FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
I don't think anyone knew who she was whenever he appointed her to national security advisor in 2000. By 2004 she was easily the second most widely recongnized cabinet member after Colin.
Condi Rice.... WORST SEC OF STATE EVA!
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I don't think anyone knew who she was whenever he appointed her to national security advisor in 2000. By 2004 she was easily the second most widely recongnized cabinet member after Colin.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Interestingly, Colin and Condi were the only two black Republicans in America at the time.
CanadianKid
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Ya I'm glad you shut ur mouth. Dont try and lecture me on something you dont know about.
I study politics. I study history. I aint a tool like you who just follow blindly what your masters tell you. Maybe if you open your eyes you'll see the real world instead of your American-centric views...
CK
CanadianKid
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Colin had credentials....
Condi was a token....
You know its called honesty.... Just like calling somebody an unfavourable name makes you the target of attacks ..... The truth stands the test of time.
Barack Obama, now look at this guy. You know he graduated Magnum Cum Ladda... He was first Black President of Harvard Law Review... He was a civil rights activist...
You tell me Condi Rice had half the credentials of Barack Obama?
The only difference is Barack was a democrat and there are alot of black democrats...
Condi was a Black Republican and there aint many of those so she gets promoted and moved up....
And what I find cynical about her is she got her professorship through minority affirmative action of professorships at Stanford...
THEN when she became Provost of Stanford she tried to eliminate the program that got her - HER OWN POSITION!!!!
You know you can believe in a colour-blind world... I dont i believe there is racism and injustice.... And i believe that some people got where they were not due to their own abilities...
Take for example President George W Bush...
CK
gonzojournals
Better than You
People seemed to want credentials (not taking either side here, but it isn't like she crawled out from under a rock):
Became interested in Soviet relations after attending a lecture by Josef Korbel (Madeleine Albright's father, for those of you who don't know) at her high school.
Graduated with a BA in political science from the University of Denver-- at the age of 19
The next year (at age 20) she received her Master's Degree (also in political science) from the University of Notre Dame.
She began working at the State Department as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs at the age of 22.
In 1981 (at the age of 26) she received her PhD in political science from the Graduate School of International Studies at Denver. Her dissertation was on military policy/politics in Czechoslovakia.
She was a Democrat until 1982, then switched to the Republican party after disagreeing with some of Jimmy Carter's policies.
She speaks English, Russian, German, French, and Spanish.
Rice was hired by Stanford University as an Assistant Professor in Political Science, then rose through the ranks until she became Full Professor.
She was the first female, minority, and youngest Provost for Stanford University.
She was a specialist on the former Soviet Union and gave lectures on the subject for the Berkeley-Stanford joint program led by UC Berkeley Professor George Breslauer in the mid-1980s.
As Stanford's Provost, Rice was responsible for managing the university's multi-billion dollar budget. The school at that time was running a deficit of $20 million. When Rice took office, she promised that the budget deficit would be balanced within "two years." Coit Blacker, Stanford's deputy director of the Institute for International Studies, said there "was a sort of conventional wisdom that said it couldn't be done ... that [the deficit] was structural, that we just had to live with it." Two years later, Rice announced that the deficit been eliminated and the university was holding a record surplus of over $14.5 million
In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, Rice served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
From 1989 through March 1991 (the period of the fall of Berlin Wall and the final days of the Soviet Union), she served in President George H.W. Bush's administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In this position, Rice helped develop Bush's and Secretary of State James Baker's policies in favor of German reunification. She impressed Bush, who later introduced her to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev as the one who "tells me everything I know about the Soviet Union."
In 1997, she sat on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender-Integrated Training in the Military.
All of that information was gathered in a few minutes from her Wikipedia article and the related sources cited in the article.
So, although I wouldn't say reading the article makes me an expert, I would say that calling her "unqualified" is probably among the most ignorant posts I have seen on this board, not to mention the use of her race as a means of insulting her as some of you see fit.
Became interested in Soviet relations after attending a lecture by Josef Korbel (Madeleine Albright's father, for those of you who don't know) at her high school.
Graduated with a BA in political science from the University of Denver-- at the age of 19
The next year (at age 20) she received her Master's Degree (also in political science) from the University of Notre Dame.
She began working at the State Department as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs at the age of 22.
In 1981 (at the age of 26) she received her PhD in political science from the Graduate School of International Studies at Denver. Her dissertation was on military policy/politics in Czechoslovakia.
She was a Democrat until 1982, then switched to the Republican party after disagreeing with some of Jimmy Carter's policies.
She speaks English, Russian, German, French, and Spanish.
Rice was hired by Stanford University as an Assistant Professor in Political Science, then rose through the ranks until she became Full Professor.
She was the first female, minority, and youngest Provost for Stanford University.
She was a specialist on the former Soviet Union and gave lectures on the subject for the Berkeley-Stanford joint program led by UC Berkeley Professor George Breslauer in the mid-1980s.
As Stanford's Provost, Rice was responsible for managing the university's multi-billion dollar budget. The school at that time was running a deficit of $20 million. When Rice took office, she promised that the budget deficit would be balanced within "two years." Coit Blacker, Stanford's deputy director of the Institute for International Studies, said there "was a sort of conventional wisdom that said it couldn't be done ... that [the deficit] was structural, that we just had to live with it." Two years later, Rice announced that the deficit been eliminated and the university was holding a record surplus of over $14.5 million
In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, Rice served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
From 1989 through March 1991 (the period of the fall of Berlin Wall and the final days of the Soviet Union), she served in President George H.W. Bush's administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In this position, Rice helped develop Bush's and Secretary of State James Baker's policies in favor of German reunification. She impressed Bush, who later introduced her to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev as the one who "tells me everything I know about the Soviet Union."
In 1997, she sat on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender-Integrated Training in the Military.
All of that information was gathered in a few minutes from her Wikipedia article and the related sources cited in the article.
So, although I wouldn't say reading the article makes me an expert, I would say that calling her "unqualified" is probably among the most ignorant posts I have seen on this board, not to mention the use of her race as a means of insulting her as some of you see fit.
CanadianKid
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Im glad you believe the hype....
Condi Rice speaks English and "fluent Russian" ... I'm glad you believe she also speaks German, French and Spanish...
I'd like you to prove that to me. Cause I dont believe it... And certainly the posters on Dailykos all say she can only speak English....
So please tell me when she conversed in any of these other languages...
Show me some proof dont believe the hype.
And the reason why she got professorship was due to minority hiring process....
CK
gonzojournals
Better than You
See, after all of that all you have is some website that says she can't speak Russian, and then you attack her race....what the fuck is wrong with you?
She graduated at FUCKING 19.
She had a Master's Degree at fucking 20.
And all you can do is attack her race....you have clearly been proven wrong.
She graduated at FUCKING 19.
She had a Master's Degree at fucking 20.
And all you can do is attack her race....you have clearly been proven wrong.
CanadianKid
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Your a hack gonzojournals....
First off I went on her wikipedia post .... and her language claims post....
Guess where that was cited from?
Andrew Sullivan ..... LMAO Andrew Sullivan do you know who that guy is ?
Look him up.
Please gonzojournals just because you think your politically correct views are popular doesnt make it any less stupid.
You know a majority of the world thought the earth was flat at one time too.
CK
gonzojournals
Better than You
Yes, I do know who Andrew Sullivan is....I also know that he is fairly well-respected (some of his essays are required reading at university) and a champion of the gay-rights movement (although I doubt you know much about civil liberties).
You can ask Warren, I am just about the last person on Earth that you would call politically correct--- however, your posts are underinformed and absolutely disgusting.
CanadianKid
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And no dont misconstrue my words I aint attacking her race.... Just because your too stupid to see the difference....
What I am saying is that some people are chosen not for their credentials or due to cronyism..
What I am saying is that some people are chosen not for their credentials or due to cronyism..
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
Congratulations on your self righteousness.
gonzojournals
Better than You
I would say that her credentials speak for themselves--- if she were a white man her credentials would be no less impressive.
"Aint", btw, is an excellent way for me to take your posts seriously.
CanadianKid
New member
I can see this is just a high school popularity contest with a bunch of pimple faced college geeks who trying to pretend to act "cool".
Condi Rice would never have been chosen NSA if she was another unknown white guy. Bush would have chosen somebody else. You know thats just honesty. And like I said she was undercredentialed and underqualified for the job and as history has proven I was right.
So you can go with your white moralist PC crowd and try and lecture me, I know I have the facts on my side.
CK
gonzojournals
Better than You
Please tell me how she was under-credentialed...I would very much like to know what about her record is unimpressive. Perhaps you have a Master's Degree at age 20? Perhaps you have achieved some of the accomplishments she has?
All you have is racist anger, internet trollery, and some forum on your side.
Do the world (and probably Canada) a favour and shoot yourself now.
CanadianKid
New member
Liberals give the world progress.... Its conservative hacks like you that set back evolution 20 years...
CK
cawacko
Well-known member
He can't point out what about her record is umimpressive because the strength of it speaks for itself. You don't have to like the job Condi Rice has done but to claim she is unqualified is just reaching at air.
gonzojournals
Better than You
Conservative hacks like me?
Pro-choice (legally, although not religiously--- however, it is the individuals decision)
Pro-gay marriage
Pro-legalisation of marijuana
Support emissions reduction and pollution reduction (even if I am sceptical of global warming)
um...what else? I could go on for a while, but I'm watching TV and I don't want to have to make some long list...
however, I don't see how I am a conservative hack...
Although I did notice that you have called me a conservative hack, a college geek, and a PC liberal all in the same thread.
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
You haven't figured it out yet? CK isn't interested in issues. He's only interested in flaming, getting a rise out of people. This was obvious to me in '04. He's a troll.
gonzojournals
Better than You
If his first name is Christopher then I think I might know him....I knew a guy in Canada named Chris that was about as stupid and prone to trolling as CK is...
Listen the woman was tight with his father and all of his father's friends. To presume that she didn't know W until 1999 is just absolutely retarded. I know my dad's friends, and always have. And W was very active in his father's campaign, it's not like he was off somewhere, he was right there.
This guy is just talking nonsense.