card has to pay the issuer heavily . The last time I had a card machine I had to pay them to take it away.
Also, if you used your end-of -the-month cash wisely throughout the month then you'd have no risk of a card default.

I love my cards. I earn tons of cash each year.

Of course, at the expense of those who don't use cards.

I don't see how cash-only buyers contribute to your fortune in any way.
 
Most countries outside of the US and Western Europe still run daily purchases and such on a cash basis. If you go to the Middle East for example, using a credit card means the merchant will tack on 3% to the cost of whatever you're buying to cover the transaction fee. It isn't hidden in the pricing as vendors expect you to pay cash. Asia is much the same way. They will take credit but really prefer--heavily prefer--you pay in cash.

The big problem with credit cards is that most people cannot manage these properly. They don't keep track of spending except when the bill shows up. That leads to running balances as they spend too much.

Interestingly, Gen Z or whatever they're calling the older teen young adult generation today often has a seriously hard time even making change. They expect you to wave a card at a reader and it all gets paid. They even get a little annoyed that you want a paper receipt.
 
Every nation in the world relies on debt to conduct business.

There are no fees for using credit cards unless you don't have the cash to pay at the end of the month

I love my cards. I earn tons of cash each year.

Of course, at the expense of those who don't use cards.

yes. the central banker keynesian totalitarians have been very successful.
 
In some countries charging interest is illegal.
I'm guessing there are no banks?



I guess that depends upon the card-issuer. Certainly the receiver of payment by card has to pay the issuer heavily . The last time I had a card machine I had to pay them to take it away
. Vendors have no choice now, as they don't want to lose the business. For many, the 2%-3% that they pay is worth the 'guaranteed' payment. In the dark ages, checks would bounce on a regular basis.
Also, if you used your end-of -the-month cash wisely throughout the month then you'd have no risk of a card default.
Not sure what you mean, but if you're assuming I use cards because I don't have money, you're mistaken. Although many do use them due to lack of funds.. I use them for everything since Covid. I don't want to handle cash from grocery stores. But for business, I spend thousands upon thousands of dollars and get anywhere from 2%-5% back simply for swiping. I get 5% back on gas every day of the year. Recently I was saving $.25/gallon.

It also makes for paperwork reduction, as I don't have to save every receipt from every purchase.



I don't see how cash-only buyers contribute to your fortune in any way.
I don't remember saying that they do? I merely stated that my good fortune comes at the expense of cash payers, as many argue that the fee for credit service is factored into the prices already.
 
There is another alternative, crypto currencies, which have very low fees, or precious metals if it can't be done with cryptos. The problem with government issued cash is that banks basically get to produce tons of it out of thin air, or "quantitative easing".

My favourite documentary on the problem with the current monetary system for those who aren't aware of the issues is this one:


crypto is also fiat currency.

No, it's not. From investopedia:

**
Fiat money is a government-issued currency that is not backed by a physical commodity, such as gold or silver, but rather by the government that issued it. The value of fiat money is derived from the relationship between supply and demand and the stability of the issuing government, rather than the worth of a commodity backing it. Most modern paper currencies are fiat currencies, including the U.S. dollar, the euro, and other major global currencies.
**

Source:
Fiat Money: What It Is, How It Works, Example, Pros & Cons | investopedia.com

Now, that's not to say that governments can't create cryptos of their own. Venezuela did this with its Petro, but I'm not impressed. An article on it:

**
It sounded too good to be true – and it was. The Petro’s launch was fraught with a myriad of troubles, from vague statements from the Venezuelan government to outright lies. For example, officials stated that before the release of the Petro they had already sold over 700 million dollars.

When crypto-traders checked the blockchain they quickly realized that every single Petro was owned by a single wallet and there wasn’t even one transaction. So, was the Petro a scam? Not really. The Blockchain exists, and people have been able to buy and sell Petros.

Nevertheless, the currency is shrouded in mystery and drama. For example, Joey Zhou, Etherium’s creator, pointed out that the Petro’s whitepaper was a blatant clone of Dash’s. And the latest controversy seems to be that the Petro was hard-forked a couple of weeks ago, with the block explorer showing that the genesis block was mined in 2018 and on May 5th, 2020.

**

Source:
Government-issued cryptocurrencies: An overview | blockgeeks.com

I'd like to say that the last time I moved the 2 largest cryptos by market cap, Bitcoin and Ethereum, I wasn't impressed with either them, Bitcoin in particular. Ethereum was fairly expensive to move in the past. Bitcoin was even more so, and very slow to move as well. However, I checked just now and the cost to move Ethereum has gone way down, to a little less than 3 cents to move from one wallet to another:
Does a transaction between two accounts of an Ethereum Wallet cost fees? | ethereum.stackexchange.com

Another plus about Ethereum is that it's no longer mined, which would take a lot of energy that I think can be better used on things people actually need, like heating their homes.


Bitcoin doesn't seem to have improved much if at all. The cost to transfer it has varied over its lifetime. It's currently around $2, which isn't bad if you're doing large transactions, but obviously bad for small ones. And it's gone a lot higher than that:
**
As Business Insider reported, the cost of sending a Bitcoin transaction was averaging around $37 during a peak in popularity in late 2017. According to CoinDesk, there was even a brief period of time in April 2021 where the average fee was roughly $59.
**

Source:
Crypto Transaction Fees: How Much it Costs to Send Bitcoin | blog.invity.io

Another thing about Bitcoin is that it's still mined, and it is by far the most energy intensive mining in the market of mined cryptos.

crypto is a charade to get otherwise smart people to NOT invest in gold and real estate.

Personally, I'd much prefer owning the home I live in over owning the equivalent value in crypto. Crypto values go up and down all the time, but not having to pay rent every month is a steady gain. Also, the value of a home is generally much less fraught to the types of ups and downs that cryptos have. That being said, the value of the top cryptos in generaly has steadily risen in the long term. I still remember the story of how the first Bitcoin transaction involved paying 10,000 Bitcoin just to buy 2 Papa John's pizzas back in 2010:
https://themoneymongers.com/first-bitcoin-transaction/

A single Bitcoin is currently valued at over $17,000 US. Those 10,000 Bitcoins today would net you over $170 million. Assuming that 2 extra large pizzas were ordered back in 2010 and going by today's prize of $17 each for a total of $34, that's an increase in value of around 500,000,000%. I think we can all agree that'd have been a whoppingly good 12 year investment.


For another example, we can turn to Ethereum. I'm not sure what Ethereum's first transaction was, but coinmarketcap shows its initial market value at a little under $3 back in August 2015. It actually fell initially, going as low as 54 cents in October 2015, before recuperating to its original value in February 2016. After that, it never went back to its original value. It's currently valued at over $1,200 US, or around a 40,000% increase in value. Not nearly as dramatic as the Bitcoin story, but still a very good investment if you got a large stash when it started out at under $3. Now, that doesn't mean that people haven't lost a lot of money in cryptos, and both Ethereum and Bitcoin have been worth a lot more than they currently are as well, with Bitcoin going as high as $67,000 US and Ethereum going as high as $4,700 US. As I said previously, I'd rather own my home then cryptos. But if that was taken care of, I'd much rather have certain cryptos then a large store of fiat currency. What's more, you'd be supporting a decentralized system, not fat cat corporate banks. The top cryptos such as Bitcoin and Ethereum have stood the test of time much better than regular currencies.

One thing I should probably mention- I currently own no cryptos. Not only do I not own the home I live in, I have debts, so I doubt I'll be getting any crypto in the foreseeable future.
 
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Every nation in the world relies on debt to conduct business.

There are no fees for using credit cards unless you don't have the cash to pay at the end of the month

I love my cards. I earn tons of cash each year.

Of course, at the expense of those who don't use cards.

Of course there are.

There are the fees that the card companies charge the seller.
And the retailers then pass on that cost to the consumer, in the form of higher prices.

Plus, higher end cards do charge fees to the user.
 
No, it's not. From investopedia:

**
Fiat money is a government-issued currency that is not backed by a physical commodity, such as gold or silver, but rather by the government that issued it. The value of fiat money is derived from the relationship between supply and demand and the stability of the issuing government, rather than the worth of a commodity backing it. Most modern paper currencies are fiat currencies, including the U.S. dollar, the euro, and other major global currencies.
**

Source:
Fiat Money: What It Is, How It Works, Example, Pros & Cons | investopedia.com

Now, that's not to say that governments can't create cryptos of their own. Venezuela did this with its Petro, but I'm not impressed. An article on it:

**
It sounded too good to be true – and it was. The Petro’s launch was fraught with a myriad of troubles, from vague statements from the Venezuelan government to outright lies. For example, officials stated that before the release of the Petro they had already sold over 700 million dollars.

When crypto-traders checked the blockchain they quickly realized that every single Petro was owned by a single wallet and there wasn’t even one transaction. So, was the Petro a scam? Not really. The Blockchain exists, and people have been able to buy and sell Petros.

Nevertheless, the currency is shrouded in mystery and drama. For example, Joey Zhou, Etherium’s creator, pointed out that the Petro’s whitepaper was a blatant clone of Dash’s. And the latest controversy seems to be that the Petro was hard-forked a couple of weeks ago, with the block explorer showing that the genesis block was mined in 2018 and on May 5th, 2020.

**

Source:
Government-issued cryptocurrencies: An overview | blockgeeks.com

I'd like to say that the last time I moved the 2 largest cryptos by market cap, Bitcoin and Ethereum, I wasn't impressed with either them, Bitcoin in particular. Ethereum was fairly expensive to move in the past. Bitcoin was even more so, and very slow to move as well. However, I checked just now and the cost to move Ethereum has gone way down, to a little less than 3 cents to move from one wallet to another:
Does a transaction between two accounts of an Ethereum Wallet cost fees? | ethereum.stackexchange.com

Another plus about Ethereum is that it's no longer mined, which would take a lot of energy that I think can be better used on things people actually need, like heating their homes.


Bitcoin doesn't seem to have improved much if at all. The cost to transfer it has varied over its lifetime. It's currently around $2, which isn't bad if you're doing large transactions, but obviously bad for small ones. And it's gone a lot higher than that:
**
As Business Insider reported, the cost of sending a Bitcoin transaction was averaging around $37 during a peak in popularity in late 2017. According to CoinDesk, there was even a brief period of time in April 2021 where the average fee was roughly $59.
**

Source:
Crypto Transaction Fees: How Much it Costs to Send Bitcoin | blog.invity.io

Another thing about Bitcoin is that it's still mined, and it is by far the most energy intensive mining in the market of mined cryptos.



Personally, I'd much prefer owning the home I live in over owning the equivalent value in crypto. Crypto values go up and down all the time, but not having to pay rent every month is a steady gain. Also, the value of a home is generally much less fraught to the types of ups and downs that cryptos have. That being said, the value of the top cryptos in generaly has steadily risen in the long term. I still remember the story of how the first Bitcoin transaction involved paying 10,000 Bitcoin just to buy 2 Papa John's pizzas back in 2010:
https://themoneymongers.com/first-bitcoin-transaction/

A single Bitcoin is currently valued at over $17,000 US. Those 10,000 Bitcoins today would net you over $170 million. Assuming that 2 extra large pizzas were ordered back in 2010 and going by today's prize of $17 each for a total of $34, that's an increase in value of around 500,000,000%. I think we can all agree that'd have been a whoppingly good 12 year investment.


For another example, we can turn to Ethereum. I'm not sure what Ethereum's first transaction was, but coinmarketcap shows its initial market value at a little under $3 back in August 2015. It actually fell initially, going as low as 54 cents in October 2015, before recuperating to its original value in February 2016. After that, it never went back to its original value. It's currently valued at over $1,200 US, or around a 40,000% increase in value. Not nearly as dramatic as the Bitcoin story, but still a very good investment if you got a large stash when it started out at under $3. Now, that doesn't mean that people haven't lost a lot of money in cryptos, and both Ethereum and Bitcoin have been worth a lot more than they currently are as well, with Bitcoin going as high as $67,000 US and Ethereum going as high as $4,700 US. As I said previously, I'd rather own my home then cryptos. But if that was taken care of, I'd much rather have certain cryptos then a large store of fiat currency. What's more, you'd be supporting a decentralized system, not fat cat corporate banks. The top cryptos such as Bitcoin and Ethereum have stood the test of time much better than regular currencies.

One thing I should probably mention- I currently own no cryptos. Not only do I not own the home I live in, I have debts, so I doubt I'll be getting any crypto in the foreseeable future.

it's another fiat currency.

real dum dum stuff.
 
I'm guessing there are no banks?

Islam does not permit usury

. Vendors have no choice now, as they don't want to lose the business. For many, the 2%-3% that they pay is worth the 'guaranteed' payment. In the dark ages, checks would bounce on a regular basis.
So do not accept checks. Cash or bank transfer eliminates the card profiteers.

Not sure what you mean, but if you're assuming I use cards because I don't have money, you're mistaken. Although many do use them due to lack of funds.. I use them for everything since Covid. I don't want to handle cash from grocery stores. But for business, I spend thousands upon thousands of dollars and get anywhere from 2%-5% back simply for swiping. I get 5% back on gas every day of the year. Recently I was saving $.25/gallon.

So who is paying for your good fortune ?

It also makes for paperwork reduction, as I don't have to save every receipt from every purchase.

I insist on a receipt if I'm forced to use a card. Have you ever been the victim of card fraudsters ?

I don't remember saying that they do? I merely stated that my good fortune comes at the expense of cash payers, as many argue that the fee for credit service is factored into the prices already.

I assumed that's what you meant. So people who use cash are paying fees for cards they don't use and card-based sellers are fueling inflation ?
 
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