Children suffer from America’s use of chemical weapons during the Vietnam War

Abraxas said:
Frankly I would it was a small price to pay for having Vietnam as a friend and keeping them out of the Chinese sphere of influence. It is very small beer compared to countless billions wasted in Iraq.
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Yeah, sure. As soon as they apologize and give reparations to Senator McCain for the loss of the use of his arms, and to all of the prisoners at the Hanoi Hilton they brutalized.

If it was up to me, we'd still be carpet-bombing them.
 
Taft2016 said:
Yeah, sure. As soon as they apologize and give reparations to Senator McCain for the loss of the use of his arms, and to all of the prisoners at the Hanoi Hilton they brutalized.

If it was up to me, we'd still be carpet-bombing them.
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Yeah, I'm still pissed about it too. When we invaded them they should have greeted us as liberators and instead they fought their invaders. Bastards.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Do you intend to be at the forefront of one of those mobs?
Are you willing to put yourself as one of the first ones to be shot down, or do you intend to just sit back somewhere and tell others that they should go?
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If I told you, I would have to kill you.
 
Taft2016 said:
Yeah, sure. As soon as they apologize and give reparations to Senator McCain for the loss of the use of his arms, and to all of the prisoners at the Hanoi Hilton they brutalized.

If it was up to me, we'd still be carpet-bombing them.
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That's why slitting your throat would be a good thing.
 
Taft2016 said:
Certainly it could. We have thousands of people right here in this country who were directly exposed to Agent Orange, probably more direct contact than any Vietnamese natives experienced. Surely, we must have scores of these deformed youths running around this country to produce as evidence?

What? We don't?

Didn't think so.

I predict that some uber-libtards will eventually (if they haven't done so already) attempt to blame the radiological problems in Japan on the long-term effects of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, and ignore the tsunami atomic meltdown. Nothing new, really... it's just the long-standing "blame America first" script.
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Lots of people are pissed at the Japanese over Fukushima.
 
Taft2016 said:
Certainly it could. We have thousands of people right here in this country who were directly exposed to Agent Orange, probably more direct contact than any Vietnamese natives experienced. Surely, we must have scores of these deformed youths running around this country to produce as evidence?

What? We don't?

Yes we do. Birth defects are a rampant epidemic in this country, ignorant asshole.

I have two children. Both of them have birth defects. Drink cyanide.

Didn't think so.

I predict that some uber-libtards will eventually (if they haven't done so already) attempt to blame the radiological problems in Japan on the long-term effects of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, and ignore the tsunami atomic meltdown. Nothing new, really... it's just the long-standing "blame America first" script.
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Yes we do. Birth defects are a rampant epidemic in this country, ignorant asshole.

I have two children. Both of them have birth defects. Drink cyanide.
 
Rune said:
Yes we do. Birth defects are a rampant epidemic in this country, ignorant asshole.

I have two children. Both of them have birth defects. Drink cyanide.
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What personal behavior, were you involved in, that caused this to occur.
Possibly to much drug usage and experimentation!
 
Rune said:
Possibly atmospheric pollution, or even water pollution. What happened to your parents?
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POSSIBLY!! - So you have nothing other then supposition and conjecture; which leaves it wide open for it to more probably be some kind of personal behavior that you or your wife had engaged in.
Then again, it could be a result of your parent's behavior.
Outside of your own obvious condition, are birth defects a common occurrence in your family?


What my parent's have to do with your emo behavior, is beyond anything that I can fathom.

OH-WAIT; you tried to make that an insult and failed miserably. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
POSSIBLY!! - So you have nothing other then supposition and conjecture; which leaves it wide open for it to more probably be some kind of personal behavior that you or your wife had engaged in.
Then again, it could be a result of your parent's behavior.
Outside of your own obvious condition, are birth defects a common occurrence in your family?


What my parent's have to do with your emo behavior, is beyond anything that I can fathom.

OH-WAIT; you tried to make that an insult and failed miserably. :D
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Upon reflection, their mother had two birth defects, so it may be some poor genetics, though in her case it was more likely some medication that her mother was on that has since been banned, because none of her 3 siblings have any problems.

My younger son's condition is almost doubtless due to air pollution not sure what happened to the older one, but then likely only God knows.

Now back to you, what caused your mental retardation? Do you think it was genetic? Are your parents idiots too? Or was it something like lack of oxygen at birth?
 
Rune said:
Upon reflection, their mother had two birth defects, so it may be some poor genetics, though in her case it was more likely some medication that her mother was on that has since been banned, because none of her 3 siblings have any problems.

My younger son's condition is almost doubtless due to air pollution not sure what happened to the older one, but then likely only God knows.

Now back to you, what caused your mental retardation? Do you think it was genetic? Are your parents idiots too? Or was it something like lack of oxygen at birth?
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Just because the defect hasn't affected them all, a pattern has been established.
You keep suggesting that pollution has made it worse; but you don't seem to have it verified by a physician.

Once again; you seem to be projecting your family problems on to others, seeing as how you don't seem to be equipped to make a diagnosis on anyone other they yourself and that alone is open to question.
Do you blame your emo behavior on society, genetics, or the way society has treated you?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Just because the defect hasn't affected them all, a pattern has been established.
You keep suggesting that pollution has made it worse; but you don't seem to have it verified by a physician.

Once again; you seem to be projecting your family problems on to others, seeing as how you don't seem to be equipped to make a diagnosis on anyone other they yourself and that alone is open to question.
Do you blame your emo behavior on society, genetics, or the way society has treated you?
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I really think we need to sort out the source of your stupidity before wondering if my behavior is emo or not. So, were your parents morons too? Did you have a childhood head injury perhaps?
 
Rune said:
Yes we do. Birth defects are a rampant epidemic in this country, ignorant asshole.

I have two children. Both of them have birth defects. Drink cyanide.
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Are they related to you being exposed to Agent Orange?

Do you have any idea what this discussion is about?
 
Rune said:
Possibly atmospheric pollution, or even water pollution. What happened to your parents?
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So children in the USA can have birth defects from pollution, as I've described.

But apparently that same scenario in Vietnam is impossible. It has to be caused by Agent Orange there.

Oh brother. These discussions are as productive as putting my scrotum on an anvil and whacking it with a ballpeen hammer.
 
Taft2016 said:
Are they related to you being exposed to Agent Orange?

Do you have any idea what this discussion is about?
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No, it was about correcting an inaccurate statement you tried to use to justify your position.

You claimed another falsehood as well, and since you have reared your ugly head again, I will use my self and my children again, to again prove you wrong. I was a child during 'Nam and I have children, not grandchildren, so your other attempted strawman is false as well. Modern generations can be much longer than the 20 years you imply.
 
Taft2016 said:
So children in the USA can have birth defects from pollution, as I've described.

But apparently that same scenario in Vietnam is impossible. It has to be caused by Agent Orange there.

Oh brother. These discussions are as productive as putting my scrotum on an anvil and whacking it with a ballpeen hammer.
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Yet you choose to ignore the direct evidence provided by blood tests that abnormally high dioxin levels are present in Vietnamese near Agent Orange storage sites.
 
Taft2016 said:
So children in the USA can have birth defects from pollution, as I've described.

But apparently that same scenario in Vietnam is impossible. It has to be caused by Agent Orange there.

Oh brother. These discussions are as productive as putting my scrotum on an anvil and whacking it with a ballpeen hammer.
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No dickhead. There are obviously many causes of birth defects. Agent Orange is one of many.

What cannot be denied, no matter how much you twist and turn, lie and protest is the incredible toxicity of Dioxin, the principle ingredient in Agent Orange.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs225/en/

Dioxins are environmental pollutants. They have the dubious distinction of belonging to the “dirty dozen” - a group of dangerous chemicals known as persistent organic pollutants. Dioxins are of concern because of their highly toxic potential. Experiments have shown they affect a number of organs and systems.
Once dioxins have entered the body, they endure a long time because of their chemical stability and their ability to be absorbed by fat tissue, where they are then stored in the body. Their half-life in the body is estimated to be seven to eleven years. In the environment, dioxins tend to accumulate in the food chain. The higher in the animal food chain one goes, the higher the concentration of dioxin


Their effect on human reproduction and health;



  • Dioxins are highly toxic and can cause reproductive and developmental problems, damage the immune system, interfere with hormones and also cause cancer.

Their longevity once ingested;

Vietnamese men living near a former U.S. military base where Agent Orange was stored and sprayed more than 40 years ago remain highly contaminated with dioxins, according to a new study.
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2014/mar/vietnamese-men-dioxin-exposure

or the fact that the US spread vast amounts of the most toxic substance known to man (dioxin is the single most powerful poison existing at this time).

Your entire argument boils down to an attempt to obscure reality and deny the truth, nothing more, nothing less.

 
USFREEDOM911 said:
What personal behavior, were you involved in, that caused this to occur.
Possibly to much drug usage and experimentation!
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That's bad due; really bad. To pick on a guy's special needs kids like that, while on another thread you tell proplr to behave themselves.
 
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