Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
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gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Plenty of people are also firm advocates of things such as: knives, baseball bats, medications/drugs, vehicles, and food/water.
So is the argument "there and can be made"?
Guns can do much more harm than knives you fool.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
All those other things you mentioned have a primary purpose other than violent assault or death.
Guns do not.
Violence and death are what guns are designed and built for.
Guns are the weapon/tool of choice for the modern day killer/murderer/mass shooter/angry nutjob with a chip on his shoulder and an axe to grind.
Translation: I will maintain my ignorance and pretend that ignorance is wisdom in a weird post apocalyptic 1984 version of Newspeak.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Both of those tools can be (and are) (mis)used to kill humans, Lurch. However, that is NOT the intended purpose of either tool.
鬼百合
One day we will wake to his obituary :-)
Republicans in Utah passed a law allowing guns on college campuses, and Charlie Kirk was fatally shot at one of those campuses
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Republicans in Utah passed a law allowing guns on college campuses, and Charlie Kirk was fatally shot at one of those campuses
Orem, UT – Utah Republicans passed House Bill 128 during the 2025 General Session, allowing individuals 18 and older with a concealed weapon permit (CWP)…
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gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Yup, and that's the same with guns.
Yes, guns do. One such purpose is target training. One such purpose is controlling animal populations (aka 'hunting'). One such purpose is a potential need for self-defense. One such purpose is varmint control. One such purpose is sport/competition.
Not true, and guns were NEVER designed to kill other humans. That, however, is how some humans choose to misuse that particular tool. (no different than choosing to misuse any other tool, such as: a knife, a baseball bat, medication, vehicles, etc.
So? Even IF you could remove all guns from the world (impossible), do you really think that people wouldn't just switch to some other tool to misuse? (e.g. knives)
ziggy
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EXCLUSIVE: This morning my team received an e-mail from officer at ATF.
The email included a screen shot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.
"On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI.""
View: https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267?t=O6TCEO-29MnraiINSgGsJw&s=19
The email included a screen shot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.
"On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI.""
View: https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267?t=O6TCEO-29MnraiINSgGsJw&s=19
That’s bullshit, Trump ain’t a counterpuncher, Roy Cohn didn’t teach him to hold back, Trump is the puncher, and guarantee he will pimp this tragedy for all the mileage he can get
And again, Democrats didn’t shoot Kirk, no more than Republicans assassinated the two legislators or fire bombed the Governor’s house, it was a dimwit just as it was in those other instances
Oh, kinda like a person who wines and dines Holocaust deniers in their home, and we all know that one is not a “leftist”
There are signs of it starting ALREADY. Whoever did this opened up a Pandora's box they never expected. Think of what happened over George Floyd,....now think what's going to happen over a nice young man like Charlie Kirk.My prediction? This horrific event will lead to good men being even better men and bad men being even worse men. GOOD WILL PREVAIL.
Charlie might become MAGA's own Horst Wessel.
