Climate change follies: Wet denials

Well, with the exception of the parts that were ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS OF TEMPERATURE on the graph.
It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
But it was a science graph
Science is not a graph.
so you probably got overwhelmed pretty quickly. Don't worry, no one expects you to know how to read a graph.
A graph of random numbers means nothing.
Argument from randU fallacy.
 
Honestly are you this stupid or do you just play it up on this forum for giggles?
You are describing yourself again. Learn what 'climate' means. Climate cannot change. There is no such thing as a global climate.
Again, if you actually read my post you'd see I was talking about the midwestern states. But you can't read so good so I can see how you'd be confused.
You are describing yourself again. You cannot blame your problems on me or anyone else.
 
Wrong. But hey you go ahead and have a heaping bowl of ADM soy products for dinner tonight. The rest of us will attempt to add actual vegetables.
I grow my own. I don't use any vegetables from the SDTC, since so little is produced anymore. You'll probably import yours from Mexico.
 
I grow my own. I don't use any vegetables from the SDTC, since so little is produced anymore. You'll probably import yours from Mexico.

No, like most americans the majority of my table vegetables like lettuce etc come from the Central Valley.

Kudos for you to know how to grow vegetables...given your level of intellect expressed on this forum I am frankly surprised you know how to use a hoe.
 
Blah blah blah. All you need to do to debate against my point is to prove that SoCal doesn't get a large amount of its water from the Sierra Snowpack. Instead now you are going to go on and on about what "cultists"do rather than actually make a point.



Other than the fact that I lived there for many many years.



GIven that you have an astoundingly poor understanding of California geography I'm going to guess you don't know much about its hydrology.
There isn't much of it, since the SDTC has been dismantling it's water collection systems.
 
But you think the claim is in error. So support your position. Don't just come on here and scream insults at me. Debate the point or STFU.
He already supported his position. RQAA.

The Santa Ana has headwaters in the San Bernardino Mts so it's coming from highlands and probably precipitation in said highlands (eg snowpack).
Mostly rain...little snowpack.

And those are probably recharged from the same watershed. Ie the mtns.



Doesn't seem like you really know where your water comes from.
His water??? You think he owns it???
If you live in the LA region, how could you not know the difference between the Centra Valley and the Imperial Valley?
Both are devastated, due to the effects of Democrats and King Newsom.
 
No, like most americans the majority of my table vegetables like lettuce etc come from the Central Valley.
Most lettuce is not grown in the Central Valley. Most lettuce is locally produced.

Illiteracy:
Proper nouns are always capitalized.
Contractions used as a list item uses periods.
 
Well, let's start with calling bullshit on the "unprecedented" natural weather occurrences. For example, the state hit hardest by "dry spells" was and is California, a blue state that has completely mismanaged their water supplies. That's a disaster of the Progressive Left's / Democrat's making there. Nevada and Arizona, next door, managed their water supplies much better through the latest drought period.

As for things like hurricanes, floods, and tornados, insurers simply dumped the costs of these on FEMA because they can't break even on them and sell reasonable policies. FEMA on the other hand, can use extortion of taxpayer money from those unaffected--the vast majority of Americans--to pay idiots for living in a doublewide trailer in the middle of a zone that's likely to have a weather-related disaster.

If you build in a flood plain, that's on you and you should have to shoulder the cost of making that idiotic choice. If you live where hurricanes occur, and don't hurricane proof your home, that's on you. That goes for anyone in any state, red or blue.

So, what you pose in the above is really just an idiotic complex question fallacy.

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Once again, you keep trying to pass off your personal opinion, supposition and conjecture as "fact". Then you stupidly follow up that other MAGA moron with the "fallacy" squawking.

Your BS was put to rest YEARS ago. Here's what you can continue to ignore or try and cherry pick/out of context quote to fit your mantra:

7 Answers to Climate Contrarian Nonsense​

Evidence for human interference with Earth’s climate continues to accumulate
BY JOHN RENNIE
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/7-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense/

Bottom line: ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION! Will all the red states who are catching ecological hell turn down federal assistance in accordance with their anti federal gov't "deep state" rhetoric?
 
I answered the OP, and even now did so in a direct manner.

I have every right to ask questions. There's a good reason why liberals get mad when I start asking questions.

What would Jesus do?

:npcmad:

^^^^ That's YOU, good buddy! :smile:
Once again, you've proven yourself to be nothing but a MAGA troll. The rational, objective and mature reader can follow the chronology of the posts and see your folly. Once I reduce you to this silly repetitive, inane gain saying I just leave you to your babbling and move on .... assured that you'll follow my posts and threads like a bitch in heat craving attention.
 
Probably about as quickly as you would forego the massive amount of food you get from the Central Valley of the Communist State of California.

That's the problem really. If we don't do something we actually face the collapse of several key agricultural areas like the Central Valley (bad place too put so much of our agriculture) but even you folks in the "Flyover Country" are going to suffer as plant hardiness zones move northward (as they've been shown to be doing due to climate change).

If the denialists keep us from taking action to try to fix this problem and if they keep it up long enough it will be too late. Then you can import your grain and cereal goods from Canada. You're welcome.
good luck trying to get a rational, fact based answer. You'll note he avoids the core of my question for his detour. Once you follow him down that rabbit hole, it's like banging your head against a wall ... it feels so good when you stop.
 
Sure, once the corrupt socialist deep state federal government stops taking my tax dollars for it.

Will you forgo shipments of food, water, electricity, etc. from the "honest, capitalist MAGA-loving flyover country that you hate so much? :thinking:
 
I love this kind of reasoning because it is basically showing its own ignorance.

Yes the planet's climate has changed in the past. We know this because of paleoclimatological studies. And we know it was all natural forcings which caused it which allows us to understand how natural forcings work.

So when the natural forcings DON'T line up with the climate change it means SOMETHING ELSE is in play. And guess what makes the data fit best? Yeah, including the NEW FORCINGS of human activities.

It's almost like science actually works! And climate change due to humans is REAL

I'll just leave this here for you to chew on:

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When the deniers start hauling out the Big Oil charts and studies, I just ask them this simple question: Are they saying that over 230 years of global deforestation and urbanization has NO EFFECT on the global climate? If they say yes, then they've obviously never experienced or heard of "smog" in California.
 
Once again, you keep trying to pass off your personal opinion, supposition and conjecture as "fact". Then you stupidly follow up that other MAGA moron with the "fallacy" squawking.

Your BS was put to rest YEARS ago. Here's what you can continue to ignore or try and cherry pick/out of context quote to fit your mantra:

7 Answers to Climate Contrarian Nonsense​

Evidence for human interference with Earth’s climate continues to accumulate
BY JOHN RENNIE
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/7-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense/

Bottom line: ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION! Will all the red states who are catching ecological hell turn down federal assistance in accordance with their anti federal gov't "deep state" rhetoric?
On the subject of climate change Scientific American is fully invested into the propaganda of the Left.






Essentially, Scientific American--to which I subscribe, so you may not be able to see all the links--is fully into propagandizing and gaslighting climate change on a regular basis. Many of their articles on this suggest readers use logical fallacies and various propaganda methods to convince others that Gorebal Warming is real and an immediate threat.
 
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