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The difference between these two amounts is nearly $327 million -- a bit above the $300 million Biden cited.
Ultimately, a final bill with slightly higher amounts than the House’s initial bill -- about $60 million more -- was passed by both chambers and signed by the president.
But this approach has problems as well. For starters, Biden glosses over the fact that the president did ultimately sign the bill with the new lower funding amount, meaning he shares some responsibility for the lower level. (All presidential budget requests are opening offers that inevitably become subject to negotiation.)
The main problem with Biden’s claim, however, is that it’s not really what he was referring to in his claim from the debate. Biden said Ryan "cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for," but what passed the House wasn’t Ryan’s budget blueprint -- it was an actual spending bill that emerged from the House Appropriations Committee.
This may be a distinction of interest only to budget wonks, but by muddying the difference, Biden is able to hold up Ryan’s budget -- a long-standing target of Democratic attacks for its approach to Medicare and other federal programs -- as the perpetrator of the cuts, rather than the more obscure appropriations bill.
Our ruling
Both ways of defending the claim of a $300 million cut have some justification, but also come with problems. Extrapolating from Ryan’s budget is a speculative exercise, while the enacted appropriations figures were not directly shaped by Ryan's budget. On balance, we rate the claim Half True.
I am supposed to be the one with short term memory loss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
The World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of theWorld Trade Center in New York, NY. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[SUP][1][/SUP] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing tens of thousands of people.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[SUP][4][/SUP] The attack was planned by a group of terrorists includingRamzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property, and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, andEyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.
Moron.
I don't hate anyone. Young boys get sold a bunch of goods. Why do you think military recruiters are committing suicide at earth shattering rates?
CIA spooks are different. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Half a loaf is better than none. Ryan's budget led to the death of four CIA agents. Your outrage is False. End of story.
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
I was just wondering if anyone had seen a you tube video that might piss off the muslims again? You got to tread lightly around those bastards. No telling how the practitioners of the religion of peace are going to react to something that offends them.
Belieber
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False. Absolutely, unequivocally false. Typical liberal, always have to blame republicans, even if it means lying.
Regarding and regardless of your sarcasm why the fuck are we over there kicking a hornets nest? Seriously, the WTC bombings, x number of other terrorist events are all about one thing; getting our imperialist asses the hell out of their face. That is what they want, what all humans want, to be left the fuck alone.
Our solution to our stupidity is more interference? More force and bombings, more intrusion and indiscriminate killings? Bigger and better embassies? Get used to the reaction, shitheads.
We did the same thing here, kicked the tyrannical bullies' asses out of here, and we are still all proud of ourself about it.
Belieber
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Passed by democrats and signed by Obama. And the congressional report said the budget played ZERO role.
You had better put me on ignore and thread ban me, because by the time I'm through with you, you will be nothing but an incoherent babbling troll. Oh wait, you already are.
I provided 3 separate proofs. Article excerpts as well as links. I can print 5000 more if you like. Would that be enough for you or are you just a hack?
And the GOP congressman himself said it did indeed have effect. Pretty funny, the village troll calling an actual poster a troll. How did you say it last time? Irony abounds.
Belieber
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What are you, 12 years old?
Belieber
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That would still make me more mature than you. What post is your so called proof in? Why do you deny democrats in the Senate passed a bill with $270 million less than Obama asked for?
FACTS are such a bitch to pinheads....so we post again and again...as many times as necessary...
fact,
the Congressional Research Service has documented that Congress, whether led by Democrats and Republicans, year after year did not fully fund the various pots of money for embassy security. (See page 25.) The State Department, for instance, was shortchanged by $142 million in fiscal year 2010, when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
fact,
while Boxer claims that Republicans “cut” the budget, she is only comparing it to what the Obama administration proposed. The reality is that funding for embassy security has increased significantly in recent years.
fact,
State Department officials were specifically asked if a lack of financial resources played a role in the attack. The answer was no.
Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.
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QUESTION: So there's not a budget problem. It's not you all don't have the money to do this?
LAMB: Sir, it's a volatile situation. We will move assets to cover that.
May 8, 2013 hearing:
QUESTION: Mr. Nordstrom, you were on that panel. Do you remember what she [Lamb] said?
REGIONAL SECURITY OFFICER ERIC NORDSTROM: Yes, she said that resources was not an issue. And I think I would also point to the ARB report, if I'm not mistaken, that they talked to our chief financial officer with D.S. [Diplomatic Security], who also said that resources were not an issue.
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pRune ....a proven idiot time and time again, over and over....a true Democrat.
Dear non-thinking hyper partisan morons; in NONE of those cases did Bush or anyone in his administration claim that these attacks were the result of a spontaneous protest due to an offensive American videographer.
I mean really; how pathetic and stupid are you people? Let me answer that; dunces like you are borderline retarded.
Did Bush kill them you fat tub of lying lard?
This sums up the leftist moronic mentality; who gives a fuck. Yay you huh dumbass?
A million plus dead as a result of Bush; it’s official; you’re a fucking retard. Yay you.
You people are beyond merely stupid.
There you have it folks, the irrational retarded hatred of the left. Get used to it; it’s here to stay.
Another lie from the fat tub lying lard.