China, world's worst polluter & poachers, sold 5.67 million EVs and plug-ins in 2022

[Bigdog]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...mysterious-trump-tower-lease/?sh=55ffb8d2ed11

If you can't post a significant quote, then the link is not worth my time reading.

The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

 

[floridafan]

If you can't post a significant quote, then the link is not worth my time reading.

The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

So China paying millions of dollars to Trump means nothing, nor does the 10's of millions he owed to the Chinese banks? We know that Trump is an iceberg. Whatever we learn about him is a tiny percentage of what he has done.

 

[Bigdog]

So China paying millions of dollars to Trump means nothing, nor does the 10's of millions he owed to the Chinese banks? We know that Trump is an iceberg. Whatever we learn about him is a tiny percentage of what he has done.

Donald Trump was a popular celebrity international businessman before he became president and the Leftist demonized him.

You have provided absolutely no evidence of a quid pro quo.

Plugs Biden made his millions as a 50 year corrupt career politician.

The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

A highly and centrally planned economy is an inflexible disaster. The Soviet Union proved that. Mao's China proved it. North Korea proves it. While an unregulated economy is chaos, one that is regulated but not planned works best. That is the government is a referee to make sure everyone plays nice and fair, but the government doesn't tell everyone what they must make and how much of it.
The problem today is that government is increasingly doing just that: Telling the market what they can and cannot make, and how much of it they must make.

You have your beliefs and values and I have mine.
Nothing different here.

 

[floridafan]

Donald Trump was a popular celebrity international businessman before he became president and the Leftist demonized him.

You have provided absolutely no evidence of a quid pro quo.

Plugs Biden made his millions as a 50 year corrupt career politician.

The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

While President, Trump was collecting millions from the Communist China. Again all while President, he owed millions to Communist Chinese Banks. These are facts my dear, so eat your heart out.

 

[Bigdog]

While President, Trump was collecting millions from the Communist China. Again all while President, he owed millions to Communist Chinese Banks. These are facts my dear, so eat your heart out.

Then you'll have no problem posting quotes about the evidence, the exact amounts, proof the CCP gov't paid him, and your source right here. For everyone to see. Thank you.



The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

 

[floridafan]

Then you'll have no problem posting quotes about the evidence, the exact amounts, proof the CCP gov't paid him, and your source right here. For everyone to see. Thank you.



The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

Even that wont satisfy you, sweetie.
All you got is total bullshit and lies. Now I challenge you to post all the evidence you have against our President. I demand you post evidence, exact amounts, proof of your claims, and you sources. Now fuck off!!!!!

 

[Bigdog]

Even that wont satisfy you, sweetie.
All you got is total bullshit and lies. Now I challenge you to post all the evidence you have against our President. I demand you post evidence, exact amounts, proof of your claims, and you sources. Now fuck off!!!!!

Uh Yeeeeaah ... you got nothing.


The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

 

[floridafan]

Uh Yeeeeaah ... you got nothing.


The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and Chinese chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

I couldn't give a shit what you post

 

[Bigdog]

I couldn't give a shit what you post

Like the rest of the Al Gorian sadists you don't give a shit about the planet.

Al Gore is THE worst thing that ever happened to the environmentalist movement.

The big picture is the current deforestation, over fishing, bottom trawling, long line fishing, shark finning, bycatch, poaching, radiation and chemical pollution. Not what may or may not happen with life-giving CO2 100 years from now. The woke are comatose.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Well, you have consider that China offers the following incentives and subsidies to citizens to buy an EV:

Buying a new EV is exempt from all taxes

The purchase price is subsidized by 30% (this is being reduced this year to 20)

Government is heavily investing in the infrastructure to produce EV's, thus reducing their market price.

VAT on used EV's is reduced from 3% (the norm) to 0.5%

The government has put in place mandated production percentages for EV's (see the New Energy Vehicle NEV mandate) meaning manufacturers selling China have to increase the percentage of EV in their sales fleet artificially regardless of market demand.

Once again, it is only government interference in the market that is driving sales. Without that fascist, statist capitalist, top-down, push-down approach, nobody would be buying the fucking things.

America and most other countries have incentives, not mandates. If you don't know the difference, then you're a fucking retard.
And the more you push this ridiculous narrative and deny the current popularity of EVs, the stupider you look.
Your choice.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

America and most other countries have incentives, not mandates. If you don't know the difference, then you're a fucking retard.
And the more you push this ridiculous narrative and deny the current popularity of EVs, the stupider you look.
Your choice.

The US has mandates now, just like many other countries.

California, followed by several other deep blue (eg., Democrat / fascist) states have passed legislation ending all ICE vehicle sales by 2035. That's a fucking mandate! Norway's EV laws and regulations put such onerous burdens on a person buying an ICE vehicle as to make it impossible. That's a mandate by default.

The following countries that have agreed to a 2040 ICE ban are: Austria, Azerbaijan, Cambodia, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Finland, Ghana, Kenya, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Paraguay, Poland, Rwanda, Slovenia, Sweden, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uruguay.

That's a mandate. It is forcing people into the fucking things like it or not. It is also the ONLY reason ICE vehicles are gaining traction in the marketplace. So, you are gleefully supporting fascist, totalitarian government policies and nothing more. That makes you a fascist totalitarian as well.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The US has mandates now, just like many other countries.

California, followed by several other deep blue (eg., Democrat / fascist) states have passed legislation ending all ICE vehicle sales by 2035. That's a fucking mandate! Norway's EV laws and regulations put such onerous burdens on a person buying an ICE vehicle as to make it impossible. That's a mandate by default.

The following countries that have agreed to a 2040 ICE ban are: Austria, Azerbaijan, Cambodia, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Finland, Ghana, Kenya, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Paraguay, Poland, Rwanda, Slovenia, Sweden, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uruguay.

That's a mandate. It is forcing people into the fucking things like it or not. It is also the ONLY reason ICE vehicles are gaining traction in the marketplace. So, you are gleefully supporting fascist, totalitarian government policies and nothing more. That makes you a fascist totalitarian as well.

Really? List for me all the other "several other deep blue states" that "have passed legislation ending all ICE vehicle sales by 2035".
I want to see what you're definition of "several" is.

Your lame, tired argument that the ONLY reason EVs are breaking sales records YOY is because of govt mandates is a big pile of excrement that you can't and won't prove.

Go ahead and whine about it. The EV revolution is here to stay and there's not a fucking think you can do about it. Did you notice all the EV car commercials during the NFL playoffs? Did it make you wet your little pink panties?

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[T. A. Gardner]

Really? List for me all the other "several other deep blue states" that "have passed legislation ending all ICE vehicle sales by 2035".
I want to see what you're definition of "several" is.

Your lame, tired argument that the ONLY reason EVs are breaking sales records YOY is because of govt mandates is a big pile of excrement that you can't and won't prove.

Go ahead and whine about it. The EV revolution is here to stay and there's not a fucking think you can do about it. Did you notice all the EV car commercials during the NFL playoffs? Did it make you wet your little pink panties?

New Electric Vehicles Coming in 2023

Many exciting new electric vehicles are coming to market in the U.S. in 2023 and beyond. From the Tesla Cybertruck and Polestar 5, to the ID.Buzz and Sony Vision, here is everything we know about the newest electric vehicle coming soon.

https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/new-electric-vehicles-coming-in-2023

https://caredge.com/guides/states-banning-ice-cars

Washington: 2030
California, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont: 2035
https://insideevs.com/news/516566/states-targets-end-ice-sales/

The only--ONLY--reason EV's are gaining market share is government is forcing them down the public's throats. That's it. Only reason.