Colorado Springs - What Republicans Want for the Country

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Good luck to the residents of Colorado Springs. This is basically what Republicans want for the entirety of the United States:

COLORADO SPRINGS — This tax-averse city is about to learn what it looks and feels like when budget cuts slash services most Americans consider part of the urban fabric.

More than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark Monday. The police helicopters are for sale on the Internet. The city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops — dozens of police and fire positions will go unfilled.

The parks department removed trash cans last week, replacing them with signs urging users to pack out their own litter.

Neighbors are encouraged to bring their own lawn mowers to local green spaces, because parks workers will mow them only once every two weeks. If that.

Water cutbacks mean most parks will be dead, brown turf by July; the flower and fertilizer budget is zero.

City recreation centers, indoor and outdoor pools, and a handful of museums will close for good March 31 unless they find private funding to stay open. Buses no longer run on evenings and weekends. The city won't pay for any street paving, relying instead on a regional authority that can meet only about 10 percent of the need.

"I guess we're going to find out what the tolerance level is for people," said businessman Chuck Fowler, who is helping lead a private task force brainstorming for city budget fixes. "It's a new day."

Some residents are less sanguine, arguing that cuts to bus services, drug enforcement and treatment and job development are attacks on basic needs for the working class.

"How are people supposed to live? We're not a 'Mayberry R.F.D.' anymore," said Addy Hansen, a criminal justice student who has spoken out about safety cuts. "We're the second-largest city, and growing, in Colorado. We're in trouble. We're in big trouble."

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Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eIfi7RrY
 
screw families who need to make bills superfreak, the greater good of the collective is far more important.
 
http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-1...diaries-projected-25-billion-deficit-for-2010

So as opposed to a low tax environment facing budget shortfalls, Democrats would rather us face insanely high taxes coupled with those same budget shortfalls.

Great point Nigelhackster!!!!!!
That's a strawman. Insanely high taxes is just hyperbole on your part. We have historically low tax levels in the US and when low taxes cause spending cuts it is the programs that impact the poor and working classes (not the wealthy) that are the first to be cut. The author of the article is essentially correct. How low are they willing to go with out basic services? As is typical in these cases, it will take some sort of disaster, exploding crime rates, streets filled with trash or mass public school closings before changes are made but then again, these are the kinds of services your typical libertarian feels government has no business serving, that is until it affects them.
 
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So you've got nothing to say on the Colorado Springs experiment? I thought you would applaud it. Instead you point to California and its Republican governors for 23 of the last 27 years as some sort of Democratic paradise?

Nice deflection.

you hack, who has controlled the legislature :pke:
 
let's see the rest of the article that the dishonest hack poopheap conveniently left out:

Colorado Springs' woes are more visceral versions of local and state cuts across the nation. Denver has cut salaries and human services workers, trimmed library hours and raised fees; Aurora shuttered four libraries; the state budget has seen round after round of wholesale cuts in education and personnel.

The deep recession bit into Colorado Springs sales-tax collections, while pension and health care costs for city employees continued to soar. Sales-tax updates have become a regular exercise in flinching for Mayor Lionel Rivera.


Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJ1BfMVl


oh, this is happening all across the board, not just this one city as the dishonest hack nigel would have you believe....further:

Community business leaders have jumped into the budget debate, some questioning city spending on what they see as "Ferrari"-level benefits for employees and high salaries in middle management. Broadmoor luxury resort chief executive Steve Bartolin wrote an open letter asking why the city spends $89,000 per employee, when his enterprise has a similar number of workers and spends only $24,000 on each.

"There's a lot of anger, a lot of frustration about how governments spend their money," Rivera said. "It's not unique to Colorado Springs."


Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJ1oR6rG


once again, nigel is dishonest
 
"once again, nigel is dishonest "

Are you really one to be throwing stones on that one, Mr. glass house?

stfu you dishonest hack. i didn't think you had anything to offer in this thread, and you certaintly didn't disappoint. i am not dishonest like you. you need to get out of your delusional world and back into reality.

:)
 
let's see the rest of the article that the dishonest hack poopheap conveniently left out:




Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJ1BfMVl


oh, this is happening all across the board, not just this one city as the dishonest hack nigel would have you believe....further:



Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJ1oR6rG


once again, nigel is dishonest


So I'm dishonest for posting a link to the article where all of the above information is easily ascertainable? Did you post the entirety of the article or did you leave out a few things?

You're a major douchebag, counselor.
 
Here is some more information that the dishonest counselor left out of his post:

But the 2010 spending choices are complete, and local residents and businesses are preparing for a slew of changes:

• The steep parks and recreation cuts mean a radical reshifting of resources from more than 100 neighborhood parks to a few popular regional parks. The city cut watering drastically in 2009 but "got lucky" with weekly summer rains, said parks maintenance manager Kurt Schroeder.

With even more watering cuts, "if we repeat the weather of 2008, we're at risk of losing every bit of turf we have in our neighborhood parks," Schroeder said. Six city greenhouses are shut down. The city spent $19.6 million on parks in 2007; this year it will spend $3.1 million.

"If a playground burns down, I can't replace it," Schroeder said. Park fans' only hope is the possibility of a new ballot tax pledged to recreation spending that might win over skeptical voters.

• Community center and pool closures have parents worried about day-care costs, idle teenagers and shut-in grandparents with nowhere to go.

Hillside Community Center, on the southeastern edge of downtown Colorado Springs in a low- to moderate-income neighborhood, is scrambling to find private partners to stay open. Moms such as Kirsten Williams doubt they can replace Hillside's dedicated staff and preschool rates of $200 for six-week sessions.

"It's affordable, the program is phenomenal, and the staff all grew up here," Williams said. "You can't re-create that kind of magic."

Shutting down youth services is shortsighted, she argues. "You're going to pay now, or you're going to pay later. There's trouble if kids don't have things to do."

• Though officials and citizens put public safety above all in the budget, police and firefighting still lost more than $5.5 million this year. Positions that will go empty range from a domestic violence specialist to a deputy chief to juvenile offender officers. Fire squad 108 loses three firefighters. Putting the helicopters up for sale and eliminating the officers and a mechanic banked $877,000.

• Tourism outlets have attacked budget choices that hit them precisely as they're struggling to draw choosy visitors to the West.

The city cut three economic-development positions, land-use planning, long-range strategic planning and zoning and neighborhood inspectors. It also repossessed a large portion of a dedicated lodgers and car rental tax rather than transfer it to the visitors' bureau.

"It's going to hurt. If they don't at least market Colorado Springs, it doesn't get the people here," said Nancy Stovall, owner of Pine Creek Art Gallery on the tourism strip of Old Colorado City. Other states, such as New Mexico and Wyoming, will continue to market, and tourism losses will further erode city sales-tax revenue, merchants say.

• Turning out the lights, literally, is one of the high-profile trims aggravating some residents. The city-run Colorado Springs Utilities will shut down 8,000 to 10,000 of more than 24,000 streetlights, to save $1.2 million in energy and bulb replacement.

Hansen, the criminal-justice student, grows especially exasperated when recalling a scary incident a few years ago as she waited for a bus. She said a carload of drunken men approached her until the police helicopter that had been trailing them turned a spotlight on the men and chased them off. Now the helicopter is gone, and the streetlight she was waiting under is threatened as well.

"I don't know a person in this city who doesn't think that's just the stupidest thing on the planet," Hansen said. "Colorado Springs leaders put patches on problems and hope that will handle it."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJ3Ncw79
 
stfu you dishonest hack. i didn't think you had anything to offer in this thread, and you certaintly didn't disappoint. i am not dishonest like you. you need to get out of your delusional world and back into reality.

:)

Such hostility. It's probably your ODS.

You generally lie, and you most certainly lied about what the CBO said.

What does the Washington Times say about Colorado Springs?
 
So I'm dishonest for posting a link to the article where all of the above information is easily ascertainable? Did you post the entirety of the article or did you leave out a few things?

You're a major douchebag, counselor.

you left it out on purpose poop shoveler....you had to link per the rules, so don't hide behind the rules as an excuse for your dishonesty. you purposefully made it appear that this was happening ONLY to this one city with low taxes and this is how every other city will be if they follow republican platforms.....

if you were honest, you would not have claimed this was a result of republican policies, rather, is a systemic problem across the state, including cities that have liberal policies, and country. you lied, hack.
 
you left it out on purpose poop shoveler....you had to link per the rules, so don't hide behind the rules as an excuse for your dishonesty. you purposefully made it appear that this was happening ONLY to this one city with low taxes and this is how every other city will be if they follow republican platforms.....

if you were honest, you would not have claimed this was a result of republican policies, rather, is a systemic problem across the state, including cities that have liberal policies, and country. you lied, hack.


Actually, as the article points out (particularly the parts of it that you refused to post) the city of Colorado Springs is facing unique challenges due to its vehemently tax averse population.
 
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