CIA just offered their ENTIRE workforce the option to quit in exchange for eight months’ pay.

[T. A. Gardner]

At worst, the US will not have the capability to discover terrorist plots before the happen in the US or abroad. Welcome to 100 different 9/11's because we no longer have the people that help prevent those attacks.

Sure the US would. The NSA is still there. The FBI is still there. The various defense intelligence agencies are still intact. The original purpose of the CIA was not so much to spy or whatever, but to be the collector of intelligence from other various agencies and sources within the US government who would then collate all of it into an overall picture of what was going on. Diminished, it might get back to its intended role rather than being the be-all, end-all of spying.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Did the CIA prevent the 9/11 attacks?


The official record and numerous investigations, including the 9/11 Commission Report, suggest that the CIA, along with other U.S. intelligence agencies, did not prevent the 9/11 attacks. Here's a breakdown of the context:

1. Intelligence Failures: The 9/11 Commission found multiple intelligence failures across various agencies, including the CIA. There were issues with information sharing, analysis, and action based on the intelligence they had. For example:
   • The CIA had information about two of the hijackers, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, but did not adequately track them or inform the FBI until late in the game.
   • There was a lack of coordination between the CIA and the FBI, which would have been crucial for connecting dots regarding the plot.
2. Operational Oversights: The CIA was aware of al-Qaeda's intentions to attack the U.S., but the specifics, timing, and methods were not known or anticipated with enough clarity to act preventatively.
3. Post-9/11 Actions: After the attacks, there were significant changes in how intelligence was gathered, shared, and acted upon, leading to the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence, aiming to prevent such lapses in the future.

To answer your question directly based on the established public record:

• No, the CIA did not prevent the 9/11 attacks due to a variety of intelligence and operational failures.

@Grok

Has the CIA prevented terrorist attacks?
Yes, the CIA has been involved in preventing numerous terrorist attacks. Here are some ways they have contributed:

1. Intelligence Gathering: The CIA's primary role involves collecting intelligence from around the world. This intelligence has been crucial in identifying and disrupting terrorist plots. For example, their work has been vital in gathering information on groups like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and others.
2. Counterterrorism Operations: Through various operations, the CIA has worked to dismantle terrorist networks. Operations like drone strikes, which target high-level terrorists, have been part of this effort.
3. Collaboration with Other Agencies: The CIA collaborates with other U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies, like the FBI, NSA, and Department of Homeland Security, to share intelligence and coordinate efforts. This synergy has been pivotal in stopping attacks planned both abroad and within the U.S.
4. Disruption of Funding: The CIA has also worked to cut off financial support to terrorist organizations, making it harder for them to execute large-scale attacks.
5. Specific Cases:
   • Post-9/11: Following the September 11 attacks, the CIA's intelligence operations significantly ramped up, leading to numerous thwarted attacks, both at home and abroad.
   • Operation Neptune Spear: Though primarily known for the killing of Osama bin Laden, this operation also involved intelligence that prevented further attacks by dismantling parts of Al-Qaeda's leadership.

@Grok

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Sure the US would. The NSA is still there. The FBI is still there. The various defense intelligence agencies are still intact. The original purpose of the CIA was not so much to spy or whatever, but to be the collector of intelligence from other various agencies and sources within the US government who would then collate all of it into an overall picture of what was going on. Diminished, it might get back to its intended role rather than being the be-all, end-all of spying.

We would have reduced our capacity to prevent planning overseas for terrorist attacks. The NSA doesn't have any assets in the field to my knowledge. They just collect and interpret communications.

 

[BartenderElite]

Sure the US would. The NSA is still there. The FBI is still there. The various defense intelligence agencies are still intact. The original purpose of the CIA was not so much to spy or whatever, but to be the collector of intelligence from other various agencies and sources within the US government who would then collate all of it into an overall picture of what was going on. Diminished, it might get back to its intended role rather than being the be-all, end-all of spying.

We're losing resources that help keep America safe - in both the CIA and FBI.

There is no sugarcoating that.

 

[EdwinA]

If Guano opposes it, that means it's good, right?

Yes. Unless he/she/it/mutant is smoking that Hezbollah hashish from Lebanon, anyway, then it might forget and say something out of character for a piece of Muslim dogshit.

 

[Diogenes]

We're losing resources that help keep America safe - in both the CIA and FBI.

There is no sugarcoating that.

 

[Diogenes]

We would have reduced our capacity to prevent planning overseas for terrorist attacks. The NSA doesn't have any assets in the field to my knowledge. They just collect and interpret communications.

 

[EdwinA]

We're losing resources that help keep America safe - in both the CIA and FBI.

There is no sugarcoating that.

You mean Democrat criminals are losing valuable fifth columnist insiders they need to overthrow the U.S. govt.

 

[Diogenes]

Has the CIA prevented terrorist attacks?
Yes, the CIA has been involved in preventing numerous terrorist attacks. Here are some ways they have contributed:

1. Intelligence Gathering: The CIA's primary role involves collecting intelligence from around the world. This intelligence has been crucial in identifying and disrupting terrorist plots. For example, their work has been vital in gathering information on groups like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and others.
2. Counterterrorism Operations: Through various operations, the CIA has worked to dismantle terrorist networks. Operations like drone strikes, which target high-level terrorists, have been part of this effort.
3. Collaboration with Other Agencies: The CIA collaborates with other U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies, like the FBI, NSA, and Department of Homeland Security, to share intelligence and coordinate efforts. This synergy has been pivotal in stopping attacks planned both abroad and within the U.S.
4. Disruption of Funding: The CIA has also worked to cut off financial support to terrorist organizations, making it harder for them to execute large-scale attacks.
5. Specific Cases:
   • Post-9/11: Following the September 11 attacks, the CIA's intelligence operations significantly ramped up, leading to numerous thwarted attacks, both at home and abroad.
   • Operation Neptune Spear: Though primarily known for the killing of Osama bin Laden, this operation also involved intelligence that prevented further attacks by dismantling parts of Al-Qaeda's leadership.

@Grok

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Hey, Diogenes. Thanks for all the up votes by quoting me repeatedly with no comment.

 

[Nordberg]

Lots of suppositions and presumptions in your post, Nerdsperg.

I want a foreign intelligence service that's effective.

The one we have now doesn't appear to be.

New blood is needed.

So you are not aware that most military and police are Republicans? Trump wants them replaced with people who follow only his orders. Last time he fired many heads of agencies and the military who were staunch lifetime Repubs. Trump is against that party too. He wants total control.
New blood is not needed. They are doing their jobs.

 

[Diogenes]

So you are not aware that most military and police are Republicans? Trump wants them replaced with people who follow only his orders. Last time he fired many heads of agencies and the military who were staunch lifetime Repubs. Trump is against that party too. He wants total control.
New blood is not needed. They are doing their jobs.