CIA chief: Waterboarding aided bin Laden raid

Onceler said:
No lies; I know it's probably tough for you to face up to...
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why do you always resort to your childish canned responses? you screwed up and were wrong saying i took a certain position. but instead of just honestly admitting you made a mistake, you have to resort to your usual lies. grow up for pete sakes...aren't you like 50+ years old? we even agree on this position, yet you can't get along with that thought because of your ingrained idiocy and yurt love.
 
Yurt said:
why do you always resort to your childish canned responses? you screwed up and were wrong saying i took a certain position. but instead of just honestly admitting you made a mistake, you have to resort to your usual lies. grow up for pete sakes...aren't you like 50+ years old? we even agree on this position, yet you can't get along with that thought because of your ingrained idiocy and yurt love.
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You were the one who interjected yourself (as usual) w/ your post about my response to DY. As I said - when I have done that in the past, you have taken it as passive agreement to the other poster; in this case, DY, because you clearly had no problem w/ what he's saying.

That's not a lie. It's something you either are aware of, or that you're pathological about and don't know that you do. Still, you don't want to face up to stuff like that, you should show some restraint, and not always interject yourself into a conversation as you did.

You'll continue to, though....
 
1tor·ture noun \ˈtȯr-chər\
Definition of TORTURE
1a : anguish of body or mind : agony b : something that causes agony or pain 2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
3: distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/torture

So are you stating that Waterboarding does not cause agony or pain? Mind you that YOU SAID BY THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD TORTURE-----(not the definition of the word Waterboarding added in 2004)
 
I gotta say as a far lefty anti war nut, I mocked the anti waterboarders from day 1 and must do it today.

Not a peep for all the men with heads and torso's blown off, but a quadruple dose of false outrage for the water gargeling.
 
Onceler said:
So you agree that we should decide interrogation standards using a dictionary?

Good to have you on record.
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Well..... as opposed to deciding interrogation standards based on the pinhead liberal left's viewpoints of what is appropriate and what is not, I think the dictionary might be a far superior choice, to be perfectly honest. All I can say is, thank God liberals weren't setting interrogation policy during the Bush years, or we would have not killed OBL. We would have never gleaned the invaluable information, which led to OBL, if we had followed the liberal ideology and given these people lawyers and US courts of law.... it just wouldn't have happened.
 
Dixie said:
Well..... as opposed to deciding interrogation standards based on the pinhead liberal left's viewpoints of what is appropriate and what is not, I think the dictionary might be a far superior choice, to be perfectly honest. All I can say is, thank God liberals weren't setting interrogation policy during the Bush years, or we would have not killed OBL. We would have never gleaned the invaluable information, which led to OBL, if we had followed the liberal ideology and given these people lawyers and US courts of law.... it just wouldn't have happened.
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The ends never justify the means, unless you have no moral compass. Do you?

And it's ridiculous to state that only the left thinks waterboarding is torture, and shouldn't be practiced.
 
What ever gets you through the night! It was one piece of information, the rest was done with years of intelligence and carefully dogging the carriers! but if you want to believe torture works and are that kind of human, like those in the Taliban, then have it, just keep your inhuman activity out of my country! and think what it will be like for the next US soldier caught and tortured. Remember, we can no longer take the high ground in this matter.
 
Dixie said:
Well..... as opposed to deciding interrogation standards based on the pinhead liberal left's viewpoints of what is appropriate and what is not, I think the dictionary might be a far superior choice, to be perfectly honest. All I can say is, thank God liberals weren't setting interrogation policy during the Bush years, or we would have not killed OBL. We would have never gleaned the invaluable information, which led to OBL, if we had followed the liberal ideology and given these people lawyers and US courts of law.... it just wouldn't have happened.
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what about the standards in treaties and US code?
 
Rana said:
What ever gets you through the night! It was one piece of information, the rest was done with years of intelligence and carefully dogging the carriers! but if you want to believe torture works and are that kind of human, like those in the Taliban, then have it, just keep your inhuman activity out of my country! and think what it will be like for the next US soldier caught and tortured. Remember, we can no longer take the high ground in this matter.
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Nice Chicke Hawk with a moral compass to hell BURN
 
Dixie said:
Well..... as opposed to deciding interrogation standards based on the pinhead liberal left's viewpoints of what is appropriate and what is not, I think the dictionary might be a far superior choice, to be perfectly honest. All I can say is, thank God liberals weren't setting interrogation policy during the Bush years, or we would have not killed OBL. We would have never gleaned the invaluable information, which led to OBL, if we had followed the liberal ideology and given these people lawyers and US courts of law.... it just wouldn't have happened.
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And your basis for saying that is . . . exactly nothing. I believe this falls into the unknowable unknown in Rumsfeld's rubric. We do know that we gained much of the valuable information that led to OBL without resorting to torture and instead employing standard investigatory methods (at least according to (many versions of) the official account).
 
b : something that causes agony or pain
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I had a bad tooth pulled by a dentist one time and cause a lot of pain and agony. Did he torture me? Of course not. The definition in this context is: "2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure ".

Since waterboarding does not cause pain as from burning, crushing, or wounding, it is not torture.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I had a bad tooth pulled by a dentist one time and cause a lot of pain and agony. Did he torture me? Of course not. The definition in this context is: "2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure ".

Since waterboarding does not cause pain as from burning, crushing, or wounding, it is not torture.
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Why'd you just go w/ b?

This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen on the board, btw. Just sayin'....
 
Onceler said:
Why'd you just go w/ b?

This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen on the board, btw. Just sayin'....
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Did you really expect him to come up with something intelligent. I would send him to the dentist in "Little Shop of Horrors"
 
Damn Yankee said:
I had a bad tooth pulled by a dentist one time and cause a lot of pain and agony. Did he torture me? Of course not. The definition in this context is: "2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure ".

Since waterboarding does not cause pain as from burning, crushing, or wounding, it is not torture.
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You went to the dentist of your own free will. He didn't haul you in off the street and pull a tooth without your consent.
 
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