Civil War

[Tobytone]

lol idiots agree ... what a surprise. Did you get the new secret handshake and sensible shoes?

Oh boy, do I have myself a new pet now? LOL Come on boy, follow along behind me like a good little libtard.

 

[Tobytone]

The Al Gore planetary doom date ... has already passed ... without any changes having occurred.


Well, you know that THE THREAT is real, and is confirmed by THE DATA. That'll teach me to trust physics and math; they all say that this Global Warming crap is not possible. What do they know, right?

... nor of "sea level rise" ... buying up prime beachfront real estate.

I remember all of these as well.

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[Bai Lan]

Corporations are not fascism. Redefinition fallacy.

Monopolies are not free markets. Redefinition fallacy.

The free market is immortal. It can't be killed. Not even by the most oppressive of governments.

Go learn English.

corporations are part of the definition of fascism.

 

[Bai Lan]

They didn't. They created literally thousands of jobs.

They didn't use armies.

Nope. They were a lot cheaper now (other than the government built ones!).

Nope. No 'giant' subsidies at all..

No free land.

No free mineral rights.

There was some bribery, but not enough to change anything significant.

BULLSHIT! They lowered the cost of producing steel until it was commonplace!

Morgan didn't build railroads. Mostly they were built by the government, but couldn't make a profit. He did reorganize several of them to make them profitable for the first time by buying the loser railroads from the government and reorganizing them!

Not under Morgan. Under government management.

Carnegie lowered the cost of steel immensely, making the metal commonplace.

Tariffs are not economy. They are a tax.

Don't try class warfare with me!

Don't try class warfare with me!

Keep what fueled? Are you suggesting someone was burning immigrants?

Nothing to do with the so-called 'robber barons'.

War doesn't create any useful product. It creates demand for destruction. It is costly. Don't try class warfare with me!

FDR converted a stock market downturn into an economic depression that lasted for well into the 1950's.

Now you are just griping in general. Lame.

Under the direction of Carnagie.

Nothing was stolen, Edwina. Britain used coal, so did we. Meh.

You seem to dislike the game of golf. The last thing Carnagie was was lazy.

Nope. Carnagie and Morgan. Those engineers worked for Carnagie and Morgan.

The economy wildly benefited from their contribution to it!

* Far cheaper steel.
* Railroad expansion and profitability.
* The creation of advanced banking services (including business loans).

No, I won't let you get away with pushing the 'robber baron' narrative.

yes.
we know.

you suck oligarch pole.

 

[Bai Lan]

The federal government does not subsidize overseas production, Edwina.

WTF is a 'labor racketeer'???

of course it does.

 

[Bai Lan]

Another fantasist completely oblivious to reality and just parroting fake tales. There are no free markets', and most regulations evolved from merchants and businessmen themselves, seeking legal protections from each other's predatory amorality. Jefferson wanted the nation's capital out of New York City for the every good reason that the merchants were corrupt and would soon dominate the govt., which they eventually did.

Singapore does well precisely because it avoids libertarian bullshit and corruption; it is dominated by a few families who have a very low tolerance for corrupt business practices..

Lee Kuan Yew - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Very un -American ...

SWitzerland was always a haven for stashing stolen money and fencing stolen goods. It's 'economy' is built on that; it is able to survive because it is easily defended from invasion, not because it's such a bastion of 'free markets'.

'False dichotomy' my ass .. all banks and Wall Street sells is debt; it produces nothing else. They eventually strangle everything they touch to death. The history is there for anybody to study.

Yes, the data does indeed speak for itself. Financial sectors do not reward meritocracy and hard work, they just bleed it dry. Your claim they don't get bailed out and rescued is some hilarious cartoon stuff. 'Too Big To Fail' is a real thing with your big financial behemoths.

neocons have become retarded fascists.

so have libertarians.

 

[Bai Lan]

Another fantasist completely oblivious to reality and just parroting fake tales. There are no free markets', and most regulations evolved from merchants and businessmen themselves, seeking legal protections from each other's predatory amorality. Jefferson wanted the nation's capital out of New York City for the every good reason that the merchants were corrupt and would soon dominate the govt., which they eventually did.

Singapore does well precisely because it avoids libertarian bullshit and corruption; it is dominated by a few families who have a very low tolerance for corrupt business practices..

Lee Kuan Yew - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Very un -American ...

SWitzerland was always a haven for stashing stolen money and fencing stolen goods. It's 'economy' is built on that; it is able to survive because it is easily defended from invasion, not because it's such a bastion of 'free markets'.

'False dichotomy' my ass .. all banks and Wall Street sells is debt; it produces nothing else. They eventually strangle everything they touch to death. The history is there for anybody to study.

Yes, the data does indeed speak for itself. Financial sectors do not reward meritocracy and hard work, they just bleed it dry. Your claim they don't get bailed out and rescued is some hilarious cartoon stuff. 'Too Big To Fail' is a real thing with your big financial behemoths.

The Globalizer Who Came In From the Cold Joe Stiglitz: Today's Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics​

• by Greg Palast
• October 10, 2001

The World Bank’s former Chief Economist’s accusations are eye-popping – including how the IMF and US Treasury fixed the Russian elections
“It has condemned people to death,” the former apparatchik told me. This was like a scene out of Le Carre. The brilliant old agent comes in from the cold, crosses to our side, and in hours of debriefing, empties his memory of horrors committed in the name of a political ideology he now realizes has gone rotten.
And here before me was a far bigger catch than some used Cold War spy. Joseph Stiglitz was Chief Economist of the World Bank. To a great extent, the new world economic order was his theory come to life.
I “debriefed” Stigltiz over several days, at Cambridge University, in a London hotel and finally in Washington in April 2001 during the big confab of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. But instead of chairing the meetings of ministers and central bankers, Stiglitz was kept exiled safely behind the blue police cordons, the same as the nuns carrying a large wooden cross, the Bolivian union leaders, the parents of AIDS victims and the other ‘anti-globalization’ protesters. The ultimate insider was now on the outside.
In 1999 the World Bank fired Stiglitz. He was not allowed quiet retirement; US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, I’m told, demanded a public excommunication for Stiglitz’ having expressed his first mild dissent from globalization World Bank style.
Here in Washington we completed the last of several hours of exclusive interviews for The Observer and BBC TV’s Newsnight about the real, often hidden, workings of the IMF, World Bank, and the bank’s 51% owner, the US Treasury.
And here, from sources unnamable (not Stiglitz), we obtained a cache of documents marked, “confidential,” “restricted,” and “not otherwise (to be) disclosed without World Bank authorization.”
Stiglitz helped translate one from bureaucratise, a “Country Assistance Strategy.” There’s an Assistance Strategy for every poorer nation, designed, says the World Bank, after careful in-country investigation. But according to insider Stiglitz, the Bank’s staff ‘investigation’ consists of close inspection of a nation’s 5-star hotels. It concludes with the Bank staff meeting some begging, busted finance minister who is handed a ‘restructuring agreement’ pre-drafted for his ‘voluntary’ signature (I have a selection of these).

The Globalizer Who Came In From the Cold Joe Stiglitz: Today's Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics - Greg Palast

Greg Palast at the IMF Ministerial in Washington

www.gregpalast.com

 

[Into the Night]

corporations are part of the definition of fascism.

Corporations are not fascism. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

yes.
we know.

you suck oligarch pole.

I am not an oligarch. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

of course it does.

Go learn what 'subsidy' means. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

neocons have become retarded fascists.

so have libertarians.

Neocon isn't a word. A political party is not an economic system. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

The Globalizer Who Came In From the Cold Joe Stiglitz: Today's Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics​

• by Greg Palast
• October 10, 2001

Economy is not a prize nor a magazine article. Go learn English.

 

[ZenMode]

I remember all of these as well.

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There's a difference between what the media reports regarding Climate Change and what is actually believed by the science community in regard to climate change.

For example....

The media, Al Gore, fear mongers, etc cherry picked one climate model that showed the most extreme temperature increases to focus on. That was the one where all the glaciers melt, and the coasts are under 20 feet of water, etc. The most extreme was one of many models, but not the one that was most likely to happen and, as expected, didn't happen. What has happened, as it relates to temperatures predictions, is that the more moderate predictions models have proven to be true.

So, don't listen to the media and don't listen to yahoos on Twitter.

 

[Bai Lan]

Neocon isn't a word. A political party is not an economic system. Go learn English.

Economy is not a prize nor a magazine article. Go learn English.

your dumb shit is played out.

you're a neocon fascist dipshit.

you fell out of the nineties and are still just as stupid.

 

[Into the Night]

There's a difference between what the media reports regarding Climate Change and what is actually believed by the science community in regard to climate change.

Science isn't a community. YOU are still ignoring theories of science. Climate cannot change.

For example....

The media, Al Gore, fear mongers, etc cherry picked one climate model that showed the most extreme temperature increases to focus on.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth, Void.

That was the one where all the glaciers melt, and the coasts are under 20 feet of water, etc. The most extreme was one of many models, but not the one that was most likely to happen and, as expected, didn't happen. What has happened, as it relates to temperatures predictions, is that the more moderate predictions models have proven to be true.

So, don't listen to the media and don't listen to yahoos on Twitter.

Climate cannot change. Climate has no temperature. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

 

[Into the Night]

your dumb shit is played out.

you're a neocon fascist dipshit.

you fell out of the nineties and are still just as stupid.

Necon isn't a word. Capitalism isn't fascism or any other type of socialism. The decade of the 90's is not an altitude.

Go learn English.

 

[ZenMode]

Science isn't a community.

"Science community" is a commonly understood term, unless you're a word-game playing troll who loves to play dumb.

YOU are still ignoring theories of science.

Nope.

Climate cannot change.

The individual characteristics that make up climate can change. Again, you know this, but insist on playing dumb.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth, Void.

Opinion presented as fact.

Climate cannot change.

The individual characteristics that make up climate can. Intelligent people know what is meant when saying "Climate change". Intelligent people also don't play dumb word games and troll internet forums.

Climate has no temperature.

Temperature is a characteristic of climate.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Opinion stated as fact.

You cannot create energy out of nothing.

Agree. That is wholly unrelated to climate change, but ok....

You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

Nope. You don't under stand Climate Change. If you did, you'd know that the increase in temperature doesn't require creating energy.

 

[Bai Lan]

I am not an oligarch. Go learn English.

i said you suck oligarch pole.

that's not "being an oligarch".

 

[Bai Lan]

Necon isn't a word. Capitalism isn't fascism or any other type of socialism. The decade of the 90's is not an altitude.

Go learn English.

your technique of obfuscation and destroying communication shows you know your points are weak.

 

[EdwinA]

neocons have become retarded fascists.

so have libertarians.

They always have been. What's hilarious is the billionaires who own the Libertoon Party routinely use imminent domain to steal lands for their pipelines, then when they leak due to cheap shoddy construction, run and hide behind Federal courts to protect them from their victims. Frauds and phonies, all of them.