Climate models underestimate cooling effect of daily cloud cycle

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New paper in Nature Communications about how little account is taken of cloud cover, hardly news to those in the know.

Princeton University researchers have found that the climate models scientists use to project future conditions on our planet underestimate the cooling effect that clouds have on a daily—and even hourly—basis, particularly over land.
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https://m.phys.org/news/2018-01-spotty-coverage-climate-underestimate-cooling.html

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Like you said, this is old news for skeptics. I don't expect the climate cult to change anything. This wasn't something they failed to consider, they chose to poorly model the clouds.
 
tinfoil said:
Like you said, this is old news for skeptics. I don't expect the climate cult to change anything. This wasn't something they failed to consider, they chose to poorly model the clouds.
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Yep, last time I checked NASA's site ... it just said the impact of clouds is poorly understood. And the Al Gorians just fudge the data to fit their doomsday narrative ... and pretend it's an EXACT, COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD, unquestionable science.

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Bigdog said:
Last time I looked, clouds were estimated to be about 60% of the Climate equation.

That's a yuuuge number to be fudging. :palm:
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McSquawker said before that he wouldn't trust anything unless it was in Nature or Science. So I post a paper from Nature and the little shit still runs and hides.
 
Havana Moon said:
New paper in Nature Communications about how little account is taken of cloud cover, hardly news to those in the know.



https://m.phys.org/news/2018-01-spotty-coverage-climate-underestimate-cooling.html

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And now for the part left out, "The researchers found that inaccuracies in accounting for the diurnal, or daily, cloud cycle did not seem to invalidate climate projections," meaning at best it is adding another variable but not negating the fact of climate change.

The periodical it is published (Nature Communications) is an open vehicle for anyone to publish, meaning any doctoral student with a thesis has a means to publish his work. Without some collaborating source how does anyone know that it is anything beyond the work of the two individuals who had it published, and don't try to tell us you are a climate scientist who comprehends all the details involved
 
archives said:
And now for the part left out, "The researchers found that inaccuracies in accounting for the diurnal, or daily, cloud cycle did not seem to invalidate climate projections," meaning at best it is adding another variable but not negating the fact of climate change.

The periodical it is published (Nature Communications) is an open vehicle for anyone to publish, meaning any doctoral student with a thesis has a means to publish his work. Without some collaborating source how does anyone know that it is anything beyond the work of the two individuals who had it published, and don't try to tell us you are a climate scientist who comprehends all the details involved
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I know a hell of a lot more than you, me old china!! There are many sources saying much the same thing, they are covering themselves in classic time honoured fashion.

Climate models take precious little account of the effects of cosmic rays, solar winds or aerosols on cloud formation, the Sun's magnetosphere or indeed solar variability in general. If you were anything other than an alarmist, who is impervious to new empirical data, then you'd acknowledge that. I also deplore the way that the media, politicians and eco-warriors have attempted to commandeer climate science, sadly you are doing much the same.

https://www.nature.com/news/cloud-seeding-surprise-could-improve-climate-predictions-1.19971

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s/news-story/ecff81870e18ea3c6fb4b9aad1a48acf
 
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